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Encyclopedia of Dim Mak by Earle Montaigue (ABurrese@aol.com) 2. LINE (ABurrese@aol.com) 3. International Hapkido seminar (Hapkido Chung Do) 4. Gojoseon (Ray Terry) 5. Re: ITF Split (Robert Martin) 6. Re: Major General Choi in Denver (Robert Martin) 7. thoughts? (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:07:59 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Encyclopedia of Dim Mak by Earle Montaigue Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Has anyone read the two books by Earle Montaigue "Encyclopedia of Dim Mak". Any info on them and the Author would be helpful. Thanks Chris Hi Chris, The first time I sent this, it didn't go through. Probably due to the change over in list servers. I have both of these books, but I have not read them through cover to cover. What are you interested in specifically? Earle has a web site as well, but I don't know the URL off hand, but it should be pretty easy to find. Let me know how I can help and I'll pull them off the shelf and let you know what I can. I'm finally catching up on a back log of posts. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:28:39 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] LINE Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net A while back someone asked about LINE, (linear infighting neural-override engagement) For references on this system, you can look at "U.S Marines Close-Quarters Combat Manual" published by Paladin Press and the three-video-set "U.S. Marines Close-Quarters Combat: The Video Series" While the book does not give credit to any author, the videos feature Master Sergeant Ronald Donvito (Ret.) who developed the system. According to the video package, he developed LINE after decades of martial arts experience and research of the human body's vital points. It is a system that incorporates basic strikes, kicks, some joint-locks etc. I'm not sure what martial arts he took the material from, but it appears that it comes from some karate/judo/ju-jitsu type background, with some WWII combatives type stuff thrown in as well. I have not watched the tapes for a long time, and when I did it was just a quick review of them. They have been on the list to watch over and possibly review for a long time. Nothing really "new" that you don't find in other places. Some of what is taught I like and teach similar things in my teaching, some of the things taught I prefer different measures in similar situations. (Example, I'm not a big fan of the ax kick type heel stomp finishing move that is taught) >From what I have heard, this system is not being taught to Marines any longer. I don't know for sure. I have heard some people bad mouth the system as well. When it comes down to it, it's the training you do and the attitude you take into combat that will do more for you than the system. And remember, the goals of military members in combat are quite different from the person looking to defend themselves from a possible attack. I know the book has stuff on bayonet fighting and sentry removal, things you really don't need outside of the military. Hope this helped with your inquiry regarding the LINE system. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Hapkido Chung Do" To: "Sang Moo Kwan" Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:09:18 +0100 Subject: [The_Dojang] International Hapkido seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sin Moo Hapkido Seminar April 12th, 13th and 14th ,2002 Three great days of training! with Grand Master of Hapkido Yung T. Freda 9th Degree Black belt Hosted by: Rony Dassen, 6th Degree Black belt Sin Moo Hapkido and Kris Engelen, 2nd Degree Black belt Hapkido from the Belgian Sin Moo Hapkido Association in coordination with The World Sin Moo Hapkido Association THE SEMINAR INCLUDES: =95 SELF DEFENSE TECHNICS =95 KICKING TECHNICS =95 LOCK EN THROWS =95 COUNTER TECHNICS =95 WEAPON TECHNICS =95 MEDITATION AND POWERMEDITATION =95 ETC. THE SEMINAR CAN BE A GREAT EXPERIENCE TO ALL MARTIAL ARTISTS OF ALL KIND OF STYLES For more information, see attachment --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:34:54 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Gojoseon Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From http://www.korea.net/learnaboutkorea/aboutkorea.html Ray ===================== The people of Gojoseon or the oldest kingdom of Korea are recorded as Dongi, "eastern bowmen" or "eastern barbarians." They propagated in Manchuria, the eastern littoral of China, areas north of the Yangtze River, and the Korean Peninsula. The eastern bowmen had a myth in which the legendary founder Dangun was born of a father of heavenly descent and a woman from a bear-totem tribe. He is said to have started to rule in 2333 B.C., and his descendants reigned in Gojoseon, the "Land of Morning Calm," for more than a millennium. When the Zhou people pushed the Yin, the eastern bowmen moved toward Manchuria and the Korean Peninsula for better climatic conditions. They seem to have maintained unity, as China's great sages, Confucius and Mencius, praised their consanguineous order and the decorum of their society. The eastern bowmen on the western coast of the Yellow Sea clashed with the Zhou people during China's period of warring states (475 B.C.-221 B.C.). This led them to move toward southern Manchuria and the Korean Peninsula. There were other tribes of eastern bowmen, the Yemaek in the Manchurian area and the Han on the Korean Peninsula, all of whom belonged to the Tungusic family and linguistically affiliated with the Altaic. When Yin collapsed, Gija, a subject of the Yin state, entered Dangun's domain and introduced the culture of Yin around the 11th century B.C. Then came the invasion of Yen in the northeastern sector of China, and Gojoseon lost the territories west of the Liao River in the third century B.C. By this time iron culture was developing and the warring states pushed the refugees eastward. Among the immigrants, Wiman entered the service of Gojoseon as military commander with a base on the Amnokgang (Yalu) river. He drove King Jun to the south and usurped power. But in 109 B.C. the Han emperor Wu-ti dispatched a massive invasion by land and sea to Gojoseon in the estuary of the Liao River. Gojoseon was defeated after two years and four Chinese provincial commands were set up in southern Manchuria and the northern part of the Korean Peninsula. Not long after the establishment of the four commanderies, however, the Korean attacks became fierce and the last of the commanderies, Lolang (Korean: Nangnang) was destroyed by Goguryeo in 313. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Robert Martin" To: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:46:39 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: ITF Split Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Also view www.itf-generalchoi.com -- the official web site of the ITF. There is also a letter posted by GM Hwang, ITF spokesman at www.taekwon.net. Robert Martin > > ITF split? > > Interesting... See: > > http://www.itf-taekwondo.com/bulletins.htm > > Ray --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Robert Martin" To: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:50:38 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Major General Choi in Denver Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray, This will be a private event this time. Space is at a primemium. The USTF membership can fill it up pretty much on our own. Sorry about that. I would like to see these events open like the have been in the past. I tried to wrangle some invitations for some friends and it just didn't get very far. Regards, Robert Martin 4th Dan ITF/USTF > > I understand that Major General Choi is holding a seminar in Denver, > Colorado, April 6, 7 and 8. > > Any of our ITF brothers/sisters know if 'outsiders' (non-ITFers) are > permitted to either (1) participate or (2) spectate? > > Thanks. > > Ray Terry > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:04:15 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] thoughts? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Any thoughts from the ITFers (Robert?) on who will stay with Major General Choi and who will go with Master Choi? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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