Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:29:53 -0800 (PST) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #79 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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SONG Yong-ki (Ray Terry) 4. Jane Hallender (Ray Terry) 5. Train station (Ray Terry) 6. History (Ray Terry) 7. Re: Kuk Sool Won Hyung's (richard kolyer) 8. Where can I learn accupressure? (Sun Mu Kwan-USA) 9. Vote (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:55:11 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Books and Hapkido History Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net On the subject of Hapkido not being a style and having no set curriculum I would suggest that anyone in doubt of this buy the Hapkido Bible volume 1,, this book is set forth as the "original" Hapkido curriculum from GM Ji Han Jae,, if you look at the techniques in this book and then you go thru the effort to seek out GM Ji and actually get on the mat with him and learn Sin Moo Hapkido you will see exactly where this Hapkido Bible came from, these techniques were in place and being taught by GM Ji way back in the early 60's,,, This IS the original curriculum!! Hapkido Bible 2 is a great book but it is basically the later version of Hapkido as it is compiled by Dr. He Young Kimm,,, if you want to see the original Hapkido buy Hapkido Bible 1, and if you want to see a revised version as set forth by Dr. He Young Kimm then buy Hapkido Bible 2, or do the best thing and get them both,,, having worked out with GM Ji I can say that Hapkido Bible 1 gives me painful flashbacks everytime I thumb thru it. Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:58:25 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Gary Pointer Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Pointer, Very interesting historical info you have on the KHF and the instructors, I have nothing but respect for the KHF, by the way, I have friends in Connecticut who practice martial arts, I see you have been teaching Hapkido for many years,, where is your dojang located in Hartford, and how would I get there? Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:06:24 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] SONG Yong-ki Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net FWIW, I just now asked Gm Ji if he knew a Hapkido or Yawara man by the name of SONG Yong-ki. He did and indicated that SONG Yong-ki was a former student of Gm Ji's. I believe that Gm Ji was born in 1936. He indicated that SONG Yong-ki was about 5 years younger than him. So that would make SONG Yong-ki born ~1941. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima), policedo@martialartsresource.net (Policedo) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:16:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Jane Hallender Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net received in the mail. ??? Forwarding. Gene Ching Associate Publisher Kungfuonline.com Jane Hallender Doc Fai Wong's people just contacted our Ad director Andy Ching about the passing of martial arts writer Jane Hallender. Jane was one of the pioneer writers, one of the earliest women to publish articles about the martial arts, opening the door for many women writers to follow. Her legacy is an immense contribution to the field and her presence in our community will be sorely missed. For those of us who knew Jane, the loss is immeasurable. Our sympathies to her friends and family. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:53:49 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Train station Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: Korea Opens Train Station Close to Border With North February 13, 2002 PAJU, South Korea briefly reopened a train station near its border with North Korea on Tuesday, allowing hundreds of elderly South Koreans to travel by rail to a stop that had been closed since the 1950-53 Korean War. Many of the 650 passengers have not seen relatives in North Korea for more than half a century. Some wept, bowed in the direction of the North and wrote messages such as "I hope unification comes soon" on the railroad ties at Dorasan Station. The 85-minute trip from Seoul was organized to celebrate the first day of the Lunar New Year, but it was also a reminder of the decades-old divisions that remain entrenched on the Korean peninsula. Dorasan is the last train stop outside the Demilitarized Zone, a buffer zone between the Koreas that is lined on either side by fences, minefields and heavily armed troops. The station, near Paju city, is two kilometers (1.2 miles) from the DMZ. "I was so excited to go one step closer to North Korea, where I left behind my parents," said 68-year-old passenger Chang Duk-man, who fled to the South during the civil war. "My parents must have passed away now, but today's trip gave me hope that maybe we can reach Pyongyang next time," Chang said. At Dorasan Station, Unification Minister Jeong Se-hyun urged North Korea to accept a South Korean proposal to arrange another round of temporary reunions of separated family members. Three rounds were held after the 2000 summit. South Korea proposed last month that reunions be held around the Lunar New Year holiday, but the North did not respond. "I eagerly look forward to chances under which people can travel to their hometowns and pay respect to their ancestors by taking the inter-Korean railway," Jeong said. North and South Korea agreed to reconnect the cross-border railway during a historic summit in June 2000, and the South hoped to complete the project by last year. But inter-Korean reconciliation projects stalled amid U.S.-North Korean tension that escalated the following year. The railway would reconnect the two Korean capitals, Seoul and Pyongyang, and would be the first direct transport link since the Korean War. It could also boost trade, allowing South Korea to export goods to Europe by land rather than on more expensive sea trade. The state-run Korean National Railroad said the visit to the station was a one-time event, but said it might arrange similar trips on other major holidays. South Korea has finished removing mines and leveling ground outside the DMZ as part of its work on the railroad. But any work inside the DMZ would require collaboration between the armed forces of both Koreas. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:12:11 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] History Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > What ever happened to the rest of the Royal Family? Is there anyone who > can or does have the right to claim themselves as Emperor of Korea? Good question. Anyone know? Given Syng Man Rhee was active in Korean politics way back in 1918, any connection with the Yi's (Lee's/Rhee's) of the Choson Dynasty? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:50:21 -0800 (PST) From: richard kolyer To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Kuk Sool Won Hyung's Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sir, Good question. I cannot say anything about Ki Cho Hyung other than as a TKD BB I found the jump turning crescent kicks a bit advanced for white belt level. With regards to Guhm Moo Hyung I can offer only this... "Guhm Moo Hyung is an adaptation of a weapon form from Ancient Korean history....Many of the moves in Guhm Moo Hyung represent knife throwing, stabbing, blocking, and slicing techniques. These techniques were widely used by the Royal Palace bodyguards, especially the women who could hide the knives in their long flowing garments...." The quote is from the KSW textbook vol 2. I cannot offer any evidence to confirm or rebut. GM In Hyuk Suh would probably know about both. Here is a link: GM Choon S. Yang might also know but I believe he is not as close to the source. His link: > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 21:12:29 -0800 (PST) > From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA > To: Dojang digest > > Subject: [The_Dojang] Kuk Sool Won Hyung's > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > My first hapkido instructor taught kuk sool won > hyung's (foundational form 1-6) in which there are > 28 > different movements if I remember correctly, and > also > geum moo hyung (sword dance form). I am trying to > determine the history behind these forms. Who > invented > these forms? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:06:39 -0800 (PST) From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA To: Dojang digest Subject: [The_Dojang] Where can I learn accupressure? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I am hoping to learn accupressure at a reputable school. Does anyone know of a place in the Los Angeles area? ===== International HKD Federation-Sun Mu Kwan USA www.ushankido.org Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:35:36 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Vote Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Cast your vote at: http://www.itfhq.com :) Ray --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest