From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #632 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Vol 08 : Num 632 In this issue: the_dojang: there is one definitive solution for blisters the_dojang: speaking of foot wrappings... the_dojang: Dojangs in England the_dojang: Re: Foot stuff the_dojang: Re: "Northern legs; Southern Fists" the_dojang: Hapkido the_dojang: Foot Wrapping the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "alejo mac" Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:33:44 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: there is one definitive solution for blisters and it's to try to be most off the time ( home or whatever) barefoot. the thing is that americans always have their shoes on so your feet are very delicate. anther thing does any body know if a form called in KSW kicho sool if from kuk sa nim?. The thing is that it is very different from the style of all the other forms in kuk sool and i have been wondering if it has another origin?. BTW it's not the same form as kicho hyung Alejandro ------------------------------ From: Loucat101@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:00:45 EST Subject: the_dojang: speaking of foot wrappings... well, my advice would be to tape up all aound the ball of your foot and base of your toes and aloso around the arch of your foot. I dont know why but this worked for me when i had to work on a really nasty floor. btw, does anyone have any suggestions for me...it seems that every lesson i hurt my ankle, leg or knee in some place, just on my right leg. I warm up really carefully and don't really put a lot of pressure on my right leg...but it's annoying having to sit out half a lesson every other week, so does anyone have any ideas about tubigirps, bandages etc? thanks in advance! louise ------------------------------ From: todd miller Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:16:40 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Dojangs in England One of my students is moving to the North Hampton area of England and would like to find a good WTF Taekwondo dojang. Any one familiar with a dojang in this area? Thanks Todd Miller Miller's Korean Martial Arts ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:40:16 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Foot stuff Dear Prince: "....> straight and shoes are not allowed on the training area, The last time I > have done this sort of training I developed real bad blisters.... therefore > is there a website or suggestions as to how I can wrap my feet without > compromising traction...." Too many years ago, I trained in Shudokan karate and much like you say, it was practiced on a hardwood floor and for a two hour class, a few times a week. I mention this because a regular "measure" of whether I was training frequently enough, or intensely enough was whether or not my feet would need to go through the cycle of blistering that seemed to result each time I backed off a ways on my commitment. What would usually happen is that I would get lazy and cut back on my hours or slow up on the intensity of my workouts. The result is that the underlying tissue of the sole would weaken and the toughened skin would gradually separate revealing the softer new skin underneath. The new skin would, of course blister until the entire hardening process produced the uniform bonded layers of cornified skin that could take the kind of training schedule we would demand of ourselves. Now I shared all of that to say this. If you are going to work out on a hardwood floor--- then do it. Do it consistently and with the intension of working your feet into a level of condition that will take that kind of (ab)use. In Hapkido, we tend to work out on a mat or floor with a cover of some sort. I have never gotten the same kind of conditioning on these surfaces and honestly, I bet if I had to work on a hardwood floor I would be right back at that blistering level again.The idea of training lightly, or on prepared surfaces and only occasionally indulging in a marathon session on a hardwood floor is pretty-much a recipe for injury and infection. One side note. I am a big fan of the "muscle-memory" theory, so much that I believe that not just HOW a technique is done but when, why and where a technique is done enter into the equation. My personal opinion is that by varying the surface on which you work you are sending mixed messages to your brain and muscles about how you define a combat environment. I think this is one of the reasons so many "combat-oriented" activities stress things like wearing shoes, street-type clothes, and working on harder surfaces. Maybe other people have some thoughts on this last point, yes? Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:54:47 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: "Northern legs; Southern Fists" Dear Charles: "....Moja Kwan is my philosophy of applying Jeet Kune Do concepts to Tang Soo Do....." There are so many times when I have conversed with people who have mixed various arts. One of the greatest mysteries to me, for instance, is how the folks who produced TKD ever expected to marry an art such as Karate which has its roots in Southern Chinese traditions with Taek Kyon which has its roots in Northern Chinese traditions. Its not so much a matter of techniques as it is the manner in which power is generated and channelled that I find curious. Northern Chinese traditions tend to induce power from the hip girdle, or pelvis, and thighs. Southern Chinese traditions (including permutations such as Jeet Kun Do) tend to induce power at the shoulder girdle and thorax. Teaching the use of the hips and thighs is arguably the more difficult of the two. Teaching to utilize the shoulders and thorax is markedly easier. I have, however, never found a successful combining of the two. In fact, I would go so far as to say that TKD is an excellent example of such a failure, with legions of instructors attempting to reconcile two very different approaches in one art, while debasing and deriding each others efforts in the meantime. I have not seen it successful so far and don't expect to in my lifetime. However, I would be sincerely interested to hear what successes you have had in doing this. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "Hapkido Self Defense Center" Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:20:12 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido My wife, students and I arrive back home safe and sound after the hapkido seminar conducted by Master J. R. West in Fort Wayne, Indiana. A great deal of folks from Ohio, Indiana and Illinois attended the seminar. It was indeed one of Master West's finest clinics. An exceptional workshop. I was surprised not to see many folks from Bloomington and Indy. Hopefully next time. Dr. Colup MD was his assistant, who is the same gentleman I threw around at Saturday's demo last August in Jackson. Bruce, we missed you at dinner Saturday night, you would have really liked this steakhouse! I hope to see the rest of you in Jackson March 1-3, 2002! Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:56:09 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Foot Wrapping Prince wrote: <<<>>> Coolness. I wanna "explore" different arts now, too. I feel TSD as my "mother art", but I wanna see what other arts offer. My reason for taking jujistu (Other than the fact that the guy who teaches it, uses our dojang hehehehe). I really like it so far. Both my teachers are great guys, also. <<<>> Ouwy! I remember those blisters .... eeeekkkk. But my feet developed caluses (sp?). I don't get blisters anymore, unless I don't train for long periods of time, then return ..... the blisters return .... ouchy! Sorry the tape thing didn't work :o( Tnag Soo! Dizzy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:41:40 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #632 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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