From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #680 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 13 Dec 2001 Vol 08 : Num 680 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Firearm education the_dojang: 16th International HapKiDo Seminar the_dojang: Atkins the_dojang: Sumo Basho ? the_dojang: Failed Color Belt Test? the_dojang: Re: Color belts the_dojang: thanks everyone the_dojang: RE: Failed Color Belt Test? the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #675 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:49:02 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Firearm education Dear Mark: "... How many of you instructors include firearms skills other than disarms (anything from safety to operation to tactics) in your martial programs?...." My program is traditional Hapkido so I would not say that firearms has a place in it, strictly speaking. I also teach for a junior college so there are certain issues which might arise with the community and the administration if I attempted to introduce firearms familiarization within the context of the course that I teach. Having said that, let me now say that it is my personal belief that the care, keeping and use of both knives and firearms needs to be an integral part of the educational process of each of our students. Though I am a gun-owner myself, please note that I am NOT advocating either gun ownership or knife ownership nor am I mandating its use or ban. I am only stating that there is more death and injury from firearm and knife misuse and that rather than avoiding their use, or banning their ownership perhaps we should work harder to de-mystify them. In a way, it a bit like the use of alcoholic beverages or sex or automobiles which seem to create more problems the more society imbues them with a certain mystique. As an educator I have seen that once people begin to understand that a gun, itself, is not "security" or "power" but just a tool that needs to be kept clean and in working order and secured like anything else it seems to lose a lot of its romance. IMHO. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "J. R. West" Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:18:02 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: 16th International HapKiDo Seminar March 1st - 3rd seminar I have just finalized a deal with the Clarion Hotel at the Fairgrounds in Jackson, MS (next door to the coliseum). We will be conducting the Saturday portion of the clinic at the Hotel, but the Friday and Sunday portions will be at the DoJang. The Clarion was owned by the same friend that owned the Hilton where last years clinic was held, and his attention to detail is very obvious in the Clarion, which was his flagship hotel at the time. The guestrooms at the Clarion will be $69 single or double (or whatever) and includes their breakfast buffet, and their number is 601-969-2141 with the contact person being a Ms. Loflin. I will send out the flyers next week, and I ask everyone to PLEASE insure that you and your students stay at the Clarion in order to insure its' availability in the future.......Thanx in advance ...JRW ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:28:03 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Atkins Jack writes: > did you have a hard time staying with this? Any ill effects? What > would you reccomend instead? How much did you lose and how much stayed off? Hello Jack: This diet seems to fit my natural needs of eating meat, and I had no ill effects whatsoever. After the first few weeks of really watching my eating habits, I lost about twenty-five pounds. It stayed off until I changed back to my traveling habits with fast food and too much (rye and) coke. In other words, I did it to myself. Now I am settled down into a more stable routine, I will go back to it again (after the holidays:). Sincerely, Rudy ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:20:03 PST Subject: the_dojang: Sumo Basho ? Anyone attended a Sumo Basho in Japan? If so, any comments on the experience? Thanks. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:55:10 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Failed Color Belt Test? Wow! busy DD this time. I'm catching up. Sorry for the late responce all. Danny wrote: <<<>>> Oh yea. I seen color belts fail. When I was a white belt (in TSD), I saw someone fail and it scared the poop outta me. It made me REALLY nervous, because I thought I would have failed too. Thank God I didn't lol. Then when I was testing for my green belt, a purple belt was testing with me. She couldn't remember her forms. It might have been nerves, but she failed for it. <<<>>> I seen a guy in my other school like that. He was "supposed" to be a brown belt (4th gup) at the time. I was a orange belt (I think), and I was better than he was! I'm not bragging or anything either. He was just down right sloppy! I donno why my instructor kept passing him and another guy, cause they had no technique at all. I still haven't figured that out. Dizzy. White belt TKD (was 5th gup TSD) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:57:07 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Color belts >And on the subject of the red belt, I need some advice. Every time I work >with this girl (she's the only one close to my height and weight) she refuses >to fall In my experience, falling can be a difficult part of Hapkido training. Some people have a strong fear of nakbup; their fear is much greater than any actual pain they might receive from doing it, and as a result when they fall they tense up and either try too hard or not enough, and they can end up taking some very painful falls which reinforces their fear and prevents them from putting in the practice time they require. Personally, I'd never push anyone to do anything they really don't want to do, no matter how sure I am that they're ready, but I'm only a 1st Dan and my instructor would know more about each individual student and how far they can and can't go. I'd been out of Hapkido for about eight years the last time I came back and I realized I wasn't going to get much mat time with my instructor or the senior blackbelts unless I learned how to fall, so after each and every class I asked one of the seniors to throw me around. For the first few weeks I was black and blue, under-rotating and landing on my hip or butt or choking up at the last minute and ending up with a very sore wrist, but I got right up and demanded more. I was tired of being afraid of it and I was going to learn how to do it right and not fear it. Eventually I got fairly comfortable with it. It's the thinking about it that hurts you. When my instructor does a technique HE'S the one doing all the work so as long as you're somewhat comfortable with the falls you're going to be OK. I don't know; is a Hapkido sunsu who can't fall a Hapkido sunsu? To paraphrase Elcis Costello, you've got to do it 'till you get through it, so you better get to it. Jesse ------------------------------ From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:36:40 +0000 Subject: the_dojang: thanks everyone Thanks for all your informative and interesting answers people. BTW my friend from Nevada currently lives in the UK, where of course, he can't carry his gun. He complains about this a lot, hence the argument I had with him (gun ownership in this country doesn't extend to literature students walking around town :-). Donnla. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt Computer Laboratory, William Gates Building Graduate Student JJ Thompson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 OFD, U.K. tel: +44-1223-763688 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ "An eyelash! How could you be so careless!" - Jude Law, Gattaca ------------------------------ From: "Lasich, Mark D." Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:18:24 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Failed Color Belt Test? Well, if I remember correctly, I have failed EVERY test *at least once* that requires board breaking! Frustrating, you bet. Problem with the boards/holders? No, just me - MENTAL BLOCK every time. Practice is fine - even breaking more boards than required at testing. Nervous at testing? No more than normal, BUT. Yea, I got disappointed with myself, but I grew to realize that I DID KNOW how to break. So, other than performing at testing, I was already at that next belt level. This way of thinking helped me come to terms with my on-going testing ability, and become more comfortable with ME, and not the outward appearance that OTHERS have of me through the color/rank belt I wear. Now years later, the quest for rank is nearly gone, but the desire to keep learning and to help others achieve their goals, well, that's a feeling that no rank around my waist could ever replace. In the spirit, Mark mark.lasich@alcoa.com ------------------------------ From: "Marcel Mason" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:20:32 -0000 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #675 I think someone would have to be having a really off day or be extremely lazy to fail a colour belt test at our club. Our Instructor has made it very clear that people will not be given the opportunity to test unless they are ready. I suppose if one of the students took that the wrong wany and was lazy during the test they would get held back but so far that has not happened. M - --------------- Original Message Follows ------------------ From: DDODGE2 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:17:05 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Failed Color Belt Test? Hello All, After reading the posts about nervousness before color belt testing I was just wondering if anyone here has ever failed a Color belt test? (excluding BB testing of course). ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 8:25:20 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #680 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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