Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:49:13 -0800 (PST) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #102 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #XX - N msgs (Ray Terry) 3. Women's U (Ray Terry) 4. Re: Discipline shoes (David N. Beck) 5. Hapkido (Hapkido Self Defense Center) 6. Romance and image (Dana Vaillancourt) 7. Note to Carsten, et al (Ray Terry) 8. Korean Swords! (todd miller) 9. Conference (Ray Terry) 10. Seminar in Jackson... (J Thomas Howard) 11. ITF split (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:51:51 -0500 From: "Michael Choi" Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #93 - 7 msgs Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net There's a martial arts magazine in Korea with a directory of dojangs --mostly taekwondo, hapkido, kuk sool, and kumdo-- in the back. The name of the magazine is MARS and Moo Sool Sa by DongDaeMun Stadium sells it. Mike --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #XX - N msgs To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:13:28 PST Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Folks... Remember to update your subject lines when you reply to a msg. Thanks. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:16:09 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Women's U Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > In reply to your question regarding Hwarangdo schools in Korea. I remember > seeing a dojang near Sookmyung's Women University and Yongsan in Seoul > that had signs saying both "hwarangdo" and "hapkido." Ahh, yes, I'm familiar with that area. I'll keep an eye out for it on my next trip over. Thx. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:56:03 -0600 (CST) From: "David N. Beck" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Discipline shoes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >I ordered a pair of the discipline low-top shoes this >afternoon, and was wondering if anyone tried them before? Yes, absolutely the *best* martial art shoes I've ever tried. If you ever wear shoes on the mat, these are the ones to get. Better than Adidas, etc. David N. Beck, WATT Lead Engineer Internet: David.Beck@alcatel.com Phone: 972-519-3103 Address: MS SDVS-2, 1000 Coit Road, Plano, Texas 75075 ** Opinions expressed are not those of Alcatel USA ** --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Hapkido Self Defense Center" To: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:40:53 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net When I first moved out of Texas up here to the Midwest (USA) I went to several taekwondo schools and many of them said taekwondo, hapkido, judo on the front. Two of them on the Indiana side are associated with Ed Sells. When I walked in I told them my background and my rank and they then admitted they only knew a couple of hapkido techniques. I taught hapkido at these schools for a few years and the joke with the instructors was that they could now say the school taught hapkido. When we opened this dojang we became the only hapkido dojang in the Cincinnati area and I still get calls daily asking if we REALLY teach hapkido or is it taekwondo style hapkido (whatever that is). So Michael, I truly understand your frustration. But it getting worse and not better. As long as we pursue the idea that hapkido is indeed a true martial art and not a generic term we will persevere. But on the other hand, if we say that hapkido is a generic term we begin loosing the value of what hapkido really is. As we said back home, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem. (Just my opinion). Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul <> --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Dana Vaillancourt" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 21:59:58 Subject: [The_Dojang] Romance and image Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bruce wrote [after a liberal snip of the more relevant items in his post]: "Romance, and image, is what a lot of KMT school owners have been selling." I think you hit it on the head Bruce with this latter statement. Look at any magazine or popular Sit Com or more importantly, ads...the focus tends to be on the shallow [i.e., sex, cars, material items, the perfect body, etc.]. The American public is use to being sold things it either does not need or is convinced it does [is that redundant??]. Marketing tends to use brighter paint, people tend to use BIGGER titles, etc. I suppose it is OK if you can deliver what you promise [or is that convince them they are get what they wanted??!!]. :) Dana _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:18:22 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Note to Carsten, et al Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just a short note to Carsten and others... You may ask why I give Carsten such a hard time about Gm Dr. JB Lee and HwaRang Do. Simple... We get a ton of great info from him when someone (and I'm not hesitant to play the bad-guy) pushes his buttons. Yes? If I take it too far, I try to remember to apologize. Sometimes I remember, perhaps sometimes I forget. But you must admit, once -we- get Carsten going we get a lot of very useful references out of him about Gm Lee's fine art of Hwarang Do and the historical events of the MAs in 1960s Korea. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:10:46 -0500 From: todd miller To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Korean Swords! Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Korean Wae Gum (Japanese Style) Swords are different from Japanese swords of the same style! I have 8 Korean Style custom made swords and they are larger and a bit straighter than the Japanese counterparts! The basic design is the same though! ALL KOREAN SWORD ARS have deep relations to the Japanese sword arts and this FACT is not disputible!!! Master Todd L. Miller Korea Jungki Hapkido & Guhap (Iai) Do assc. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:04:30 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Conference Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: To mark the establishment of Korean Studies in Cambridge and to promote research into the contemporary international relations of East Asia, the University of Cambridge, through its East Asia Institute, intends to hold a major international conference on the international relations of the Korean Peninsula in April 2002. The conference will run over three days, from April 3rd to 6th, involving some 130 participants from Europe, North America and East Asia, and will combine major addresses by leading policy makers and specialists involved in Korean affairs, with a series of extended round-table discussions focusing on the following themes: 1. Economic reform North and South and the legacy of the Asian Financial Crisis 2. Prospects for Korean Unification 3. Regional Security and the Korean Peninsula 4. Domestic Politics in the Republic of Korea In light of your long-standing professional involvement with and knowledge of Korea, I and my colleagues at the Institute would very much like to invite you to attend our proceedings. Conference Objectives The purpose of the conference is to provide a forum for discussion of the key problems currently facing the peninsula that will be relevant not only to academic specialists but also to policy-makers, business leaders, journalists and commentators on international affairs. The round-table discussions will be prefaced by three keynote addresses given by prominent international figures closely involved in Korean affairs and we anticipate participation by a number of prominent political and business representatives from South Korea, as well as possible involvement by a number of North Korean government officials. The intention of the conference is not only to analyse the contemporary situation, but also to anticipate likely trends in the immediate to medium-term future, while also (where relevant) suggesting specific policy proposals for dealing with particularly pressing issues. Issues that are likely to be of central concern include (but are not limited to): * The mechanics of political reconciliation between the two Koreas * The role of external actors - individual countries (the United States, Japan, mainland China), supranational bodies (the European Commission), and non-governmental organisations (KEDO, the World Food Program) - in resolving north-south tensions * Structural and administrative reform in South Korea and the prospects for a new 'Korean model' of economic development * International assistance and the challenge of addressing food, energy and resource (in)security in North Korea * The prospects for economic reform in North Korea * The nature of regime legitimacy in both Koreas, both historically and at present * The challenges posed by intra-Korean rivalry to regional security within East Asia Participants Speakers and panellists at the conference are drawn from a variety of areas, including academia, government and the private sector. We expect the conference to be addressed by: Stephen Bosworth, former US Ambassador to South Korea; Madame Park Guen Hye, Vice-President of South Korea's opposition Grand National Party (GNP) Chung Un-Chan, Professor of Economics and Dean, Seoul National University Other invited speakers at the conference include, but are not limited to: Chang Beom-Cho; Deputy Minister for Policy Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, ROK Norman Levin, RAND Institute, California Chil-doo Kim, Deputy Minister for Trade and Investment, Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Energy, ROK; Chung Okim, Security specialist, Sejong Insitute, Seoul, Korea Bruno Salzmann, Professor of Sociology, University of Hanover, Germany; Paul Chamberlin, President, Korea-U.S. Consulting, Inc. Wendy Sherman, former special counselor in the Clinton White House responsible for negotiating with North Korea; Ra Jong-Yil, ROK Ambassador to the UK; Senior Official [TBA], Northeast Asia and Pacific Department, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, UK; Tat Yan Kong, Dept. of Politics, School of Oriental and African Studies Dominique Dwor-Frecaut, Barclays Capital and formerly principle Korea specialist at the World Bank; Geoffrey Hawthorn, Professor of International Politics, University of Cambridge; Scott Snyder, Asia Society representative in Seoul and specialist on South Korean domestic politics; Howard Balloch, former Canadian Ambassador to the PRC and DPRK; Marcus Noland, reserch fellow of the Institute of International Economics in Washington, DC and specialist on the North Korean economy; Victor Cha, Professor in the Department of Government, Georgetown University, Washington, D.C.; Chang Ha-Joon, Faculty of Economics and Politics, University of Cambridge; Lee Chang-Jae, Director of the Northeast Asia Research and Information Center, Korea Institute for International Economic Policy; Lee, Bu-Young, Member of the National Assembly of South Korea, Grand National Party (GNP); Robert Binyon, Managing Director, CDC Capital Partners; Michael J. Green, Director for Asian Affairs, U.S. National Security Council(NSC); Junn Sung-chull, Chairman of the International Trade Commission, Republic of Korea, Vice Chancellor and Dean of the Business School, Sejong University, South Korea Ahn Choong-Yong, Professor of Economics, Chung-Ang University, South Korea; Rosemary Foot, Professor of International Relations, St. Antony's College, University of Oxford; Hazel Smith, specialist on North Korea currently based at the Institute of World Peace, Washington, DC; Aidan Foster-Carter, UK-based specialist and commentator on the two Koreas; Tony Michell, Head of EuroAsian Business Consultancy, Seoul. The conference will be followed by the annual meeting of the U.K.-Korea Forum for the Future, whose secretariat is based at Asia House, London. A number of the forum's members (drawn from business and political circles in both South Korea and the UK), are likely also to be participating in the conference proceedings. The conference proceedings will take place in the University's International Law Centre and accommodation for the conference delegates will be provided by Clare College. We hope to publish the proceedings of the conference in a suitable format - the senior editor at Curzon Press, part of the Taylor & Francis Group, has expressed strong interest in publishing the proceedings - and anticipate that this will be the first of a series of annual or biannual international events in Cambridge addressing issues of central importance to the Korean peninsula. I do very much hope you will be able to join us in an event that promises to be of major importance for scholars and specialists involved in the international relations of East Asia. I have enclosed a copy of our provisional program for the conference. Should you require further information before making your decision, please do not hesitate to contact either myself (email: jhs22@hermes.cam.ac.uk) or my colleagues: Patricia Mirrlees (+44-1223-335101; email: pw229@cam.ac.uk) and David Prendergast (email: dkp20@hermes.cam.ac.uk ). Yours sincerely, John Swenson-Wright University Lecturer Acting Director Korean Studies Centre East Asia Institute University of Cambridge --__--__-- Message: 10 To: "the_dojang" Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:45:53 -0600 (CST) From: thomcat@binary.net (J Thomas Howard) Subject: [The_Dojang] Seminar in Jackson... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just for the sake of my curiosity, who all is going to be at the upcoming hapkido seminar in Jackson? (Responses to my email, please---that way we don't flood the list. I can put together a list of who all is going to be showing up and post it, if people would like.) FINALLY, I am going to be able to make it (along with one of my students) so I'm looking forward to meeting everyone I've been reading and talking with for the past years. And I don't want to miss anyone. :) Thomas ------------------------------------ thomcat@binary.net hapkido.4t.com "If you aren't modeling what you are teaching then you are teaching something else." --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:24:05 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF split Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The ITF continues to splinter. Forwarding... February 7, 2002 In recent years, I have had to make some major decisions in Taekwon-Do for the sake of my students, my family and my love for Taekwon-Do. Some of these decisions have not been easy as they effected many people. However, these decisions are much easier made when one is able to maintain integrity and never forgetting the reason for continuing Taekwon-Do, the love of the art. Many of our students are unaware of the need or reason, for world wide leadership. They depend on the instructor to provide them with not only instruction but, leadership in Taekwon-Do matters. The responsibility of national and world wide leaders in Taekwon-Do rests on the shoulders of masters and leaders of organizations. And, this leadership must be conducted with honor and integrity. We in the United States have a unique opportunity to help shape the future of Taekwon-Do world wide. Our initiative has not gone un-noticed. As we take on this endeavor, we should never forget our responsibilities and proceed with honor. Master Choi Jung Hwa has taken on an enormous responsibility to move forward because it is the right thing to do for the good of the members worldwide and not just a chosen few. The characteristics of a true leader. My responsibility to my students, YOMCHI Taekwon-Do and my love for Taekwon-Do, dictate that I whole heartedly support Master Choi. We should not forget from this time forward, a person can make a choice to lead but, people are Taekwon-Do and Taekwon-Do has choosen the leader. Tomorrows Taekwon-Do rest in our hands today. Respectfully, Floyd M. Griffin A-7-23 ITF U.S.A. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest