From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #514 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 6 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 514 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Club and business comments the_dojang: Chung Do Kwan /Jung Do Kwan the_dojang: RE: Acupuncture the_dojang: great seminar the_dojang: Direct Kwan Connections the_dojang: Testing vs. Progress Assessment the_dojang: Fighting Folders video review the_dojang: back home ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "NESSWORTHY, KEN" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:10:52 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Club and business comments Wow Gary, looks like I have upset someone and I sincerely apologise. I think there is a little clarification needed here. First - A school is a school and I teach in a school (call me old fashioned if you want but hey I don't care. Second - Regarding profit, I understand there are a few genuine instructors out there who teach and make a living out of it, for them I take my hat off and bow humbly. But the fact remains that there are a lot of "instructors" who are in it for the money and not for the art of for the love of teaching. Yer I get a great salary from work but the fact remains that I don't take any money from what I teach, at the end of the day the school benefits and so do my students. Also I have had first hand experience regarding these so call instructors who say they love the art as long as you pay them a hugh amount of money and get very little if nothing in return. Third - I know my priorities are all screwed up but then again life's a bit like that ain't it. Like I say I am humbly sorry if I ruffled your feathers, it seems that you take your art very passionately and I hope you are blessed with a constant stream on new student. Regards Ken - I still prefer school to club - Nessworthy ------------------------------ From: "Woodard Brian (ChW/TEF8)" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:14:59 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Chung Do Kwan /Jung Do Kwan Is Jung Do Kwan similar to Chung Do Kwan. Are they both a style of Taekwondo? Inquiring minds want to know. :o) Brian Woodard ------------------------------ From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:29:27 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Acupuncture Cheree, I can tell you that acupuncture has worked for me. And I went into it very skeptical. Don't worry so much about the needles, most of them don't really hurt, except maybe the ones in your fingers and the bottoms of your feet. Danny Dunn <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ From: "sgt evans" Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:46:52 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: great seminar Master Terry; thanks for a great seminar Monday. We experienced an amazing half Day. Let me know when youll be back. Sgt. Bill Evans _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Dana Vaillancourt" Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:39:40 Subject: the_dojang: Direct Kwan Connections Hi. The list is slow, so I thought I'd start a thread. I am curious how many people still have a direct connection (i.e., "they" write letters for dan certificates, etc.) to the main Kwan headquarters of taekwondo in South Korea. Not the Kukkiwon, but the actual Kwan. It seems [sample I know], that this connection has dropped off to new players since the Kwans gave the final authority to issue Teakwondo dan certificates to the Kukkiwon. Of course, the Kwans still give out their own certificates. I know of organizations or "old guard" Grandmasters who do, but few individual Americans seem to have the same relationships to the Kwans nowadays. Thanks. Dana _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Brian Myers Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:01:21 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Testing vs. Progress Assessment A few questions for the "learned" (read as experienced) members of the DD: 1) What system of student assessment do you prefer, Formalized Testings (used by most major MA org.) or individual progress based promotions? 2) What are the benefits/downfalls of Formalized Testings? 3) What are benefits/downfalls of individual progress based promotion? A little explination of what I mean by individual progress based promotion. In some arts, especially those independant or small organization dojos/dojangs, a student is not required to stand in front of a panel and demonstrate techniques and forms. Each student is assessed on a practice by practice basis, and when the instructor feels the student has had "enough time in practice" and more importantly is able to demonstrate a mastery of a certain set of techniques in "regular class activities" they are promoted. I have been a student of both methods, the ATA uses Formalized testing, and my Aiki-Jutsu instructor used the individual approach. While I can somewhat understand the idea behind adding a little pressure at "testing" and therefore making the "action under pressure" more realistic, I think this system fails the students in a couple of ways. First, in most systems that use the Formal Testings, a student is then limited in the techniques he or she is taught at any particular rank. This does not seem to be the case in the individual system. Also, because the students know that they are not being evaluated at every practice they may tend to "slack off" and adopt a "well atleast I showed up." attitude. In the individual system each student would seem to be more motivated to put 110% into every practice, and really pay attention during every session. Yours in the Martial Spirit, Brian Myers ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:40:50 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Fighting Folders video review Fighting Folders: The Definitive Guide to Personal Defense with Tactical Folding Knives with Michael D. Janich Video. Color, approx. 75 min. $39.95 Available from Paladin Press, Gunbarrel Tech Center, 7077 Winchester Circle, Boulder, CO 80301; (303)443-7250; Fax (303)442-8741; to order call (800) 466-6868 or online at http://www.paladin-press.com. ($5.00 P&H charge added to orders) If you own or carry a tactical folding knife, this video will teach you skills to effectively use it. Michael Janich is no stranger to the blade, having shared his knowledge in books, articles, videos and seminars for many years now. In this presentation, Janich shares his expertise in a clear and practical manner. Janich organized this tape in a logical order, starting with the criteria for a tactical folder, moving to one handed opening techniques, carry and draw methods, grips, and then his system of knife fighting based on Filipino knife fighting principles. The section on opening tactical folders is a must for those who carry and use these blades. Janich covers opening a variety of styles with different opening devices. He includes thumb openings, blade grip handle swing openings, ring finger opening for reverse grip or ice pick grip handling and inertia openings that don't rely on the opening devices such as the thumb peg or Spiderco hole. I also liked that Janich pointed out that a tactical folder can also be carried open in a sheath during the carry and draw portion of the video. The latter half of the tape focuses on Janich's system of knife fighting, and is applicable to any blades, not just the tactical folder. It's broken down into the fundamentals of his system, the five angles, pass, follow and meet. He covers de-fanging the snake as well as using your live hand. He ends with the explanation and demonstration of several flow drills and their benefits. His instruction is clear and concise, and the viewer should have no trouble learning and practicing these drills with a training partner by following along with the tape. The viewer should also take note of the purpose of the drills, something I'm glad Janich points out. By studying this tape and practicing what Janich teaches, a person will have a very good foundation on the fundamentals of tactical folder use, and in basic Filipino knife tactics in general. From here, I hope to see Janich continue this instruction by teaching and demonstrating more on how to deploy the tactical folder under various circumstances as you see him do in a couple of the "action" sequences. He has an advanced tactical folder tape coming out later this year, and my advice is to get this tape now, study it, and prepare to learn from the advanced tape when it's released. I know I will! Reviewed by Alain Burrese, September 2001 ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 7:19:39 PDT Subject: the_dojang: back home Back home in sunny California. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #514 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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