From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #587 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 21 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 587 In this issue: the_dojang: Punch the_dojang: Re: Niahanchi the_dojang: The other list Re: the_dojang: Punch the_dojang: East Sea vs. Sea of Japan the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Loucat101@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:04:23 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Punch Can anyone tell me what korean for 'punch' is? And also, are the punches named in the same way as kicks, eg ab chagi and ab ... or are the punches ...Il ...E ...sam...etc? Thanks, Louise ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 12:33:53 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Niahanchi In a message dated 10/21/2001 7:44:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Sorry, I did mean Shotokan. If ya compare Naihanchi in TSD and Isshin-ryu, they are very similar (except for a few tehcniques here and there), though. >> If you compare Niahanchi the way the Shotokan stylist do it as compared to the Okinawan styles ... it is different, too. And the Shotokan stylist call it Tekki Shodan as opposed to Niahanchi. Illona ------------------------------ From: mtomlins@mail.volusia.k12.fl.us Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 18:30:04 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: The other list A strange thing happened to me about a month ago on the "other" list,,, I rejoined the list and everything was ok,,, I didn't post on here as a complimentary condition while I was on the "other" list,,, there were some posts on there about how South Korea should reopen talks with North Korea,,, and I voiced my opinion on this subject in my not so politically correct way,,, as I know some of you have heard in the past,,, well after this post was sent,, blamo,,, I recieved no more mail from this "other" message board,, after several attempts to email them and find out what the problem was there was no return mail to me,,, it is like as soon as I wrote a post that some people didn't like I was instantly kicked off of their board,,, wow,, you know I am an American true and thru,, and this seems to me to be something akin to communism,,, at least on this board you guys listen and debate,, isn't that what freedom of speech is all about? One word,,, EGOTISM Michael Tomlinson **************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at administrator@volusia.k12.fl.us. **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:14:53 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Punch > Can anyone tell me what korean for 'punch' is? Jireugi for punch. Chigi for strike. > And also, are the punches > named in the same way as kicks, eg ab chagi and ab ... or are the punches > ...Il ...E ...sam...etc? Frequently the body target is used in the name, e.g. momtong jireugi (trunk punch), mok chigi (neck strike), momtong yup jireugi (truck side punch). Then there are also jecho jireugi (push punch), baro jireugi (right punch) and bandae jireugi (opposite punch). I have also heard round punch, vertical punch, etc. Comments from others? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 19:25:17 PDT Subject: the_dojang: East Sea vs. Sea of Japan The Historical precedent for the "East Sea" January 2000 The Society for East Sea c/o Department of Geography Education College of Education Seoul National University In most world maps and atlases used internationally today, Korea's "East Sea" is indicated as the "Sea of Japan," and therefore an immediate correction is warranted. To this end, it is necessary to review the historical background of the term "East Sea" and how Korea's East Sea has been recognized by neighboring countries and other western countries in the past. Also, to prepare a strategy to change the name "Sea of Japan" back to "East Sea'" it is necessary to review the process of how the "East Sea" was unjustifiably turned into the "Sea of Japan" in the 20th century. Name of "East Sea" in Korean Writings and Ancient Maps Historically, Korea has used the term, "East Sea" in writings since 59 B.C. Examples can be found in numerous records including the Monument of King Kwanggaeto (411), the Samguk sagi (History of the Three Kingdoms, 1145) and the Samguk yusa (Memorabilia of the Three Kingdoms, 1284). Moreover, the still extant "Atlas of Eight Provinces" in the Shinjong tongguk yoji sungnam (A revised edition of the Augmented Survey of the Geography of Korea, 1530) uses the term "East Sea." In addition, a 16th century Tongguk chido (Map of Korea) uses the term "Tong cho taehae" (Great Sea of the Lower East). A map of Yongnam (the southeastern region of the peninsula) which was made in the 1740's and a map of Korea which was officially created in the mid-18th century also used the name, "East Sea." Hence there is much evidence that "East Sea" has been used for centuries. Reference to the "East Sea" was also constant in numerous maps created after the 18th century. Many geography textbooks published and used before the annexation of Korea by Japan in the early 20th century made reference to the "East Sea," "Sea of Choson" or "Sea of Korea." However, already by the early 20th century, there were some textbooks which made reference to the "Sea of Japan." Every textbook published after 1910 refers to the East Sea as the "Sea of Japan." China, Russia, and Japan's Use of "East Sea" According to Chinese sources, China has known of the "East Sea" since the Tang Dynasty; however, they called it just "Sea" or "Great Sea." With the establishment in 698 of the Kingdom of Parhae by Koreans, the Chinese began calling the East Sea the "Sea of Parhae." China used the term, "East Sea," during the Liao Dynasty (947-1125), the Sung Dynasty (960-1279), the Chin Dynasty (1122- 1234), the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368), the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), and the Qing (Ch'ing) Dynasty (1644-1912). At times during the Yuan and Ming Dynasties, the Chinese referred to the East Sea as "Ching Hai" which means "Sea of Whales" because there were a lot of whales found there. During the Ming and Qing Dynasties, the Chinese referred to the northeastern area of the East Sea as "East Sea" and the southern area as the "South Sea." Around 1884 during the Qing Dynasty, some scholars and bureaucrats occasionally used the term "Sea of Japan" in some documents. However, the Russia-Japan Treaty of 1905 was the first documented use of the term "Sea of Japan" at a government level. The "Kunyuwanguoditu" is a map printed in Beijing in 1602. It was a translation into Chinese of a world map kept by a Jesuit priest, Matteo Ricci and it refers to the East Sea as the "Sea of Japan." It is the oldest surviving Chinese map known to use the term "Sea of Japan." However, this map does not have much significance because it was a translation of a map made by a foreigner living in China. In addition, it is believed that the production of the map was influenced by information obtained from Japan rather than from Korea. This map did not have much impact on subsequent Chinese maps. The next time the term "Sea of Japan" appeared on a Chinese map was about 1875. Russian maps of East Asia were all created after 1639 when Russians first arrived in the Pacific coast region. In 1687, Nic Witzen's "Noord en Oost Tartarye" refers to the East Sea as "Oceanus Orientalis." N. Goman's 1725 map uses the term "Eastern Ocean," and in a 1734 map, I. Kirilov refers to the East Sea as "Vostochnoe," meaning "east sea." The Map of Asia printed by the renown Petersbourg Academy of Sciences in 1745 also refers to the East Sea as "Koreiskoe Mope," or "Sea of Korea." Other famous maps printed in Russia from 1745 to 1791 use the term "Sea of Korea." Adam Johann von Krusenstern (1770-1846), the Russian who explored the East Sea called it the "Sea of Japan" as did the French explorer, La Perouse (1741-c. 1788), who explored the East Sea in 1787. However, the Russians called the East Sea the "Sea of Korea" in their last officially published map of 1844. Thereafter, it appears that the Russian Navy and numerous maps followed the European style in making geographical references. The term "Sea of Japan" was used after the 18th century in many prestigious maps made in Japan. Until 1870, even Japanese maps referred to East Sea as the "Sea of Choson." All of the following maps refer to the East Sea as the "Sea of Choson:" Takahasi Kageyasu's 1810 "Sinteibankokuzenzu," Abe Kinin's 1838 "Bankokuzenzu," Sugita Gendan's 1850 "Chigakuseisozu," Matsuda Rokuzan's 1855 "Chikyubankokuzenzu," and the 1870 "Meizikaiteibankokuyochibunzu." However, all maps published in Japan thereafter refer to the East Sea as the "Sea of Japan." From this, it can be inferred that the Japanese government directed, as a matter of policy, that the name "Sea of Japan" be used. Especially, geographical references and names were changed in Matsuda Rokuzan's 1854 map and his "Bankokuzenzu" of 1871. Hasimoto Chyozuki's 1871 "Sinseiyochizenzu" calls the East Sea the "Sea of Japan." From this, we can assume that changes were being made at about this time, because the term "East Sea" was not found in any of the Japanese maps published after 1871. Also, at about this time, references to the "Sea of Japan" began appearing in Chinese maps as well. "East Sea" in Ancient Western Maps The map which was created by Godhino de Eredia of Portugal in 1615 was the first map published in Europe to have called the East Sea as "Mar Coria" (Sea of Korea). Moreover, the East Sea is called "Mare di Corai" (Sea of Korea) in Sir Robert Dudley's 1647 "Carta Particolare della Isola de Giapone" which was made in England. The Map of Asia which appears in E. Bowen's World Atlas in 1744 and 1752 also refers to the East Sea as the "Sea of Korea." The Map of the North Pacific published by J.N. Delise of France in 1750 after his exploration of Northeast Asia also calls the East Sea "Mer De Coree." Furthermore, "Sea of Korea" appears in the first edition of the 1771 Encyclopedia Britannica. All of the aforementioned maps prove that the East Sea was widely known as the "Sea of Korea" during the 17th and 18th centuries. However, since the East Sea was referred to as the "Sea of Japan" in La Perouse's map of 1797, maps produced thereafter in Europe began to use the term "Sea of Japan" with greater frequency. However, both "Sea of Korea" and "Sea of Japan" co-existed until the first half of the 19th century. It is difficult to find out how "Sea of Japan" replaced "Sea of Korea" in the later half of the 19th century because a review of all existing ancient maps has not been completed. However, it is believed that such a replacement was a reflection of the easier availability of information about Japan than Korea as Japan's military power had expanded and the recognition of Japan had increased in the international community. "Sea of Japan" Made Official by International Hydrographic Organization in 1929 In the early 20th century while Korea was under the colonial rule of Japan, the name East Sea was eradicated from the maps of world. The eradication of references to the East Sea started when a resolution was adopted at the first Conference of the International Hydrographic Organization t establish the limits of oceans and seas and attach appropriate local names for safe navigation. A Japanese delegation attended this conference, but there was no Korean delegation. According to the resolution, the East Sea was registered by Japan as the "Sea of Japan" in 1923. No other member country raised any objection. Consequently, the 1929 Monaco Conference adopted a resolution to publish Special Publication No.23 entitled The Limits of Oceans and Seas, which was based on data collected previously, and to make this publication an internationally accepted document. Thereafter, the mapmakers of the world used the standardized names of places based on this publication and the name "East Sea" lost its place on world maps. New editions of The Limits of Oceans and Seas were published in 1937, 1952, and 1986 and to date, the East Sea remains as the "Sea of Japan." Efforts of Koreans to Reclaim East Sea on World Maps Historically speaking, the East Sea has been used for a long time not only in Korea but also in neighboring countries such as China, Russia, and Japan, as well as in Europe. That is, the "East Sea" was the established name of the sea just as the "North Sea" is in Europe, rather than being a mere reference about direction. Moreover, it would not be appropriate to allow the term "Sea of Japan" to continue to be used. Think, for example, of the Mediterranean Sea which is surrounded by many countries. In documents written since the early 1970s, many citizens and scholars have pointed out the unreasonableness of naming the East Sea the "Sea of Japan." Shortly after joining the United Nations, during the 1992 Sixth U.N. Conference on the Standardization of Geographical Names, the Korean Government requested that this incorrect usage be corrected. At that time, the U.N. advised Korea to consult relevant countries. Of course, Japan opposed any change in the name. Thereafter, at the 1994 New York and 1996 Geneva Meetings of the U.N. Group of Experts on Geographical Names, Korea made public the unreasonableness of using the name "Sea of Japan." In April 1997, Korea requested that "Sea of Japan" be changed to "East Sea" in The Limits of Oceans and Seas at the 15th International Hydrographic Conference held in Monaco. Consequently, it is expected that the 1999 edition of The Limits of Oceans and Seas will reflect Korea's request. In addition, the Korean Government continues to contact renowned map publishers, broadcasting companies, newspaper companies and magazine publishers throughout the world and to request that they use the name "East Sea" in lieu of "Sea of Japan." Rand McNally, a U.S. map company, has started to use both "East Sea" and "Sea of Japan" in its most recently published maps. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 19:28:56 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #587 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11!