From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #562 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 5 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 562 In this issue: the_dojang: funny the_dojang: palm strikes the_dojang: Cross-Border Road the_dojang: RE: Not Real TKD the_dojang: Real TKD???? the_dojang: Heavy Bags the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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Check it out... http://home.houston.rr.com/surrenderownz/auction.htm Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: mtomlins@mail.volusia.k12.fl.us Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:04:54 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: palm strikes I like to bend my fingers when I do the palm strikes so they don't get hung on anything,, I know Master Whalen does this whole series of advanced double palm strikes, that are really cool,, we also used palm strikes a lot in college on the football field, they were called linebacker and defensive line techniques, and we would always do them full power, the applicable use of these techniques in self defense are that we always used the palm strikes on the football field to the head and the shoulders or ribs,, just like in a fight,, I like to use the palm strikes in Hapkido to protect the knuckles and to keep you in good position to grab afterwards,,, also,, some of my students that are in law enforcement say they like using the palm strikes because they are more "civil court friendly". Michael Tomlinson **************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at administrator@volusia.k12.fl.us. **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 18:02:05 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Cross-Border Road Cross-Border Road Proposed for Tourists to Mt. Geumgang October 4, 2001 South Korean negotiators on Thursday (Oct. 4) proposed that the two Koreas inaugurate a temporary cross-border road within this year to facilitate South Korean tours to this scenic mountain resort. The proposal was made by Southern chief delegate Cho Myong-kyun on the opening day of working-level talks at the Geumgangsan Hotel. Negotiations are aimed at working out government-level measures to stimulate the tourism project, which is reeling from the dwindling number of tourists and financial difficulties of the Hyundai Group, which built the mammoth tourist resort. Cho said that it is desirable to open a temporary 13.7 kilometer (8.6 mile) road to kick off a pilot tour program within this year, while starting construction work to build a two-lane paved road by October next year. Although the North's response was not immediately known during the meeting, Kim Taek-ryong, the North's chief delegate, was known to have told South Korean delegates at a dinner Wednesday that he also agrees to take steps as soon as possible to stimulate the tourism project. The South Korean negotiator also called on Pyeongyang to take measures this month to designate Mt. Geumgang and its vicinity as a special tourism zone, thus facilitating efforts to attract investment from South Korea and foreign countries. Meanwhile, the official talks started on Thursday morning after the North backed down from its demand to inspect communications equipment brought by the South Korean delegation. The dispute erupted just after the South Korean delegation arrived here Wednesday. Seoul officials refused to allow the inspections, as it was an unprecedented demand, and this standoff forced the cancellation of the first meeting between chief delegates and the delay of an official dinner on Wednesday. The North eventually relented on Thursday morning, but the official talks still started about one hour later than scheduled. The tourism talks are the second round of official contacts since North Korea ended a six-month-long suspension of government-level negotiations by holding the fifth ministerial talks last month. Absence of inter-Korean dialogue brought a temporary halt to the reconciliation process launched by the summit between the leaders of the two Koreas in June last year. Following the first round of talks, the South Korean delegate told reporters that he couldnt reveal whether Seoul proposed to hold military talks to guarantee construction work inside the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ). As the construction of an overland route should take place inside the DMZ and its vicinity, the North Korean military, which controls its section of the border area, should first agree on the idea. At present, the North Korean military's position on the opening of a land route is not clear. Meanwhile, North Korean delegates reportedly diverted Seoul's attention to Hyundai's promise to provide $942 million to Pyeongyang by March 2005 in return for its exclusive right to operate the tour program. To assist the South Korean government officials, Hyundai also dispatched senior executives to Mt. Geumgang. ------------------------------ From: "Master Frank Clay" Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:11:55 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Not Real TKD Ray, That was well said. Further, there are those who say if you are not part of this organization or that, you are not real Taekwondo... all while offering you the opportunity, for a small fee, to become "real" Taekwondo. Taekwondo as a sport has certain rules... unfortunately, many of those who practice Taekwondo as a sport, practice ONLY the sport, and have forgotten that Taekwondo as a martial art is indeed a very big art, encompassing a myriad of techniques. Frank Clay ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 00:19:51 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Real TKD???? Hiya all. I was talking to someone on the net that said he does "traditional" TKD. I asked him about his forms. He named off about 10 of them. He named off a few ITF forms, and a few TSD forms (some pyung-ahns). There's only 5 colored belts before BB in his dojang, and he said he has to learn three forms for each belt. One from the pyung-ahn series and two from the ITF series. Anyone else hear about this "TKD"? I'm guessing it's from when TSD and TKD split. Tang Soo! Dizzy 5th gup TSD _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 03:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Heavy Bags This posted queried: Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 7:55:22 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #562 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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