From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #487 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 17 Aug 2001 Vol 08 : Num 487 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: TKD history the_dojang: Re: identity theft the_dojang: Re: Books for Sale the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #486 Re: the_dojang: Re: Books for Sale the_dojang: Re: TKD history site the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Martin Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: TKD history Also, Charles E. Sereff is president of the USTF (ITF NGB in the United States). Scott McNelley is president of the other USTF that is not part of the ITF. Robert Martin > From: "Melissa Lambton" > > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:49:18 +0100 > Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #482 > > Sir, > Yes it was an interesting read, but spot the obvious > mistake in the > International Organizations section. I noticed that > the picture of General > Choi, Hong Hi (ITF President) is actually that of > Grandmaster Park (GTF > president), even though the subtitle of the picture > is for General Choi. > Anyone else spot this? > Taekwon. > Melissa > > > From: Ray Terry > > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:50:18 PDT > > Subject: the_dojang: another TKD history > > > > An interesting read... another 'History of > Taekwondo'. Recommended... > > > > > http://tkdtutor.com/02-Taekwondo/TKD%20History/01%20Introduction.htm > > > > Ray Terry > > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:34:45 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Re: identity theft In message <200108171507.LAA11508@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com> you write: > >Folks, > >This is a tad bit off-topic, but self-defense is an important subject that >we discuss here on a daily basis. In my honest opinion, we are far more >likely in this day and age to become a victim of non-violent crimes...most >notably, financial crimes such as identity theft. This is also off-topic, but something I just remembered on reading this - apparently a lot of credit-card fraud is committed by trawling through trash looking for discarded slips with your card number on. I didn't realise this until my husband pointed out to me that I shouldn't throw this slips in the trash but should rip them up first. Donnla. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt Computer Laboratory, New Museums Site, Graduate Student Pembroke St., Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. tel: +44-1223-334619 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ "An eyelash! How could you be so careless!" - Jude Law, Gattaca ------------------------------ From: DrgnSlyr5@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:28:51 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Books for Sale In a message dated 8/17/2001 7:44:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I have a couple old martial arts books that I want to sell off, so I'm listing them here first. Ray, just let me know if this something you don't want done here in the future. >> Ray, I hope you will allow this kind of exchange to continue on the Digest. Why not give our MA family here on the list the first shot? DS ------------------------------ From: FGS & KVF Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:38:29 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #486 > From: "Craig Stovall" > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:00:53 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: Self-defense...of a different kind. > > 1. Bringing the responsible parties to justice. As a matter of fact, the > person responsible has already been identified through my OWN investigations > into this matter (they screwed with the wrong boy). Only a matter of time > before the police pick them up. Good for you, glad you were able to figure out who. Hope they are successfully prosecuted and your stress level drops. > > 2. Preventing this type of crime from happening to me in the future. > Truthfully, this could have been much worse. In this case, they somehow got > ahold of my Debit Card account number. Things could have really hit the fan > had they gotten their hands on my address, social security number, and/or > checking account number. Scary thot. Esp, when you think of how easy it is to get ahold of personal info in order to use and damage someone's financial status. Thanks for the website, and glad you aren't out more. Spunky ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:36:56 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: Books for Sale > << I have a couple old martial arts books that I want to > sell off, so I'm listing them here first. Ray, just let me > know if this something you don't want done here in the future. >> > > Ray, I hope you will allow this kind of exchange to continue on the Digest. > Why not give our MA family here on the list the first shot? Assuming it remains within reason, it should not be a problem. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "ISA CONSULTATION GROUP" Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:03:42 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: TKD history site On this same site and page the following is there: Taekwondo slowly made its way into the United States from Korea. In 1946-1947, Choi Hong Hi taught martial arts to both Koreans and Americans stationed at Tae-jon, Korea. In 1952, Tae Hi Nam received a lot of publicity when he demonstrated before military troops and the public at Ft. Benning, Georgia. In 1959, Choi visited several Taekwondo schools while visiting Texas. In June 1963, Choi hosted a demonstration at the United Nations Headquarters in New York City and, four years later, on Nov. 26, 1967, the United States Taekwondo Association (USTA) was formed. IN 1974, the USTA was superseded by the United States Taekwondo Federation (USTF). The USTF is the ITF representative in the United States. But the picture is of Scotty Mc Neely, who was a member of the early 70's ATA and then helped form the Arkansas version of the USTF, not to be confused with the Colorado USTF under GM Sereff (sp?). The Ark. version finally did change their name. George Petrotta >From: "Melissa Lambton" >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:49:18 +0100 >Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #482 > >Sir, >Yes it was an interesting read, but spot the obvious mistake in the >International Organizations section. I noticed that the picture of General >Choi, Hong Hi (ITF President) is actually that of Grandmaster Park (GTF >president), even though the subtitle of the picture is for General Choi. >Anyone else spot this? >Taekwon. >Melissa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:44:44 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #487 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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