From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #485 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 16 Aug 2001 Vol 08 : Num 485 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Hapkido BOUNCE the_dojang: Admin request the_dojang: RE: Knee blow-out the_dojang: RE: Hapkido the_dojang: Shorin Ryu and Ologapo, PI the_dojang: 18th Western US International the_dojang: epointsystem.com the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Kim" Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:13:20 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Hapkido Hapkido is a Korean martial art. The root of the Hapkido comes with Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. It's one of the most complete martial art that I have seen. It contains kicks, punches, throws, locks.. it has almost everything. Hapkido is complete defensive art, however, could be used for offence. Master Choi was the one who brought the Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu to Korea, however, his students added kicks and so on to the Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu, and named it Hapkido later on. When written in chinese character, Hapkido is written as same as Aikido, however two arts are rather different. From what I have seen and read, Hapkido's throws and locks are much more closer to Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. Hapkido kicks are slightly different from TKD kicks (depends on where and who you learn the Hapkido from, TKD for that matter). Hapkido uses circular motion, where TKD uses linear motion. Pete ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 8:14:04 PDT Subject: BOUNCE the_dojang: Admin request Forwarded message: From: "Craig Stovall" Subject: Gary Pieratt...celebrity at large. I was leafing through the latest issue of 'TKD Times' during yesterday's lunch hour at Barnes & Noble (can't bring myself to subscribe to that mag). I was surprised to see a familiar name in the martial arts news section. It seems that our very own Gary Pieratt has been the recipient of some recent promotions, and has had a brief write-up about it done in TKD Times. I urge everyone to go out and pick up a copy. You even get to see a shot of Gary's mug that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he may be the second best looking man on the list (keep in mind that this coming from THE best looking man on the list)...:) BTW, Gary. Can you give me a rundown on "American Street Karate"? I'm intrigued. Congratulations to Gary!!! Craig "The Pig That Learned to Sing" Stovall _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Atchinson, Kerry M" Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:42:39 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Knee blow-out > From: "Jennifer Towns" > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:09:33 -0400 > Subject: the_dojang: injury help > > Hello all, > I recently blew out my left knee in the dojang, dislocating the kne cap > very > painfully to the side of my leg. I did the same thing to my other knee > only > 4 months ago while bowling, and am still fighting with it (a meniscus > tear) > as my ortho doc thinks, that at 19 yrs old, (you're young, it'll heal). > Now > that I have done the other one also, maybe he'll tak me seriously. I took > 4 > weks off for the other knee, but will have to take more off for this one, > but I do not want it to be the end of my TSD days, especially since I was > just offered a teaching job at th satelite of our school due to the > original's size. What can I do to kep from further damaging my knees > since > my doc seems not to want surgical repair of meniscus, I really want to > comtinue my training, and not be "punches only" as some are already > saying. > Feel free to email me privately at: Alanis0811@msn.com Any and all advice > > would be greatly appreciated. > > Tang Soo, > Jennifer Towns > 1st Dan TSD Cheezic TSD Federation > _________________________________________________________________ > You're young, yes. It'll heal?? Maybe. That attitude from an ortho is a bit cavalier, don't you think? Jennifer, perhaps your ortho didn't have a good understanding of your activities? Make sure they understand what you do, and what you want to continue doing. The kind of stress we encounter in MA can pretty much only make the injury worse without appropriate surgery or PT or both. In my experience you have to figuratively beat them over the head to make them realize that you don't have the lifestyle of an ordinary person. Please don't take chances with your body... you have far too many years left to use it. Do what it takes to heal, and don't be impatient, even if you're doing "punches only" for a while. Take it from an old geezer who's had meniscus surgery. :) Good luck, Kerry WTF TKD ------------------------------ From: Kirk Lawson Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:39:00 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Hapkido > I was wondering if someone might be able to give me some background on > Hapkido. I've heard it's basically Jujitsu with a Korean name. Is that > true? Not exactly, but close. Hapkido is a Korean derivative art supposedly based upon Daito Ryu Aiki JuJitsu, as Aikido is. There seems enough evidence in the content of the art to support this claim. The history of Hapkido, however, is a hotly debated topic with, most likely, some serious "embellishments." Nevertheless, Hapkido is well regarded as a martial art. My recommendation would be to take it if you are interested and *completely ignore* all HKD "history" predating the '50s. It's irrelevant to your practice anyway. > Also I would be interested in any websites that might provide me > with some more indepth info on Hapkido. There are hundreds of them out there. Do a web search or buy a book. > Where I train in TKD also has > Hapkido classes that are free to me once I've been invited to > attend the classes. The reason for "invitation only" training was > explained to me that our instructor likes to know a persons temperment > before he starts > teaching them Hapkido and I just moved to a new city and have only > trained with him for a couple of weeks now. I am very interested in > Jujitsu and if Hapkido and Jujitsu are the same or close to being the > same It would save me loads of time and money. You would probably be quite satisfied with HKD. Peace favor your sword Kirk Lawson ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Shorin Ryu and Ologapo, PI A poster asks: Response: I wish I could help this requestor out. But, I only have a smattering of rememberances of these two topics. My first style was Shorin Ryu learned in Hackensack, New Jersey in the 1960's. Then I learned this style from Mr. Lou Moseley at Great Lakes, Illinois in the early 1980's. Mr. Moseley was a judo champion and on the Olympic team. This was a hard style. There is a book out that lists all instructors in this style and other Okinawan styles. Have him contact the association he quotes via a search engine. My time in Ologapo, Philippines (Subic Bay) brings back memories of bars, booze, and lovely Filipinas. That is a topic currently discussed and elaborated upon in the wreckingcrew list. A bunch of Aussies, expats, and GIs who are still drinking and scattering themselves along low seedy bars in the PI. Currently Angeles City, PI is the mecca for this type of abysmal philandering. Certainly not the type of stuff to discuss on a list wherein martial arts and morality are intertwined. Ah, the memories. McD...(Still crazy after all these years) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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Country Club Drive, Mesa, Arizona Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:39:59 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #485 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.