From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #557 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 2 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 557 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Jabs the_dojang: Re: recoiling the leg Re: the_dojang: Re: Jabs the_dojang: RE: jabs the_dojang: Will the Real TKD Please Stand Up! the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:01:30 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Jabs Dempsey, Championship Fighting p. 50: "I use the expression "left jolt" instead of "left jab" because I don't want you to confuse the type of straight left you will throw, with the futile straight left or "jab" used by most current amateur and professional boxers. Most of them couldn't knock your hat off with their left jabs." He does say that you can use a light left jab in a one-two combination when you use your left on the opponent's forehead to tip his head back so that your immediately following straight right can nail him on the chin. (p. 51) ------------------------------ From: "Dana Vaillancourt" Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 15:18:29 Subject: the_dojang: Re: recoiling the leg I wanted to add to Mac's comments in saying that practicing breaking is a good way to break that early recoil habit. I have a board holder mounted to the wall and rebreakable boards. People have the habit of trying to use just enough, recoil too soon, or not take the target seriously. The boards do not care and do not quibble, they either break or not. You can still be fast, have follow-through and recoil - - and break. Doesn't ruin you for point or WTF style sparring. It may hurt your pride though, but that is why pride is there!! Dana >From: "Mac" >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:31:56 -0500 >Subject: the_dojang: recoiling the leg > >Steven: ><light contact?>> > Mac. >If you train right, not at all IMO. I think you can kick through and still >recoil. Problem is, many students will recoil too soon. You kick through, >and only after the object you kicked stops your momentum (such as a bag), >then recoil. Otherwise, the student will only lightly kick the >bag/opponent and not kick very hard at all. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 8:54:17 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: Jabs > Dempsey, Championship Fighting p. 50: > > "I use the expression "left jolt" instead of "left jab" because I don't want > you to confuse the type of straight left you will throw, with the futile > straight left or "jab" used by most current amateur and professional boxers. > Most of them couldn't knock your hat off with their left jabs." ??? But you said in your earlier post that Dempsey didn't use the term 'jolt', or at least that is the way I read it. That is why I posted counterexamples. Did you mean he didn't use it early on and picked up that term later from others??? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Wallace, John" Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:07:21 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: jabs Ray and Alain: With regard to Dempsey's (and others) advocacy for striking with the last three knuckles, how is it that they avoid the common "boxer fracture" of the fourth metacarpal? Perhaps its a legend, but the EMT and emergency room nurse I work out with say that they can immediately tell when someone's broken hand is from brawling by the characteristic break that a poorly trained puncher sustains. (I know that Dempsey's bare-knuckle credentials are solid...there's still a disparity between what I hear regarding the consequences of punching that way). - -JW 1st gup, TKD Fremont, CA ------------------------------ From: "Alagna, Steven M" Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:06:14 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Will the Real TKD Please Stand Up! Hello, What would you say, if a person says that you are not practicing/studying real TKD because it is not I.T.F. TKD?? Steven M. Alagna ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 18:05:59 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #557 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.