From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #553 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 30 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 553 In this issue: the_dojang: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:06:29 -0700 the_dojang: you gotta play this the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #552 the_dojang: Re: titles the_dojang: Press Release the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alagna, Steven M" Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:06:29 -0700 >>I agree, and I thank everyone for their input on the "recoil" of kicks..... I didn't want a big heated discussion on it... but just wanted to throw the idea out in the open and see what everyone's feelings were to it.... Like I mentioned it was just odd to think that some schools/teachers would not emphasize this particular kicking technique. thanks for all the input Cory>> Ummm... I don't know... I can agree that in sparring in the comfort of our dojangs that recoiling the kick is a good idea which allows for speed, multiple follow-up kicks, and keeping your partner from grabbing your kick, but if you are trying to put a real attacker down with a hard, powerful, fast kick thrown to maim and injure an attacker, follow-thru may be the way to go. I don't want to stand around trading blows with someone... I don't want to get into a boxing match. I want to strike pre-emtively or block/parry their strike and return hard and fast with my own, hopefully putting them down. I think this also goes for hand strikes. I don't want to throw some fast snap back jab, looking for that scoring point, I want to move forward with a hard strike going right over the top of them. This is no boxing match or sparring with your "partner" who is expecting you to kick with "light contact". I don't know about you, but I am not out to hurt someone in the dojang. Try kicking a wavemaster bag over and recoiling your kick at the same time. You have to move forward fast, hard, and commit your body weight. You have to lean in and give it everything you've got. This is how I want to kick someone who is attacking me! Most knockouts in boxing that I've seen are not from jabs, which are blows that recoil quickly and are not power punches, but from crosses and upper-cuts which show the fighter moving forward with a lot of follow-thru, commitment, hardly any recoil. Steven M. Alagna ------------------------------ From: bredfield Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:44:30 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: you gotta play this I GUARANTEE YOU WILL LOVE THIS GAME,I scored 68500,so far, http://www.fieler.com/terror/ BGR ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:45:46 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #552 Dear Hapki: "....Testosterone... I'll have to ask my wife about that when she arrives in Korea next week. She's from "Esan" & 22 years younger than me... Hmmm..." In which case I can only restate my concern that you "pace" yourself. :-) Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:44:17 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: titles Sorry it has taken so long to write on this. If you are writing to the person, you can address the letter to: Kwanjangnim, You don't need to put the name when it is to the person. If I want to talk about my instructor to someone else, normally they would know who my instructor is, so Kwanjangnim would be sufficient. If I do want to use the name, use the name first so my instructor in Korea is Kim Kwanjangnim, or Kim Young-jong Kwanjangnim. Note, any time I am speaking about my instructor, or another, I use the nim honorific. If I am writing about myself, I would not use nim. You never use nim when referring to yourself. Signing: Alain Burrese, Kwanjangnim would not be correct, and in fact is impolite. I could sign: Kwanjang Alain Burrese So, when referring to another, you put the name first and then title with nim. When referring to yourself, never use nim and put the title first. Relationship between the parties is also a significant factor in how people are addressed both orally and in writing, so there are variances to be looked at as well. But the use of nim for someone else and never for yourself is one basic rule that it easy to remember. Titles are important in Korea, and I make sure I use the proper titles when communicating with my Korean instructors. I sort of find it humorous though when I see Americans using the titles wrong and forcing others to address them with a title that is in part of a different language, etc. Sometimes people get caught up with things that just are not important to get caught up in. I had an American once tell me that my wife and other Koreans were using a Korean term wrong. Hmm... If you are wanting to know the correct use so you can be polite and correct when communicating with Korean martial artists, great. If you want to know so you can have people call you something, well.... Yours in Training, Alain ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 19:36:10 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Press Release Forwarded message: Cleveland, Ohio - The Kick Drugs Out of Alliance Competition Team made a strong debut at Rick McClain's 2001 Martial Arts Odyssey Tournament in Cleveland, Ohio September 29th. The 13 person team (ages 7-13) walked away with 21 trophies and a lot of smiles. KDOA Program Coordinator, Master Jeff Helaney, said the highlight of the day's events came when martial arts legend, Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, stopped over to congratulate the children and have his photo taken with the kids. Wallace is the former undefeated Middle Weight Champion of the world. After ending a since unmatched fighting career, Wallace took his talents to the big screen. He has stared in several movies with Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan. Kick Drugs Out of Alliance is a free program offered to children in the Alliance City Schools. The innovative drug education/positive decision making program is a cooperative endeavor of the Alliance City Schools, the Alliance Police Department, ACTC Martial Arts, and the Stark County Metropolitan Housing Authority. Notable among the KDOA Competition Team victories were; Brint Gurung - 1st Place Boy's 13-14 Advanced Forms and Sparring, Cheyenne Kerns - 1st Place Girl's 11-12 Advanced Forms and Sparring, Lena Cobos 1st Place Girl's 11-12 Intermediate Forms, Nutisha Blake - 1st Place Girl's 11-12 Intermediate Sparring and 2nd Place Intermediate forms. Also placing were; Karli Rhome - 2nd Place Girl's 9-10 Intermediate Forms and Sparring, Josh Weaver - 2nd Place Boy's 11-13 Intermediate Forms and Sparring, Amber Hudgins - 3rd Place Girl's 11-12 Intermediate Forms and 4th Place Sparring, Ben Thompson - 2nd Place Boy's 11-12 Advanced Forms and 3rd Place Sparring, James Rowe - 3rd Place Boy's 13-14 Advanced Forms and Sparring, Devin Palmer - 3rd Place Boy's 6-7 Beginner's Forms. PHOTOGRAPHS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 8:19:22 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #553 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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