From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #575 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 15 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 575 In this issue: the_dojang: Bassai the_dojang: rolling cow dung ? the_dojang: Ms. Kim the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #574 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #574 the_dojang: More about Bassai! the_dojang: Here is the dope on John Chapman the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Tang Soo Dizzy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:36:03 PDT Subject: the_dojang: rolling cow dung ? "100 Beautiful Sounds of Korea" Captured on CD and Tape October 14, 2001 Citizens will now be able to feel the beauty of Korea's natural and rural environment through sounds. The Environment Ministry has selected 100 Beautiful Sounds of Korea to be released to the public, officials said on Sunday (Oct. 14). Available in videotape, CD-ROM and DVD, the sounds were taped in different parts of the country after screening of more than 400 sounds suggested by the public. They include exquisite seasonal melodies such as the water running under ice, the falling of hailstones and rustling in rice fields. Nostalgic sounds from Korea's countryside, such as the mooing of a cow, the sounds of grinding with a hand mill and harvesting rice are also captured on tape. The unique ringing of the Emilae Bell, wind chimes, and the Buddhist drum musically portray Korean's traditional Buddhist culture, while the singing of the robust cicada, the crying of a Scops owl, and even the fine sound of a beetle rolling a ball of cow dung show the serenity of Korea. Along with a booklet containing detailed explanations and pictures of the sources of the sounds, the tapes were sent to schools, local governments, public libraries and civic environmental organizations to be used as environmental education tools. From November, the 100 Beautiful Sounds of Korea will be sold to the public and also featured on the Environment Ministry's homepage at www.me.go.kr. All of the publications come with English explanations and captions. ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Pratt" Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:11:29 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: Ms. Kim Ken, You wrote: >> Response: After your arduous training, say hello to Ms. Kim for me at Indian Joe's. It is in Itawon area up toward the end of the strip. She has long black hair, black eyes, and probably a bowl of noodles in front of her. Don't order the peanut/dried fish/fruit tray, that is for locals. << Ha, Ha. I hope Jose doesn't try too hard to find Ms. Kim. Incidentally, you may be interested to know that Ms. Kim's little sister has died her hair florescent blue to try and mix with the young crowd. Best wishes, Andrew ------------------------------ From: "S. H. WEE" Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:44:27 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #574 JFYI, So Rim Sa, Sil Lum Si and Shorinji are just a few different spellings of the Shaolin Temple. > 2. Origin of form's name: The original name of this form was Pal Che. Pal > means "the selection of the best choice". In addition, Pal also means fast. > Che means collect. Movements of this form are selected from the most famous > and effective movement of So Rim Sa (a southern Chinese temple) Kwon Bup > such as Sun In Dan Si Sae, Ho Bing Si Mun Sae, and Pal Ho Mee Sae. The > fast, light and active characteristics of this form show the influence from > So Rim Sa Kwon Bup. This then accounts for the name Pal Che. S. H. Wee shinhoe@pc.jaring.my ------------------------------ From: Creed71963@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 01:47:12 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #574 In a message dated 10/14/2001 5:46:07 PM EST, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: >>From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:44:04 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Korean for Unofficial << Does anyone know the Korean word for "unoffical"? I am putting together a weapons form for my own use, and I want to note that it isn't an 'offical' form to myself. Craig >> According to NTC's Korean and English Dictionary, the adj. unofficial is: pi-gong-sik-ui Yi-saeng says she has never heard this word used for forms, and that it is often used for government, etc. She doesn't really know a different word for what you are doing. Remember, the way we say and put together words, sentences and ideas in the English language don't always translate to other languages. Hope this helps you some. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese>> << From: "J. R. West" Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:07:05 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Unofficial The closest I can think of would be "bee-gong-sik-ui", which means (I think) either unofficial or unapproved..J. R. West... www.hapkido.com>> That's more what I was looking for. Thank you both! If I ever finish up the form, I'll look for a way to post it for C&C..... Craig ------------------------------ From: Nick McKenna Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:18:08 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: More about Bassai! Dear All We call the two forms Bassai Dai and Bassai Sho. I thought that they had two completely different creators, and that Sho was a much newer form - but I could be completely wrong about that... We perform Bassai Sho as an empty-handed form and as a bong/bo/staff/big stick form. The movements / hand positions hardly change at all between the two variations. Also, out interpretation of the name "Bassai" is "Storming The Fortress". This describes the fast pace and frequent stance changes in the form I think. For me, Bassai is an all out assault form! 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I let him buy me dinner cause he thinks he got an audience. Anyway, to cut to the quick...I later do research on this guy and here is what I find out. Read below. This guy was pulling my leg all along. <"Johnny Appleseed" John Chapman (1774-1845) Johnny Appleseed Trail Johnny Appleseed Historical Marker Detailed Biography Johnny Appleseed Homepage Johnny Appleseed was the name given to John Chapman> Big Ken McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 7:51:20 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #575 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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