From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #684 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 15 Dec 2001 Vol 08 : Num 684 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: high kicks and damage the_dojang: Free trips the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #681 the_dojang: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #683 the_dojang: Firearms training the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Beach Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:06:32 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: high kicks and damage Just a quick thought... One of the reasons that people participate in MA is self defense/protection. If we are beating ourselves up (read injuries etc.) isn't the the whole exercise counter productive? Why wait for someone else to beat you up when you can do it to yourself for a small monthly fee plus belt testing costs. Bruised and battered but can't get enough, Brian ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:02:26 PST Subject: the_dojang: Free trips English-Speaking Foreigners Invited to Free Train Trips December 14, 2001 Some foreign travelers and expatriates often grouse about South Koreas unfavorable travel conditions, such as the language barrier and lack of low-budget lodgings. Those factors even force them to give up traveling to provincial locations packed with scenic and historic sites. The Korean National Railroad (KNR) appears to have a solution to the matter, as long as you hail from English-speaking countries and love to make friends, especially with Korean elementary and junior high school students. We invite foreigners who speak fluent English to take free train trips to historic sites nationwide along with Koreans, said Lee Chon-se, a KNR official. The state-run train service provider plans to operate a special tour program from Dec. 26 till Feb. 27 next year. Under the program, local citizens and foreigners will be able to make the joint train trips to well-known cultural and historic sites across the nation. All you have to do is speak English, and make friends with Koreans, said Lee. A foreigner and six locals will be grouped together for each trip. There are two courses, both of which start in Seoul. One is a three-day trip to the southern port city of Busan and Gyeongju, capital of Silla Kingdom (57 B.C. 935). The train will run twice a week. The other option, lasting five days and available once a week, includes Buyeo, capital of the Baekje Kingdom (18 B.C. 660), Namwon in North Jeolla Province, Chungmu in South Gyeongsng Province, as well as Gyeongju. The program is expected to provide foreign participants with the opportunity to visit Koreas historic sites without worries over costs and other unfavorable tour conditions, said Lee. He added that local participants, especially children, would have a great opportunity to practice their English while traveling together with the native English speakers. Locals have to pay 339,800 won for a three-day trip and 595,600 won for the five-day trip, which will cover all costs, including train tickets, meals and lodgings at condominiums. However, foreigners can take part in the tours free of charge on a first-come, first-served basis. For detailed information including timetables, you can visit the KNRs Website about the trips, www.english-train.com, or send e-mail to webmaster@english-train.com. ------------------------------ From: Tyranmarla@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:27:27 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #681 I have a question that maybe everyone can answer, all replies are welcome. I just passed my rank test last week from white belt to orange belt. Now in the advance class the sparring is a little harder, faster, and tougher. I was sparring with a green belt, and he really beat me up. I fell to the ground because it felt as if my shoulder was pulled out of place by his power blows. I was checked out and it turns out that I am OK, just very bruised, sore, and a little humiliated. My question and comments is: Why didn't the assistant teacher stop the sparring matches? How come no one helped me but a black belt who thought he injured me? Why didn't the class comment at the end regarding sparring? I thought that you sparred according to your opponents rank? My spirit is really low, not looking for sympathy, just answers. Thanks ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:36:06 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Michael writes: > The weight gain is due to my own disgust and inactivity with my injuries and > not at all a reflection of the eating regimen Hello Michael: I had the same problem after my (work related) back injury. Just could not do enough activities to keep off the pounds. Rudy ------------------------------ From: DrgnSlyr5@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:52:15 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #683 In a message dated 12/14/2001 5:40:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > This will give us all a chance to get together socially > although I am sure Taekwondo will still be the topic of conversation at > many tables unless wives or significant others demand more well rounded > conversation. Spouses or significant others should understand that MA social gatherings invariably entail some MA discussion of one type or another. If they can't handle it, they should stay home, rather than have their poor attitude dampen the occasion for their partner and others at the table. If the MA knows their significant other resents the MA emphasis, they would be doing everyone a favor to leave them at home. Sharon ------------------------------ From: Victor Cushing Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:02:40 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Firearms training At 09:11 PM 12/14/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > Interesting discussion so far but, without substance. > >Miguel, "Same to you fella". We weren't trying to write the definitive text on the subject, we were just answering a question. Perhaps a bit of respect would go a long way. If you have things to add to what was said, that is productive. Starting your comments by telling those of us who have been there that we are full of it, is not. Vic ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:02:29 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #684 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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