From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #654 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 27 Nov 2001 Vol 08 : Num 654 In this issue: the_dojang: The Banks Change .... [The_Dojang-Digest V8 #652] the_dojang: Eyes and knives the_dojang: Grandmaster Daniel Rogers passes away the_dojang: the hanbok the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1000 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcel Mason" Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:17:37 -0000 Subject: the_dojang: The Banks Change .... [The_Dojang-Digest V8 #652] From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:00:35 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The banks change but the river remains the same. > Fergitit. Pay your nickel and take your chance, and may > God's Grace be with you. What you want to do has actually > very little to do with TKD. It does, however, have a > whole lot to do with whose turf you find yourself > standing on when you get to the new school. I'm gonna make the assumption that you've had a negative experience somewhere along the way, yes? From the reading of this, and one other TKD based list, I get the impression that I've stumbled into a fairly political sport - frankly I have no interest in that aspect of it and almost everything you noted in your reply was based on just that. If the first school turns out to be run and populated by unreasonable dickweeds there are probabily other schools although I find it difficult to imagine a dojang full people such as you seem to have described having much longevity. Why is it (from Dave Weller's reply) that there is no 'carding' until BB level? At the competition level this would seem to create some problems. MDM Have you seen http://www.norada.com/tour ? ------------------------------ From: "Patrick L" Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:45:23 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Eyes and knives All, There have been posts lately that relate the story of the woman losing an eye trying to block an arrow, and of kicking apples off knives . . . Such is the danger of students teaching themselves. The popular attitude that encourages student to blaze his own path in MA must take some responsibility. Most old school teachers know the "secrets" to many of these stunts. But more importantly - they know that if they don't know the secret - Don't try it! Getting in the WAY, Patrick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:52:27 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Grandmaster Daniel Rogers passes away HapKiDo Grandmaster Dan Rogers, who was a member of this digest, passed away Saturday morning. His funeral was yesterday(Monday) in Lafayette, LA. Our condolences go out to his family. Mac ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:59:03 PST Subject: the_dojang: the hanbok From korea.com. About Hanbok A subtle and stylish traditional costume. Hanbok, traditional Korean clothing, represents the culture. The basic items of hanbok for men are pants, a jacket and durumagi, while women have a jacket and durumagi. The structure of hanbok was simplified after the Korean War. People still wear hanbok at ceremonies and weddings and on holidays. Reformed hanbok is popular today because it is very comfortable. What Makes Hanbok Special Comfort and beautiful curved lines The curved lines of the sleeves and the straight lines of the pants bring out the beauty of hanbok. It is comfortable and the design allows people to move around easily. Depending on how you care for your hanbok, it should last for a long time. The patterns and decorations normally have specific meanings. History of Hanbok Clothing with a long history and tradition There were two kinds of traditional Korean clothing. They were the pants, jacket, skirts and durumagi that were worn in colder areas and the Chinese garments. Present day hanbok was designed based on the costumes of the royal Chinese court and on traditional Korean clothing. The Three Kingdoms Period, The Unified Silla Period and The Goryeo Period [BC 57~1392] During these periods, both men and women wore jackets with pants and dopo which is similar to the present day durumagi. The jacket was long enough to cover the hips and the waist sash and pants were narrow for practical reasons. Women wore long skirts on top of the pants as protection from the cold. They also wore underskirts starting in the Unified Silla period. During the Goryeo Period, court costumes were influenced by Chinese costumes. Jackets were shorter and did not have a waist sash. This was also the time when cotton was discovered. This proved to be a turning point for hanbok especially for people who could not afford silk. Joseon Dynasty [1392~1910] Royal Court costumes were inherited from the Goryeo Period, but were required by law during the time of King Seongjong after the court law book, Gujoory, was completed. In later years, after the Japanese invasion of Korea in 1592 and the Chinese invasion in 1636, the style of the clothing became more simple and practical. These changes can be seen best in court costumes. The colors, patterns and decorations used in the clothing of commoners were very restricted in order to differentiate it from the clothing of high officials. Under the influence of realism, the gap between the clothing of high officials and that of ordinary people was closed. Women's costumes changed and they began to wear short jackets and full skirts in order to highlight the beauty of hanbok. After Enlightenment [1910~] At the time of the enlightenment, clothes were a Chinese and western mix. Since western culture was adopted, men in the city have worn suits and women dresses. Women began wearing pleatless skirts with reformed jackets for practical reasons. After the restoration of independence in 1945, the Japanese restricted the dress of the people, and people went back to wearing traditional hanbok. Due to American influence after the Korean War, suits slowly began to replace hanbok. Basic Hanbok Jeogori Jeogori is the top portion of hanbok that is worn over the pants and skirts. A woman's jacket has a loop that can be tied in a bow and multicolored stripes on the sleeves and coat strings. Men have buttons instead. Pants Pants served as the men's lower garment even before the Three Kingdoms Period. For the most part, they were wide and were worn with a waist sash and pant-leg ties. Women also wore pants underneath their skirts. Skirts This lower garment for women is noticeable because of its beautiful curved lines. Skirts are basically a one-piece dress with a shoulder stripe and creases at the hem. The hem was worn to the left. Magoja This is a Korean jacket worn over the upper garment. It is similar to a jacket without a collar stripe and is fastened with buttons. It was worn for protection from the cold and for style. Durumagi This was worn on top of the jacket as a protection against the cold in earlier days. However, people wear it as a coat today or on outings. A scarf is often worn with it. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:59:35 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #654 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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