From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #648 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 23 Nov 2001 Vol 08 : Num 648 In this issue: the_dojang: A Special Medal the_dojang: Eating Dog the_dojang: Dayton Ohio the_dojang: Re: Looking Inside the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #647 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Piotr Bernat Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:27:34 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: A Special Medal Here`s a story that made me really happy... Is it possible to be happy with a medal that wasn`t won? Sounds stupid, but... We were on the Polish Championships recently. The event was hosted by the Polish Taekwondo Union which organizes pointfighting and continuous contact matches. We won a host of medals and a beautiful trophy for the first place in team standings. There was one boy who didn`t win a medal. A 16 years old fighting in a senior division for the first time. He won two bouts and was about to fight in a quarter-finals. But his opponent didn`t show up. The referees` decision - after the prescribed one minute after the last call, the bout goes to our fighter - Cezary Adamczyk. So for the first time in his life, he has at least a bronze in the senior division. Couple of minutes later, the missing guy surfaces. He looks quite dissapointed that he lost. I don`t know the reason why he wasn`t here, but he goes to the Head Ref and asked if it would be possible for him to fight. The Head Ref comes to me and asks the same question. I ask the boy - "do you want to fight him? It`s up to you now.". The answer is simple "Of course, Sir, no problem at all". He squares off against this strong guy. He fights well. Even scores a beautiful head kick in the second round. But at the end of the match, I`m sure he lost, the other guy was simply too strong. And so the medal goes to his opponent. I still remember the look on his face when he agreed so quickly to fight. And I still remember how surprised he was when at the end of the day, the tournament host called him to the podium. As he was there, standing alone in the center of a big sports hall, he was presented with the Fair Play Award to the thunderous applause of the spectators. Even the people who didn`t know what it was all about come to ask, and after they get informed, they join the applause. So, is it possible to be happy with a medal that wasn`t won? You bet... Regards - -- Piotr Bernat dantaekwondo@lublin.home.pl http://www.taekwondo.prv.pl ------------------------------ From: "michael tomlinson" Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:56:10 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Eating Dog I've never ate dog but I've ate almost everything else, and when you think about it dog is the perfect size and structure for a medium size animal,, smaller than a deer but bigger than a rabbit,, etc. I bet it is good if it is cooked right,, and you can by the right size dog to match the occasion,, small shih tzu for a little get together,, say a big german shepard for a big luau,, I know I am being ridiculous but it does have some merit to it. Michael Tomlinson ------------------------------ From: "michael tomlinson" Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:58:43 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Dayton Ohio Yeah Ken is dating himself,, Donnie Mayes was a great player and University of Dayton is still a great college, I graduated from Wright State University out by the big military base of Wright Patterson,, I bet big Ken has flown in to that airport before to check out the alien bodies they have hidden there!! Michael Tomlinson ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:42:48 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Looking Inside Dear Wee Songsaenim: (Is this a good way to address you?) "...I am not an expert in Buddhism though I have been a monk for a few months. From what I have learned, in Buddhism, things are not as straight forward as black and white as preached by some other religion. However, as I am not a native English speaker, I do have problems to express myself clearly especially with something as abstract as Buddhism....." Of course I agree with you wholeheartedly. I have found the beauty of Buddhism to be the way it seeks to address the range of colors and various shades of gray in the Human condition rather than neatly parcel things up in dichotomies. The Order to which I belong, out of Shasta, Ca. (Order of Buddhist Contemplatives) has its roots in the SOTO Zen tradition so there is already a relationship in its heritage both to Japanese MT as well as the Chan (Chinese) and Sun (Korean) traditions. I am also in complete agreement with you that Buddhism directs that the answers to questions of conduct, morality and intent are all found inside the individual. Where I think we can push farther is by deciding that these two positions are actually not a conclusion but rather a jumping off point for further discussion. In the Western tradition of Morality, each time there is a period of warfare or conflict, some portion of the population always rises up to present the age-old question of Pacifism. Some of our people (ie. Quakers) take a very absolute position and aschew any participation in activities that would compell them to harm a human being. Others take a very Christian albeit militant position of an "eye for an eye" crusade of retribution. Buddhism teaches me to seek for the Middle Path and I work now to know what such a Path would look and feel like. How would I live such a Path in my life? How could I balance my responsibilities to such a Path....and myself...and my community...etc. As you say, the answer is within me, and it is time to know that answer so I throw the question out to know if others who practice Korean MT also wonder about what it is that they are learning and when it would be right and correct, moral to use such knowledge and material. And if I become proficient in my martial abilities, to what degree am I allowed to enjoy that proficiency, if at all, or use it to impact the patterns of the world around me? Am I allowed to interfere whenever I think circumstances merit it--- or not? Have I abdicated my responsibility if I choose NOT to act when perhaps circumstances DID merit action? I could go on but I honetly think that these are questions that need to be addressed in each and every school, in each and every class, in each and every heart. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "Michael Choi" Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:58:52 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #647 True, eating a stray dog has a higher probability of parasites. I've never heard of a Bo shin tang parasite epidemic while I was in Korea. Mr. Al Burreseis right. Because the southern half of Korea was known for its agrarian culture and the summer in Korea is particularly humid, farmers were physically exhausted by the end of the day. In the summer, the weekly temperature cycle in Korea is 2 or 3 day hot then 2 days cooler. So, on the really hot days when there's a lot of heat exhaustion, the farmers eat either bo shin tang or sam gye tang at the end of the day to replenish their bodies with much needed nutrients and fluid. So, yes, Ken is also right; it helps with stamina. Michael ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:49:09 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #648 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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