Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:50:44 -0800 (PST) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #105 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. List-Unsubscribe: Status: O Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." <<--------------- The_Dojang mailing list --------------->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Discipline Shoes (Sun Mu Kwan-USA) 2. Is this good news? (Anthony or Clare Boyd) 3. HDGD founder (Anthony or Clare Boyd) 4. HDGD's popularity in Korea (Anthony or Clare Boyd) 5. need some help (Seadoo76@aol.com) 6. Re: Sword Making (Creed71963@aol.com) 7. Is the list down? (Dominic Mitchell) 8. Re: Is the list down? (Ray Terry) 9. Vital Points Seminar in TN (Ray Terry) 10. Introduction to Ssireum (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:13:33 -0800 (PST) From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA To: Dojang digest Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Discipline Shoes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Try contacting them at 1-877-323-1062 or visit their website at www.disciplinefootwear.com ===== International HKD Federation-Sun Mu Kwan USA www.ushankido.org Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Anthony or Clare Boyd" To: Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:47:31 +0900 Subject: [The_Dojang] Is this good news? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'm a bit out of the loop in North American entertainment and pop culture, living as I do in Seoul. I saw this on MSN tonight and am not sure how to react... http://www.msnbc.com/news/713677.asp?pne=msn A Martial Arts reality show by the producer of Survivor? Anthony Boyd www.stormpages.com/haidonggumdo --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Anthony or Clare Boyd" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:41:49 +0900 Subject: [The_Dojang] HDGD founder Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net A post from Sun Mu Kwan asked: "By the way, I met a Hae Dong Kumdo master in Korea last November named Kim Jeong Seong, who founded the World Hae Dong Kum Do Federation. Has anyone met him before/know anything about him?" My reply: The founder of the world Haidong Gumdo Federation is Kim Jeong-Ho. Is this the gentleman that you mean? I have met him. What would you like to know about him? Anthony Boyd www.stormpages.com/haidonggumdo --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Anthony or Clare Boyd" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:38:30 +0900 Subject: [The_Dojang] HDGD's popularity in Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray asked about the spread of Haidong Gumdo in Korea. I think it expanded very quickly in the early 90's but the rate has slowed somewhat by natural limitations of the market and the currency crisis. The hot new things are actually arts which focus solely on danjon ho-ep (abdominal breathing) and ki-gong. Kumdo is also really popular again thanks to a soap opera character and a few recent Korean films. A lot of young women are trying Kumdo. >From what I have heard, in terms of sword arts in Korea, Daehan Kumdo is the most popular. This is traditional Kendo with Korean vocabulary. Second in popularity would seem to be Haidong Gumdo. After that it breaks down into newer organizations who have yet to spread from their regions of origin. I saw a few groups at the Chungju Martial Arts festival this past summer. Anthony Boyd www.stormpages.com/haidonggumdo --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Seadoo76@aol.com Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 00:47:05 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] need some help Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net First off I want to say that I enjoy all of the posts on this great site even if I don't reply or post much myself. Thanks to all who do add so much to this list. Now for my question. I recently read a story about a young martial artist who meet an unruly person and was about to stand up to him and fight if needed. Then an old wise martial artist showed him the real way to handle this person with words instead of fighting. It was a great story and I was thinking it would be great to read at our upcoming black belt test. Only problem is I can't find it. I thought it was on here, but haven't had any luck in searching back issues. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Donna Strube --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Creed71963@aol.com Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 07:36:39 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Sword Making Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 02/23/2002 9:36:37 PM EST, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: << Many Korean style martial artists think that Korean swords MUST be straight to be authentic. With even a little research, you can soon find that this is not so. There are distinct advantages/disadvantages to the particular curvature of the blade. Some blades lend themselves more to thrusting, and others more to cutting. Personal preference as to length or curve of the blade would surely supercede any National pride the owner might have. Sincerely, Rudy >> Unlike Japan's katana and China jian, Korea doesn't seem to have a "national sword". From what little reserch I've done, Korean warriors adjusted their swords to thier fighting style, as oppose to adjusting their fighting style to fit the sword. Now, because of thier postion of being between two more agressive countries (China & Japan), they more likely took from each techniques and weapons that they thought were better then they had at the time and made them their own. The Muye Dobo Tonji mentions several different sword designs, including Katans, jians, and the single-edge, stright-bladed design commonly associated with KSW. Craig R. --__--__-- Message: 7 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Dominic Mitchell Date: 24 Feb 2002 12:55:08 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Is the list down? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have not seen a single message for quite a few days ... I wonder if I have a problem on my side or if there was really no message posted over this period. Usually when the list is down or slow Ray warns us. Cheers, Dominic. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Is the list down? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:19:21 PST Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I have not seen a single message for quite a few days ... I wonder > if I have a problem on my side or if there was really no message > posted over this period. Your "nomail" flag was set on within Mailman. That can happen one of three ways; (1) mail to you starts bouncing back, after N bounces Mailman sets your personal settings to "nomail" (2) the admin (lil' ole me) sets it to nomail, or (3) you are going to be out of town for a while and set it to nomail yourself to stop your mailbox from filling up. Based on your msg above, I suspect it was #1 that occurred. I have turned nomail off for you, else you wouldn't be reading this... So, for all others, if for some reason you stop seeing email from the_dojang go to: http://the-dojang.net [the-dojang.net URL may be working by Monday or Wednesday] -or- http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang and review your personal settings. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net, the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, policedo@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:53:50 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Vital Points Seminar in TN Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Pressure Sensitive Nerve Area's March 2nd from 10am - 2pm. Masirib Guro Steve Klement will conduct an introductory Inayan Vital Points Seminar in Knoxville, TN. The seminar is open to the public and is a "hands-on" seminar, which means you will learn how to apply techniques and will also feel them being applied to you through the training. When: March 2nd Where: Knoxville, TN Time: 10am - 2pm For more information contact Mike Barnes at: barnes@inayaneskrima.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 16:25:11 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] Introduction to Ssireum Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Introduction to Ssireum (from korea.net) History Ssireum is believed to have been practiced during the Three Kingdoms Period of ancient Korea.JJ The first official records of this contest can be found in Goryeosa (the history of the Goryeo Dynasty). According to this record, in March of 1330, King Chunghye began entrusting the major affairs of state to his aides each day so that he could practice Ssireum with an errand boy. The king was criticized for disregarding his royal duties to practice Ssireum within the palace grounds. The Chronicles of the Joseon Dynasty record that King Sejong went out to Choja Island, near Gwangju, for a pleasure cruise and held a banquet on a boat while watching his soldiers compete in Ssireum. King Hyeonjong's Chronicles record that in 1664, a servant on Choja Island stabbed his opponent out of vexation after losing a Ssireum match. A famous 18th century genre painting by the great artist Kim Hong-do, completed under the rule of King Jeongjo, vividly depicts a Ssireum match. According to other literature like Tongkuksesigi and Songkyeongji, Ssireum took deep root among the populace and became a popular form of folk recreation to relieve fatigue. At that time, Ssireum was established as part of traditional community festivals. The first modern Ssireum competition took place at the Tansongsa theater in central Seoul in October, 1912. In the early years of the sport, there were no weight divisions. As a result, a Ssireum competitor had to defeat challengers of all weights to be named champion. It usually took until the last day of a three-day tournament to determine the champion. Beginning with the 12th National Ssireum Championship in 1956, competitions were based on a weight division system consisting of a heavyweight division (over 71.3kg) and a lightweight division (under 71.3kg). In 1967, the number of weight divisions was increased to five: These were named Seojang (under 60kg), Jeongjang (under 65.5kg), Yeongsa (under 75kg), Yeoksa (under 82.5kg) and Jangsa (over 82.5kg). In 1975, this was simplified to three weight divisions: lightweight (under 70kg), middleweight (under 80kg) and heavyweight (over 80kg). The National Grand Championship was first held under the co-sponsorship of The Hankook Ilbo and the Korea Ssireum Federation in June 1959, with annual championships continuing until 1963. Every champion received a certificate of merit and an ox as a prize. Sport as Folk Festival Ssireum is not restricted to an elite group of athletes but is an indigenous folk sport that gained wide popularity among the people. Long ago, Ssireum competitions were held as an annual sporting event on Dano Day, which falls on May 5, on Chuseok (KoreaUs harvest festival), which falls on Aug. 15, and on Daeboreum, which falls on Jan. 15. The festive days are on the lunar calendar. The champion of these competitions was traditionally awarded an ox. Types of Ssireum Originally, there were two different styles of Ssireum: right-sided Ssireum, which prevailed in parts of Gyeonggi and southwestern Jeolla provinces. Left-sided Ssireum was widely practiced in Hamkyeong, Gyeongsang and Chungcheong provinces. In 1994, the Korean Ssireum Federation decided to formulate a single standard style. Following heated discussion, left-sided Ssireum was unanimously adopted as the official style to be used by all athletes. Arena of competition The area within which the wrestlers compete is composed of sand spread over a raised platform which has a height of more than 70 centimeters. This enables spectators to see the competition. The diameter of the circle is seven meters. To prevent the athletes being injured by a fall, there is a two-meter zone surrounding the sand. The sand is approximately 10 to 20 centimeters deep, but is filled so that the in-bounds area is level with the out-of-bounds zone. Satba (belt) The Satba is a loincloth-style belt worn by the competitors. It is made of a cotton cloth. Different colors are used to help identify the athletes for the spectators. The colors may be white and black, or red and blue. Length is not important but there are regulations governing the width of the Satba. Weight Classes Both individual and team competitions are conducted according to weight classifications. At the amateur level for individual competition, there are seven divisions. For professionals, there are only two, named after KoreaUs two highest mountains: Baekdu (over 100 kg) and Halla (below 100 kg). Referees There should be three officials available to supervise a Ssireum match: a chief referee and two assistant referees. The chief referee is located in the contest area and can move about during the match. His main responsibility is to determine the winner. The assistant referees are located in chairs at the side of the contest area so as to have a different vantage and thus be able to help the chief referee. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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