From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #565 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 9 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 565 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Bill Wallace Seminar the_dojang: Re: Knife Training and Drunks the_dojang: Real Life Encounters the_dojang: Form Speed the_dojang: RE: Bill Wallace Seminar the_dojang: An Academic Approach... the_dojang: Knife defense/Weapons training/reaction time the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BIG Sean Madigan Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: RE: Bill Wallace Seminar Hi All, You HAVE to make it to the Bill Wallace Seminar. The guy is great! I've been to a couple and he is one of the most down to earth guys there is in the martial arts. Oh, and I agree, the power in the lead leg is very underestimated by many martial artists. All the best, BIG Sean Madigan http://www.bigjkd.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Gassiot" Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:21:54 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Knife Training and Drunks - ----Snip---- >The second was a recent incident with a flathead screwdriver...again a drunk guy. This one was much >easier. I utilized my highly honed TKD frontkick skills and kicked the cardoor closed on the extending >weapon hand. It was just a simple trap the arm, takedown-to-the-face custody after that. >In both situations, the suspect retained hold of the weapon until I pried it from their hand. Well I guess you have to applaud the effort, one would think a sober person would have dropped the screwdriver after the getting it slammed in a car door. I guess you cannot discount the numbing effects of alcohol. As for the spay incident, most people tear and "snot" up right after gettng sprayed, did this slow the guy down much at all? As for my knife training, practically none, unless you count my Walther. DREW "Actually it's a buck and a quarter, quarter staff." ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Gassiot" Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Real Life Encounters Here's a brief incident that occured in which I can't say any of my MA training really came into play, except for raising my awareness level, which was alway fairly high. On my way to a party I stopped to pick up a few overpriced cigars at local liquor store, it was 8:55 they close at 9:00PM. Going into the store my wife was busy on the cell phone, and stayed in the car, on the way out, she had finished her call and was just about to walk through the in door, when she saw me comming out and started a conversation. This distracted me a bit... Anyway walking to our car I noticed four young men in a car directly behind ours, I had pulled through so we were facing out of the parking space. As we approached our car one of them started to get out, and paused, this set off my alarm, and as we were getting into our car he started towards ours. Maybe it was a bit of paranoid behavior, but I quickly got the key in and started the car. I was keeping a close eye on my side view mirror and saw him lift up his shirt enough to expose a revolver, since the car was already started, I simply pulled out leaving him at the rear quarter panel. He was not "flashing" the gun, I don't think many people would have noticed. Anyway as we left the parking lot I saw him walk back and get into the car. I called the local police explained the what I could of the car and the person I saw, don't know what happened from there. This all took place in probably less than 5 seconds, remote unlocks are really great. I always play "what if" this situation occured, or that happened. The interesting thing here is that when fractions of seconds count you don't have the time to record all of the detail you typically take for granted. Even more interesting, in a way I'm happy I was not carrying a concealed firearm that night, and I wonder if I would have done the same thing. I would like to think that I would, as it was the most prudent. Not to mention he had a clear advantage as I would still need to draw my weapon. Has anyone else had a similar situation, what did you do? DREW ------------------------------ From: "Woodard Brian (ChW/TEF8)" Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:54:03 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Form Speed I posted this question awhile back and did not get a response. I will ask again. I have observed at several schools (including my own) people performing the same form at various speeds. Some slow but with great power and accuracy. Others at very fast speeds but hardly any distinction between moves and stances. IMHO the fast way seems sloppy to me especially if the moves are not visibly finished before executing the next move. Now having said that, I have seen many talented MA(s) perform forms with great speed and still show completed moves with accuracy and proper stances; and I do believe that forms should be performed with as much speed and accuracy as can be done without sacrificing proper stance and accuracy. There is also the issue of the physical capabilities of the person performing the form, age and physical stamina. So now on to my question. If you were judging forms in a tournament, how do you weigh speed, accuracy, and stances in form competition. Brian Woodard ------------------------------ From: "Master Frank Clay" Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:51:31 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Bill Wallace Seminar <> Now this statement is a tad arrogant, neh? I have long been of the train of thought that simply because a martial artist is not well known, does not make him inferior to one who is well known. Further, and not to say that Mr. Wallace is not a martial artist, as I know someone will think that is my insinuation, There is a difference between someone who is a martial artist and someone who is a sportsman. Incidentally, I have seen many Taekwondo players who have the ability to strike with speed and power with the front leg. I think that you need to remember that WTF Taekwondo ended up using safety gear, because Taekwondo had caused serious death and some fatalities. Master Ho Sik Pak, of the movie Best of the Best, had told me about a year or so ago, that they had just had a fatality in a tournament near him... so much for Taekwondo being a weak system. Hopefully, this post will generate some disagreement and therefore some posts? Frank ------------------------------ From: Brian Myers Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:11:05 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: An Academic Approach... To ALL DD members, I have recently taken a big step in my MA training, and would like suggestions on how to continue my efforts. Last week I sat down to have a discussion with my instructor. In this conversation I asked some direct questions and asked him to help me understand his teaching style, how he wanted to run his school, and how I might fit into his school. I have been struggling for some time in this school. I started about 5 years ago in the ATA under a different instructor in a different city. Shortly after earning my 1st Deg. BB, I found it necessary to move for work. My wife had been attending a different school for sometime and suggested that I switch schools. I did so, following all the proper protocol, and all seemed to go well. However, it became obvious that my new instructor was not accepting me as his student, and could not "forgive" the fact that I had earned my BB from another instructor. During our conversation I was appalled to find that my questions were being met with reproach, and outright refusal to be discussed. I have always approached this man with respect, and any suggestions I made were made in confidence and with respect. I was accused of being self-centered, egotistical, and trying to usurp his authority. This came from a man who has happily accepted my help as an instructor of his younger children (those that most of our senior BB do not like working with), my volunteering for all types of special assignments and duties within the school, and many other acts that would be considered by most to be "selfless". All the things I have done for his school have been without pay or recognition, and done while I still paid full tuition to attend the few classes I wasn't an instructor in. He refused to answer my questions, instead he hid behind the "ATA Rules" (which are left loose so that each instructor may find the school structure that works best for them), and interogated me with a series of questions that can only be classified as ridiculous. Most of his questions to me were of the type that if I actually had the answers - "they would call me master!" Needless to say, I have left his school, and have decided that to remain in the ATA, an organization that I have some issues with, would not be in my best interest. My question to the DD is two-fold. First, is it possible for me to approach the MAs in a academic manner - looking to compare and contrast the arts (especially Korean) and learn the best of each, forming a "best practice" for me personally? Second, does anyone have suggestions for what art might be a good starting point for my further MA education, and why? Thanks for listening to me rant! Yours in the Martial Spirit, Brian Myers ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:14:09 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Knife defense/Weapons training/reaction time Hiya all. In my dojang, we practice bo staff, and self defense against weapons (mostly against a knife). When one reaches 1st dan, the knife forms come in. My problem is "reaction" time. When we practice self defense (any kind), I don't react fast enough. If I already know what's coming, I can react, and do the proper technique. But if I donno when or what my partner is going to throw at me, I am basically screwed if it was a real fight/attack. Does reaction time get better with time/training? Is there an exercise, or timing/reaction drill I can do to better my reaction time? I'd gladly take any suggestions (this is a good one for the masters out there). Thanks in advance. Dizzy 5th gup TSD _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:08:51 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #565 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.