From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #545 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 25 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 545 In this issue: the_dojang: hapkido the_dojang: private lessons the_dojang: correct title Re: the_dojang: GM JI the_dojang: Re: Roundhouse kick the_dojang: statement the_dojang: Pregnant women training the_dojang: 2nd Annual Moja Kwan Seminar the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hapkido Self Defense Center" Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:55:54 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: hapkido Master J. R. West, hapkido 8th dan (and the first American certified as a BB by the Korea Kido Association [kidohwe]), will be conducting a one day seminar on November 10th in Fort Wayne, Indiana. The cost if you are pre-registered is only $55 for the entire day. If you are in the MIDWEST (USA), I hope to see you there. For a flyer, registration form etc., a website is up at http://www.awnewhapkido.com/Events.htm. My group from Cincinnati will be travel and we hope to see everyone from the MIDWEST at the event. If you have any questions, I will be happy to help. This event is sponsored by the United States Korean Martial Arts Federation (www.hapkido.com) Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul ------------------------------ From: Neal Konecky Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: private lessons Hello All, I had a situation come up and I would like some advice. Someone asked me if I would give them, (at this point the whole family) private lessons. They have some neighbors who are interested too. I said that I would consider it, but I forst need to clear it with SaBum. He did not object and agreed to do the testing, if and when that becomes necessary. Lessons will take place at the students home. Facilities are acceptable. Now, here are the practical issues. What are average fees? What are my insurance concerns? Are there any other issues I need concern myself with? Thank you. Neal Konecky ===== Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and success of liberty. John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:29:22 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: correct title Chris, I was told that when talking to your Instructor, you should always use the full title, Kwan Jang Nim. However, when referring to him in a conversation, the 'Nim' should be replaced with his name. If his name was John Q. Public, he would then be referred to as Kwan Jang Public. Sincerely, Emil Fisk fiskej@pd.jaring.my ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:54:32 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: GM JI > I was surfing through the net and have seen some pics of you with > Grandmaster Ji. How long have you trained with him? What was the training > like? Before GM Ji moved to New Jersey (4.5 years ago) his dojang was then in Monterey, CA which is about an hour and a half drive from here. He had moved to NJ once before, then he returned to CA, then went back to NJ. I keep hoping he'll return, but he seems happy where he is for now. The dojang in Monterey was a nice big place, lots of mat space, very high ceilings, but it was in the wrong part of town. It was in more of a tourist area than an area near residential parts of town. Close friend and list member Master Jon C. Ward and I would drive down on the weekends to train with him. DoJuNim and I had talked on the telephone a couple of times, but I first met him at his Pacific Grove (PG) dojang in the early 90s. PG is next to Monterey. That was one HUGE dojang. He had a special dorm room for live-in students to sleep in, a big room for folks to lay out their sleeping bag & pad. A room with a large target board on one end for rock/knife/nail throwing practice. Lots of special purpose rooms on top of a very large central mat room. Fun times... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Piotr Bernat Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:14:29 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Roundhouse kick > I'm fuzzy on what is meant by angling the round kick down???? Can someone explain? > targets? purpose? mechanics? Is it for attacking a low joint(like the knee)? Still, in my mind, > the kick would be horizontal, just low ... help this poor feeble minded person out! We train a certain variation of round kick which is angling down. It`s in fact a combination when you start the faking movement of a front kick, an then twist your hips to strike opponent`s head. The foot goes downwards from above opponent`s shoulder. This is often followed with a back kick. Pozdrawiam - -- Piotr Bernat dantaekwondo@lublin.home.pl http://www.taekwondo.prv.pl ------------------------------ From: "Meghan Gardner" Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:25:20 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: statement Greetings... I good friend of mine asked me, as an instructor of violence, to write a statement in regards to our nation's response to terrorism. Below is my response. I expect that there will be a number of people on this list who will disagree with at least part of it. I look forward to the discussion. Meghan Gardner Director Guard Up, Inc. www.guardup.com Burlington, MA USA 781.270.4800 "Always carry love in your heart, and a knife in your pocket." me ____________________________________________________________________________ I am too much of a fighter at heart to turn the cheek on this one. As much as our government may have brought this upon us by (in my not-so-humble opinion) sticking its fingers into other nation's conflicts for the sole reason of protecting oil interests, this attack was uncalled for. And the perpetrators must be brought to justice. The sadness of this whole thing is, however, that our government will continue to tromp upon various cultures who control the output of oil and, as such, terrorism will not end. We need to examine the reason for such malevolence against our nation and understand our own role in sparking such a response. And then wonder long and hard as to whether the risk is justifiable. But if we tolerate no violence against one another, then how are we to defend ourselves? I hold that violence should only ever be the last option. But never discarded as a possibility. We should first approach one another with love and patience. We should endeavor to understand and to educate against all forms of intolerance. But we also have a responsibility to protect ourselves and those who cannot protect themselves. For if we reject violence completely, we will only succeed in leaving it within the hands of those who will misuse it. Violence is an answer... but not the only one. Sun Tzu wrote many centuries ago that you should never corner your enemy and leave them with nothing to lose. He was the greatest military leader of his time for a good reason. He knew that an enemy with nothing left to lose was extremely dangerous. They became empowered by their position. They would die taking as many of your forces as they could. And their hatred would know no boundaries. In this situation, I believe that violence is justified and necessary. However, it needs to be tempered with patience and directed with understanding. Our response needs to be precise... if we take innocent lives we become no better than those who have heaped this atrocity upon us. If we act in righteousness that is blind to our own role in this tragedy, then we will never escape the vicious cycle that can only perpetuate more violence and more hatred. Gavin deBecker wrote that there are 4 ways to tell if someone will carry through on a violent threat: 1) Justification: Do they feel they are justified in their actions? 2) Alternatives: Do they believe that they lack any other alternatives? 3) Consequences: Do they think that the possible consequences of their actions are acceptable? 4) Ability: Do they have the ability to carry out the threat? We can affect their ability through higher security measures. We can stiffen the consequences with our own violent responses. However, we cannot take away their Justification if we do not provide them with Alternatives to terrorism. We need to be just in our actions. We need to hold terrorists accountable and make the consequences heavy. But we need to also be aware of the "wipe 'em out" mentality that will only empower their position. We need to provide their cause with alternatives to violence. And we need to direct our scrutiny inward and question why our most violent enemies of the past two decades were, at one time, financed and trained by our own government. We need to understand our role in this as we impart justice. Because the purpose of violence should never be to further violence. Utilized alone, it will no longer be the last alternative... it will be the only alternative. At this moment we become the enemy we seek to destroy. This is the double edge of the sword of violence. God help us if we misuse it. ------------------------------ From: Charles Richards Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Pregnant women training On pregnant women and training. This weekend I hosted an all day training seminar with guest Master Rich Hodder. My lovely wife Nicole, an 8th Gup in our school completed the entire 5+ hours of training at 21 weeks pregnant, and 31 years old. I just had to be real careful with the 45 degree roundkicks to the body Master Hodder was showing us Of course chasing our 21 month old son around seems to keep her in great shape. I am so proud of her and ALL my students that participated! Deep and Humble Bow, Charles R. Moja Kwan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Charles Richards Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: 2nd Annual Moja Kwan Seminar Dear list, I am planning to host the annual TSD/TKD/SBD/MDK training seminar again in 2002. I understand from this year that several NGB's had tournaments, BB training, tests or pre-tests in September. Please advise me of any major events in the southeast that would/could conflict with September 14th or 21st, 2002. Alternate dates are late July 2002, or better? Thanks again to Ray for the bandwidth. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TSD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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