From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #554 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 1 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 554 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Bill Wallace's Acting talents the_dojang: Re: Rechambering Kicks the_dojang: Re: jabs the_dojang: Re: Recoiling kicks the_dojang: Chuseok "Korean Thanksgiving" Greetings From Koje-do, S. Korea the_dojang: Sciatica and Taekwondo the_dojang: RE: Non-recoiled Kicks stuff Re: the_dojang: Re: jabs the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BK4Leg@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:37:56 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Bill Wallace's Acting talents In a message dated 9/30/01 10:53:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << He has stared in several movies with Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan. >> Loved this description of Bill Wallace's movie career in that press release about the tournament in Cleveland Ohio. Bernie ------------------------------ From: Richard Zaruba Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:39:37 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Rechambering Kicks > Ummm... I don't know... I can agree that in sparring in the comfort of our > dojangs that recoiling the kick is a good idea which allows for speed, > multiple follow-up kicks, and keeping your partner from grabbing your kick, > but if you are trying to put a real attacker down with a hard, powerful, > fast kick thrown to maim and injure an attacker, follow-thru may be the way > to go. I don't want to stand around trading blows with someone... I don't > want to get into a boxing match. I want to strike pre-emtively or > block/parry their strike and return hard and fast with my own, hopefully > putting them down. I think this also goes for hand strikes. I don't want > to throw some fast snap back jab, looking for that scoring point, I want to > move forward with a hard strike going right over the top of them. This is > no boxing match or sparring with your "partner" who is expecting you to kick > with "light contact". I don't know about you, but I am not out to hurt > someone in the dojang. Try kicking a wavemaster bag over and recoiling your > kick at the same time. You have to move forward fast, hard, and commit your > body weight. You have to lean in and give it everything you've got. This > is how I want to kick someone who is attacking me! Most knockouts in boxing > that I've seen are not from jabs, which are blows that recoil quickly and > are not power punches, but from crosses and upper-cuts which show the > fighter moving forward with a lot of follow-thru, commitment, hardly any > recoil. > > Steven M. Alagna What type of kick and effect do you want determines whether you should rechamber the kick. Kicking all the way through a target (A.K.A opponent) to deliver maximum power in a kick, such as a Muey Thai style roundhouse, works great if it is set up properly. Used at the wrong time or set up improperly you leave your back open to attack because of over rotation, for example. A sharp thrust kick to lower area such as the groin , quad or abdominal area can cause a significant amount of damage and set up the opponent for being finished. Normally his guard will drop to the area that was attacked and his attention and focus on you is diverted leaving his head wide open. I teach my beginners to rechamber their kicks and then teach my intermediate and advanced students to use either at the appropriate time and place. Everything has its own place and time. Sincerely, Richard Zaruba ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:35:32 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: jabs Most knockouts in boxing >>>>>that I've seen are not from jabs, which are blows that recoil quickly and are not power punches, but from crosses and upper-cuts which show the fighter moving forward with a lot of follow-thru, commitment, hardly any recoil. Steven M. Alagna<<<<<<<< Steven, I agree with the point you were making, but do take the time to read my article on jabs when it comes out in MARTIAL ARTS & COMBAT SPORTS. Jabs can be quite powerful if you throw them correctly, that's why Dempsey liked to call them jolts rather than jabs. Like a well placed sniper round, a jab can take someone out. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:40:31 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Recoiling kicks In a message dated 9/30/2001 7:53:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Try kicking a wavemaster bag over and recoiling your kick at the same time. You have to move forward fast, hard, and commit your body weight. You have to lean in and give it everything you've got. This is how I want to kick someone who is attacking me! Most knockouts in boxing that I've seen are not from jabs, which are blows that recoil quickly and are not power punches, but from crosses and upper-cuts which show the fighter moving forward with a lot of follow-thru, commitment, hardly any recoil. >> Well, in a self defense situation I would be kicking thru their legs ... not on top of them and coming back right away. But I thought we were talking about kicks in the dojang and sparring in the dojang ... with our friends. Self defense training is totally different and we do work on that in our school, also. Illona ------------------------------ From: hapki@gmx.net Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 08:09:25 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: Chuseok "Korean Thanksgiving" Greetings From Koje-do, S. Korea It's Chuseok - "Korean Thanksgiving" here in Korea today. May your day be bright and your troubles be forgotten for this day. - -> Hapki <- Tao Koje-do, S. Korea ------------------------------ From: "Prince Loeffler" Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:39:11 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Sciatica and Taekwondo Recently a friend of mine decides to join my class and when I asked him about his physical limitations he admitted that he recently just recovered from a sciatic nerve pinch. I am a little apprehensive of taking him as a student. My question to this list How can Taekwondo or any martial arts become a method of training for adults who recently suffered from a sciatica nerve pinch or other injuries? with this typeof physical condition, how many sessions per week is healthy, and how long should each of them be? What type of training is ideal? Thank you in Advance ! Prince Loeffler ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:14:20 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Non-recoiled Kicks stuff Dear Steven: ".... Try kicking a wavemaster bag over and recoiling your kick at the same time. You have to move forward fast, hard, and commit your body weight. You have to lean in and give it everything you've got. This is how I want to kick someone who is attacking me! Most knockouts in boxing that I've seen are not from jabs, which are blows that recoil quickly and are not power punches, but from crosses and upper-cuts which show the fighter moving forward with a lot of follow-thru, commitment, hardly any recoil...." I'm with you, and would add that for additional affirmation one need only watch any of the breaking demos or competitions in empty-hand arts or cutting demos using a weapon. Commitment and follow-through are paramont. What makes such technique an art is the control one demonstrates such that follow-through and commitment remain under the control of the individual and don't simply become ballistic techniques. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 8:04:20 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: jabs > Jabs can be quite powerful if you throw them correctly, that's why Dempsey > liked to call them jolts rather than jabs. Like a well placed sniper round, > a jab can take someone out. Granted, but Dempsey's jolt wasn't really a jab, it was a different punch. In this book Championship Fighting (1950) he described his jolt as a punch where, while leaning forward, you pick up your left foot (assuming a left lead) and then fall forward as you delivery the punch (punching with the lower three knuckles, Wing Chun style, rather than the top two, Karate style). Thus his left jolt had his body weight behind it. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 8:07:39 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #554 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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