From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #556 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 2 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 556 In this issue: [none] the_dojang: Master Chang the_dojang: recoiling the leg the_dojang: Re: sciatica the_dojang: Sciatica the_dojang: Training the_dojang: Re: jabs Re: the_dojang: Re: jabs the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "rich hodder" Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 01:51:03 Subject: [none] Way ta go Libby, keep it up, TKD is a life art. Rich _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:33:21 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Master Chang FYI... Forwarded message: Please if anyone knows of Master Chang and the Sang Rok World Taekwondo Academy in Korea - his son Sang Rok is ill - Extract of an email from Master Chang - Recently, after hearing about Sangrok's case, the Korean Taekwondo Association, in an effort to help Sangrok, have published an article about him on their website. However, as this website is only in Korean, I am including the site address of Korea Taekwon Net. This is the most popular Taekwondo site in Korea, and an English version of the article is listed on this site. http://www.taekwon.net/english/index.asp Master Chang has trained people from all roudn the world at his academy in Seoul and is it with great saddness that I learn that his son has Leukemia He has made us extremely welcome the several times we have trained with him, partied with him and he and his family and indeed his TKD family worldwide wish his son a speedy and full recovery Thanks for your time Karen Mick & Karen Williams Just for Kicks Taekwondo 225 Wilton Road WILTON NSW 2571 A U S T R A L I A Tel/Fax: (02) 46 309423 Mobile: (0407) 407 763 http://www.itacs.uow.edu.au/people/karenw/jfkhome.html ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:31:56 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: recoiling the leg Steven: <> If you train right, not at all IMO. I think you can kick through and still recoil. Problem is, many students will recoil too soon. You kick through, and only after the object you kicked stops your momentum (such as a bag), then recoil. Otherwise, the student will only lightly kick the bag/opponent and not kick very hard at all. I don't suggest doing this on a fellow student/partner, but through bag training. I believe a good martial artist can have both total control and full power. Mac (in the peanut gallery) ------------------------------ From: FGS & KVF Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:20:25 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: sciatica > Subject: the_dojang: RE: Training Stuff > > "..... My question to this list > How can Taekwondo or any martial arts become a method of training for adults > who recently suffered from a sciatica nerve pinch or other injuries? with > this typeof physical condition, how many sessions per week is healthy, and > how long should each of them be? What type of training is ideal?...." Your best bet is to ensure that he has spoken with the M.D. and P.T. that worked with him on the injury. It is possible to train in MA after suffering sciatica, but the adult must come with a note that states he can train without harm from the MD or PT, with perhaps some suggestions for things to avoid or have caution with. As long as you, the student and the medical people are on the same page, there is no reason why not to train. Definitely will have limits at the beginning and should be slow and gradual with intensity and frequency, but lots of MAs have Low back probs and are successful. good luck. Spunky > > ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 14:02:38 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Sciatica Prince wrote: > How can Taekwondo or any martial arts become a method of training for adults > who recently suffered from a sciatica nerve pinch or other injuries? Greetings Prince: I suffered a significant back injury (some years ago) that also damaged the Sciatic nerve causing drop foot. Unfortunately, the preferred treatment at that time was total bedrest. In fact, I spent quite some time on a striker board. This treatment did more damage than good. Only after changing to a physician who was more prone to new methods of treatment, did I begin to make progress. He allowed me to train to the best of my ability, and it helped a great deal. Whenever my back bothers me today, I just keep moving. That way, the problem usually subsides within a few days, the old way had me laid up for months at the time. IMHO, let the man train; however, make sure you have a physician's note to cover your ass ets. Discuss what type of training he can handle, and watch out that he does not overdo it. Machismo often makes students do more than they should, and a good Instructor allows him to save face by stopping him. Sincerely, Rudy ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 14:19:18 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Training Libby writes: > I'm inspired and eager. Watch out fellow students... this > woman and her enthusiasm are back to the dojang! Way to go Libby. Best wishes with your training. Sincerely, Rudy ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:31:59 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: jabs Ray writes: << Granted, but Dempsey's jolt wasn't really a jab, it was a different punch. In this book Championship Fighting (1950) he described his jolt as a punch where, while leaning forward, you pick up your left foot (assuming a left lead) and then fall forward as you delivery the punch (punching with the lower three knuckles, Wing Chun style, rather than the top two, Karate style). Thus his left jolt had his body weight behind it. >> Dempsey's jolt was a straight left, and is what a jab should be. Jabs with his "falling step" "trigger step" "drop step" or "gliding step" are straight punches with the lead hand with body motion behind the blow. (Note, Dempsey only used the terms "falling step" and "trigger step," the other terms are used by different people to describe basically the same thing.) You will notice that Dempsey doesn't teach a "jab" in his book Championship Fighting, he teaches the "jolt." Dempsey didn't like the term left jab, so he called his left lead a left jolt. Go ahead a few years and you will find the same falling and trigger step described in Ned Beaumont's "Championship Streetfighting." Ned is a follower of Dempsey and describes Dempsey's "jolt" in the section on jabs. Ned continues with this theory and teaches that your left jab should not be a light, flicking blow, but rather a punch with the waist twist and body motion behind it that has power. And yes, both Dempsey and Beaumont prefer the three knuckle landing. It is the straight lead punch with the falling step, which many call the jab, that I wrote the article about for MACS and mentioned before. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 7:54:35 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: jabs > ... (Note, Dempsey > only used the terms "falling step" and "trigger step," the other terms are > used by different people to describe basically the same thing.) Page 26 of his book: Best of all the punches is the "stepping straight jolt," delivered with either fist from the "falling step". Page 27: That stepping jolt must not be confused with the "ordinary straight punch"... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 8:04:07 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #556 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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