From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #636 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 15 Nov 2001 Vol 08 : Num 636 In this issue: the_dojang: Supplemental Art the_dojang: Tang Soo Do/ Ft Meyers FL the_dojang: RE: Nagoya the_dojang: Re: Hapkido and Buddhism the_dojang: ground fighting the_dojang: tkd in afghanistan.... the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:42:36 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Supplemental Art Jennifer wrote, "Wanted to run a question by you. I am a 1st Dan BB in Tang Soo Do, with 2 bum knees. Much as we like to avoid fighting, if it comes down to it, I'll probably end up on the ground. As such, I am looking for an art, such as aikido, or judo, or something perhaps, to supplement my art in the area of self defense. I have limited range of motion for squatting and kneeling, but I can do VERY little of it. What are your suggestions on arts that I can benefit from best, given my circumstances. Thanks in advance for you help, feel free to email me as well." Well, if you're specifically interested in groundfighting... Aikido would not be my first choice (or second, third...twentieth). That's all I'll say on that. Judo would be a good choice depending on the club that you find. Unfortunately, most clubs you'll find will most likely be very sport oriented, and will most likely spend most of the time on training throws (which can be hell on the knees). If you find a club, get a feel for their emphasis on ne-waza and self-defense. Groundfighting is relatively easier on the knees. Interestingly enough, the great martial artist/author Donn Draeger switched the emphasis of his Judo training from throwing to groundfighting once he reached his later years. His reason...same as yours...knees were shot. Given the choice, I would find an instructor in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for learning how to fight on the ground. The only drawback is that you may not have a black belt in your area. However, you may be able to find a training association or club run by a good purple or brown belt who is affiliated with a black belt. If you'll tell me what city you're in (or the closest major city if you live in the sticks) I'll ask around through some of my internet connections. Craig Stovall _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: bredfield Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:37:18 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Tang Soo Do/ Ft Meyers FL Hi, Do any of you know of a TSD/ SBD school in Ft Meyers or close? its for two young b-belts and a green belt who just moved to the area. thanks Bernard ------------------------------ From: "NESSWORTHY, KEN" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:40:32 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Nagoya Hi All, I'm off on an assignment to Nagoya, Japan. Does anyone know of any TSD/TKD schools in that area. Thanks in advance Ken :o) Tang Soo!! ------------------------------ From: "S. H. WEE" Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:59:00 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Hapkido and Buddhism Dear Bruce, As a Buddhist, like you, I have been pondering about the relationship between MA and Buddhism and have spent countless hours discussing the subject with wavious Buddhist scholars. Like you said. Buddhism never advocates use of violence. But when ending one life can save more lives, you have a choice to act on it. However, in Buddhism, there is no such thing as Jihad, you will not get rewarded for taking life, in fact, you will still face the consequences and might ended up in hell. Doing so, you actually prepared to give unconsitional sacrifice both in this life and after-life for the consequences of your action so that many will live. Just as in real life US, if you killed somebody pre-emptively, you will go to court, even when your action might save some innocent people. What is important is your intention, when a Buddhist kills, it has to be done without hatred, anger or joy. It is done because it has to be done, just like a lion kills for its survival. You will receive good Karma from the lives you saved and you will receive bad Karma from the lives you take. > This isn't quite altogether accurate. While I can't think of any place in > the Sutras where Buddhism advocates violence, Buddhism makes a place for it > just as it does for slavery, politics, greed, sloth and all the other ills > which man is prone to. This has nothing to do with Buddhism, rather it is the inherent weakness of mankind to (mis-)interpret religion for their own benefits. Just as Osama with his own distorted version of Islam. In Islam, you are forbidden to kill children and women even in a Jihad. Sincerely, S. H. WEE shinhoe@pc.jaring.my ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:43:45 PST Subject: the_dojang: ground fighting > Wanted to run a question by you. I am a 1st Dan BB in Tang Soo Do, with 2 > bum knees. Much as we like to avoid fighting, if it comes down to it, I'll > probably end up on the ground. As such, I am looking for an art, such as > aikido, or judo, or something perhaps, to supplement my art in the area of > self defense. FWIW... Most all fights start standing up, some fights do continue to the ground. It is always good to have some ground skills. Arts that focus on ground fighting are, among others, catch wrestling, Judo, and Ju-Jutsu (including GJJ/BJJ). Aikido would probably not be a good choice for this, imho. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:23:49 +0000 Subject: the_dojang: tkd in afghanistan.... Have a look at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/from_our_own_correspondent/newsid_164700 0/1647522.stm I'm still laughing. Donnla. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt Computer Laboratory, William Gates Building Graduate Student JJ Thompson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 OFD, U.K. tel: +44-1223-763688 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ "An eyelash! How could you be so careless!" - Jude Law, Gattaca ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 8:36:16 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #636 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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