From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #537 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 19 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 537 In this issue: the_dojang: PPCT and PSNA the_dojang: Re: melinda, thank you the_dojang: RE: Application stuff Re: the_dojang: PPCT and PSNA the_dojang: get your hair done in Korea the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick McKenna Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:18:12 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: PPCT and PSNA Dear Ray And All Where can I find information on PPCT and PSNA as mentioned below? Thanks, Nick. >The interest is in not so much where the 'hidden' strikes are, but where >the target points are. Perhaps of more interest is something like PPCT >(Pressure Point Control Tactics) or PSNA (Pressure Sensitive Nerve Areas). >This training teaches how and when to use/activate the vital points on the >body. Amazingly effective. - ----------------------------- Nick McKenna 1st Dan Johnson's Tang Soo Do http://www.johnsonskarate.com *************************************************************** The contents of this Email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The views stated herein do not necessarily represent the view of the company. If you are not the intended recipient of this Email you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever. If you have received this mail in error please Email the sender. *************************************************************** RS Components Ltd. ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:21:19 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: melinda, thank you hi dizzy, i was glad to share it. yes, the images certainly were touching...a much needed view. melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Toll Free: 1-877-847-4072 Proud Sponsor of the 2001 10th Annual US Open TKD Championships ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:03:19 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Application stuff Dear Bernard: "....What would the Korean term for Bunkai be?...." If I understand your question in terms of what you are NOT saying you are asking if the Korean martial traditions have a word that equates to the concept of "bunkai" (loosely "analysis"; more loosely "application") as introduced by the Japanese traditions. Apparently the idea of assigning an application to a particular movement in hyung (J. Kata) was introduced by OS Miyagi many years ago and has been no small source of amusement to MA everywhere ever since. To the best of my knowledge Korean martial traditions do not have a word for "bunkai," "ma-ai," "ri-ai" or "seppuku." I suspect the reason is the same as that for why the Koreans (and the Japanese) do not have a unique construct for "computer." Its simply not unique to their culture. As a sidelight to your question, it may be of interest to know that when Okinawan teachers began using this concept of assigning applications to movement in Forms the original intent was to SUGGEST possiblities for practical S/D uses for the movements. Westerners with their tendency to keep things B&W translated this into the idea of absolutes (ie. "this is THE application"). Add a dash of elitism, and equal parts time and distance, and you get people "revealing long-hidden secret moves" (and doing quite well commercially I might add). Against the time that I see someone competently using meridian strikes in NHB to induce coma in a competitor I would support Mr. Stovalls' suggestion. :-) BTW: If you are truely interested, M Pat McCarthy has a well-reviewed translation of "BUBISHI- the Karate Bible" which provides a less fantastic, but, perhaps more authentic approach to the subject of application and PP work. There is also a website which provides application to various hyung albeit solely Japanese tradition from which you can draw interesting interpretations. there is also the BEST KARATE series from the JKA and an independent work by an author whose name escapes me right now. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 9:42:02 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: PPCT and PSNA > Where can I find information on PPCT and PSNA as mentioned below? One place is a video (1) on PSNA by Suro Mike Inay (rip). You should be able to order a copy of the video tape through his son, Jason Inay at jdinay@hotmail.com. This is good stuff and is widely used by LEOs. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:06:42 PDT Subject: the_dojang: get your hair done in Korea Korea on 4-Year Winning Streak in World Skills Competition September 19, 2001 South Korea placed first in the 36th World Skills Competition this year, the fourth straight victory in a row. During the two-week competition that ended in Seoul on Wednesday (Sept. 19), Korea won a total of 20 gold, five silver and seven bronze medals, coming in first among 35 competing countries. Germany came in second with five gold, four silver and one bronze, followed by Japan with four gold, two silver and four bronze medals. First started in 1950 in Spain, the international competition is held every two years to evaluate each country's performance in various vocational skills. Since first participating in the games in 1967, South Korea has shown an excellent performance, winning the competition 13 times in all, according to organizers. Korea hosted this year¡¯s event, which drew more than 2,000 workers and students from around the world. Participants competed in 45 trades, such as fitting, welding, carpentry, plumbing, cooking, hairdressing, floristry, auto body repair and construction steel work. The next World Skills Competition will be held in St. Gallen, Switzerland, in 2003. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:07:25 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #537 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.