Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:56:14 -0800 (PST) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #151 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Loose Patience. (Richard Zaruba) 4. FMA in the DC area. (geezer883@juno.com) 5. Po Eun (Bert Edens) 6. Bruce Lee Lives (Still!) (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 7. Dr. Dong Ja Yang (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 8. [Policedo] Alliance Drug Free Martial Arts Tournament (Ray Terry) 9. HKD Seminar (Sun Mu Kwan-USA) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 05:40:00 -0800 From: F Pitt To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: TKD and television Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Although I am more of a reader than a television watcher, when I do watch TV, I never see any programs featuring TKD competitions. I saw a kick-boxing match yesterday, but it didn't help me much for my upcoming competition (I've never done one, and it will be a "point? match." Does anyone know when/where I can found some TKD matches on TV? Or are there any good videos showing how these point matches (for TKD) are done? I live in California, and I don't hear of many competitions that I can go watch. Is the sport that uncommon? Thanks for any responses. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:39:43 -0500 (EST) From: David Crump To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Indoor shoes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I've had foot problems recently. I don't have the range of motion in my two bigs toes. It turns out that I have mild arthritis. I am worried that my kicks will eventually lead to a bad injury and I was thinking about getting those indoor shoes that I see people wear. Anyone ever wear these types of shoes while sparring or working out? Does it give an unfair advantage while sparring? Not sure what else I can do...I can't keep sparring barefoot. The pain gets too unbearable and I start kicking weaker in an attempt to protect myself. Any thoughts? --David --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:43:02 -0600 From: Richard Zaruba To: , Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Loose Patience. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello, I have a comment about Tyranmaria's dilemma that does not seem to have been addressed. Everyone wants to blame the student for not learning learning, it is easier to blame the student than admitting it is your own fault. The student isn't "respectful", but they are still learning how respect is shown in the dojang, they always say "I know", and they did listen and are trying, just they are so overwhelmed with detailed corrections they can't figure out where to start fixing things. I know a number of gifted black belts that just can't or don't know how to teach. It is much like being at a university, just because a professor has Ph.D. behind her/his name doesn't mean she/he can or knows how to teach (if you have attended a university you know exactly what I mean). I can honestly say that I have never seen a course on teaching methods required for a black belt. The issues of respect, attitude, so on and so forth of the student have been covered, but what about the ability, attitude and respect shown by a black belt or instructor. I have seem black belts with so much ego it seems to have effected the blood supply to their brain. They usually can't teach and get upset with a student because the student doesn't pick it up right away and they feel it makes "them" look bad. Some instructor only quickly visually demonstrate a skill, forgetting to break it down and then say go and can't understand why no one understands, or they describe it in intricate detail but never demonstrate it, or they they have a student try it once and jump to something else and get upset when the student doesn't remember. All three basic learning tyles should be used break a skill down into small parts and demonstrate it verbally explaining how to do each part and then walk the students through practicing it themselves slowly cleaning it up so as not to overwhelm the student but correct and polish the skill. When a student is honestly putting forth an effort to learn but is not learning, it is the fault of the "black belt or instructor", not the "student". How many black belts or instructors on this list have taken the time to learn how to teach different types of students, not just said this is how I was taught and this is how I teach? I don't mean just read a book and then go back to the same way you were teaching before, but actually put forth an effort to apply the ideas and concepts. Teaching is just as much of a skill and ability as practicing the martial arts itself. Failure to recognize this fact is all to common in to many fields and the martial arts is no different. Teaching is not necessarily easy or natural, but it is rewarding to those who learn how. Sometimes we should look at ourselves and ask where the fault lies within us instead of taking the easy way out and blaming the student. Now off my soap box and back to training. Respectfully, Richard Zaruba _______________________________________________________________________ Richard Zaruba Department of Anatomy & Cell Biology University of North Dakota School of Medicine 501 North Columbia Road P.O. Box 9037 Grand Forks, ND 58202-9037 zaruba@medicine.nodak.edu 701.777.3952 office 701.777.2576 lab 701.777.2477 fax > I have a question for all the black belts on the list. > > When you are required to train a fellow student, what makes you lose patience > with them the most? Trying to get them to understand the forms? Getting them > to think? Trying to get them to concentrate? I really would like to know so > that I can be a student who is easier to train. I have asked lots of > questions about how to understand the teaching methods of SOME black belts, > and I have only been given 1 positive response. I am not thin skinned, I just > want to learn how to understand the higher ranks. > > Tyranmarla > 9th gup > TKD --__--__-- Message: 4 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:05:41 -0500 From: geezer883@juno.com Subject: [The_Dojang] FMA in the DC area. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net For Modern Arnis in the DC area check Carl Minkel of TKD/Arnis. Carl has classes on Wednesday evening in Linton Springs and does monthly seminar's at the Sports Plex in Frederick. Contact me if you have any other questions.. Geezer --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:04:44 -0600 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Bert Edens Subject: [The_Dojang] Po Eun Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Hello everyone > > The other day we were going over the I.T.F. form >Po-Eun(we do I.T.F. and W.T.F. forms. The introduction >says that his poem " I would never serve a second >master though I am crucified a thousand times" is >known to every Korean. A student asked if I had a copy >the poem. > I checked with a couple of Korean friends and >searched the internet with no luck. > Can anyone send me this poem or tell me where it >is posted? > >Thank You >Mike Greetings, sir... I was unable to find the poem in English, but I did find it in Korean. You can find it at: http://myhome.netsgo.com/mysweethome/face/mongjuJ.htm The poem is at the bottom, underneath the red text. Of course, your viewer must be set to view Korean to see it properly. I could probably translate it to English, but my Korean is still pretty rough. Perhaps one of your Korean friends could help you out... It's a traditional sijo, which means it would only be 3 lines long anyway... So there's not too much more to it than what is part of the standard definition of Po Eun. If you get a nice translation, could you kindly post it back here? Thanks! I will also check with some of my Korean friends. <> - Bert Edens 1st Degree Recommended, Level 2 Springdale, Arkansas --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:08:12 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Bruce Lee Lives (Still!) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ken asked: > Is it true Jackie Chan was a stunt man in Bruce Lee's movie, Enter the > Dragon ? Yep. Look at the fight in the tunnel. When they do the extreme close-up on Bruce and he breaks the guy's neck, the victim was Jackie Chan. You can also spot Jackie in the tunnel scene as one of the charging bad guys. Another puzzler -- can anyone name Chuck Norris's first appearance in a movie? Hint: Bruce Lee was the fight choreographer. Peace out, Dakin --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:22:51 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Dr. Dong Ja Yang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ian wrote: > Dr. Dong Ja Yang is my Taekwondo and Yudo teacher. He is based at Howard > University, Wash. D.C., where he is a professor of physical education and is > a practicing psycho-therapist. Ian, can you tell us more? I've always wondered about what happened in the early history of the USTU. Was Dr. Yang involved with the AAU Taekwondo program as was Dr. Min? How did the transition from AAU to USTU take place? Yours in the arts, Dakin burdickd@indiana.edu --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:49:10 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] [Policedo] Alliance Drug Free Martial Arts Tournament Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Cross posting from the Policedo/PMAA list. Ray Forwarded message: Dear PMAA Members: We will be hosting the Alliance Drug Free Open Martial Arts Tournament on Saturday, May 4, 2002, at the Stanton Middle School in Alliance, Ohio. This event holds both a National and Ohio State Series sanction from the Professional Karate Commission (PKC) as well as a sanction from the International TaeKwonDo Union. Special guests at this tournament will include: Action Martial Arts Movie Star Sifu Vincent Lyn and Master Tom Merritt. Sifu Lyn will be hosting a special seminar the night before for only $25.00. The Tournament has over a hundred divisions from which to choose. Competitors can compete in Forms, Musical Forms, Weapons, Sparring, Self-defense, and/or Grappling categories. Trophies will be awarded for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th places. There will be five grand champion trophies awarded for those exceptional competitors who win in the Forms, Weapon, Self Defense, and Sparring Divisions. Trophies will be issued for the most supportive schools and to the competitor who travels the furthest distance to the event. Last year this event was covered by the local media, the To Serve and Protect: The Real Story television show, and several national martial arts magazines. We expect the coverage to be no less intense this year. All proceeds from the Tournament will be used to support drug education programs; including Kick Drugs Out of Alliance, a drug education/martial arts program, of the Alliance City Schools and Alliance Police Department. On-line regisistration for this event is available from Active.Com. To obtain a registration packet please write: KDOA, C/O Alliance City Schools 200 Glamorgan Alliance, Ohio 44601. To learn more about the Tournament please follow this link: Alliance Drug Free Open Martial Arts Tournament Sincerely, Jeff Helaney Tournament Director --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA To: Dojang digest Subject: [The_Dojang] HKD Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net For those that are interested, I am organizing a Hapkido/Hankido seminar with GM Myong Jae Nam's brother Master Myong Youn Gun for sometime in early June in Los Angeles. For further information, please email me at: hankido2000@yahoo.com The seminar will either be on Saturday June 1st or Saturday June 8th. More will be posted in the coming weeks. ===== Yahoo! 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