Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:14:23 -0800 (PST) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #154 - 13 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Point matches (Chereecharmello@aol.com) 4. TKD - The Musical (Gregory Giddins) 5. Teaching is an art in itself. (Chereecharmello@aol.com) 6. Chuck's first movie appearance (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 7. Tortured tootsies (Chereecharmello@aol.com) 8. Re: Re: Re: Bulgogi (Klaas Barends (opurk.nl)) 9. A.T.A. Books (Rank set) (John Groff) 10. Re: Arthritis help (Ray Terry) 11. Re: TKD - The Musical (Ray Terry) 12. We all teach... (Chereecharmello@aol.com) 13. howdy from Texas (Braeswood Martial Arts) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Tony Preston To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:27:30 -0400 Organization: Custom Services Subject: [The_Dojang] Arthritis help Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:39:43 -0500 (EST) > From: David Crump > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [The_Dojang] Indoor shoes > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I've had foot problems recently. I don't have the range of motion in my > two bigs toes. > It turns out that I have mild arthritis. I am worried that my kicks will > eventually lead to a bad injury and I was thinking about getting those > indoor shoes that I see people wear. > Anyone ever wear these types of shoes while sparring or working out? Does > it give an unfair advantage while sparring? > Not sure what else I can do...I can't keep sparring barefoot. The pain > gets too unbearable and I start kicking weaker in an attempt to protect > myself. I can make two suggestions that might help (and probably anyone else on the list with the typical joint problems associated with tkd types). Glucosamine Sulfate (GS) is the first. I have had two ACL Patella tendon repairs and after the first (about 6 yrs ago) I asked the doctor about GS and he said it was a good idea. I used to have mild arthritic pain in my fingers of one hand, after about 3 months of GS, it was gone, it was from a joint injury a long time ago and I had just lived with it... It doesn't bother me at all now. The second is Methylsulfonymethane(MSM), this stuff is supposed to really help joint wear type arthritis. Both MSM and GS help the body rebuild the joint lining. I have read about people that have been just about totally disabled by arthritis recovering after taking MSM for a while. I had the second ACL replacement surgery almost 2 yrs ago and kept taking the GS to help my recovery. I can't help you with the shoes...:) I never used them and we generally do not use shoes or foot gear when sparring (shin pads with instep protectors are what most people use). -- -- /Tony Preston/ *Team Amiga* Linux Developer since 1993 -- SR Principal Engineer//Scientist -- Atlantic Science & Technology Inc. -- The Amiga Zone BBS 609-953-8159, Citadel 68K --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Richard Zaruba" To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:32:58 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Loose Patience Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To Ms. Skjold and everyone in general, My comments were not aimed at anyone specifically or in general. They were specific to the problems that Tyranmaria had asked about. The responses in general pointed out all of the things students were doing wrong what they should do and so on. Not one of them addressed the possibility that the fault may be that of the instructor. I addressed the "I know" syndrome because it is a common sign of a student being overloaded. I addressed the respect issue because I have seen beginning students punished because they didn't instantly become Asian and understand all of the ideas and manner respect is shown. I addressed the issue of knowing how to teach because in all honesty there are too many "instructors" who don't know how to. Regardless of whether you agree with me or not, these problems exist. I have very strong feelings about how students should be treated and instructed. I have a number of students that are now with me that were treated very poorly by other so called instructors. I am still amazed that some of them even tried martial arts again with the abuse they went through. To answer a question that I asked in my last post about myself, I have taken classes, read books, and I attend continuing education cor faculty and staff at the university I attend and teach at. I would like to add one more comment and question to my post then I will be quiet, for Tyranmaria to have come to the group and ask how she could learn better from these instructors and for her to have already asked her master instructor I would say she is quite motivated and willing to learn so the answers and comments that I made took that into account, how many other answers did also? Respectfully, Richard Zaruba --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:32:50 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Point matches Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net << (I've never done one, and it will be a "point? match." Does anyone know when/where I can found some TKD matches on TV? >> You will seldom find "point sparring" matches on TV. Your best bet is to try placing a string of words in an online search engine... Try this (the entire string, including quotations and + signs) "karate" + "video" + "free" or "karate" + "video" + "free" + "fighting" You will probably have to weed through a number of sites that are either attempting to sell videos or that offer free shipping for them...but I have used a similar string of words to find video clips...If I come across any of the sites I have been to, I will post them on the DD. Our site: www.cskimkarate.com AND www.cskimkaratebloomfield.com will have the fighting video clips up and running soon, but probably not in time for your tournament. Good Luck...Fight Smart, not Hard! -Cheree --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Gregory Giddins To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:47:14 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] TKD - The Musical Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >The non-verbal performance will mix taekwondo movements with dance motions to the rhythm of hip-hop, salsa and pop music, as well as the traditional Korean percussion music of salmunori. The presentation will also feature mime and magic.< Heck, it just sounds like most of the tournaments these days.... Add some red sequin dobahks, flash bangs, smoke and a strobe light and you have the creative forms division. (My apologies to anyone owning a red sequin dobahk) Greg G. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:11:43 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Teaching is an art in itself. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> I know a number of gifted black belts that just can't or don't know how to teach. <> >Personally I would love to know how many folks have actually taken classes to learn how to manage a class, use positive reinforcement to promote change or identify increasingly effective ways of presenting material. The more common approach seems to be to make chodan and/or win trophies and it seems to follow automatically that a person is ready to teach. I can't speak for other teachers but I know that each class I teach is a challenge and tests my ability to communicate, demonstrate and participate to the nth degree<> I agree. Teaching is an art in itself. "Those who CAN...TEACH." Unfortunately, this statement does not always hold true. Truly being a 'Teacher' requires one to posses the ability not only to master the subject material, but also the ability to relate information in a way that makes the knowledge accessible to the individual student. Over the last few years several new learning classifications have been added to those that were documented decades ago. Some students learn more efficiently by watching. Some learn by listening. Most can learn by doing. Many students experience quite a bit of difficulty when physical coordination is demanded. Many students have a strength that lies in another area besides kinesthetics. Creativity might be one such forte. It is as important to look for the students individual learning pattern as is for the 'teacher' to exhibit mastery of the subject. I suppose people often think a great Martial Artist will make a great Teacher... -Cheree --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:19:22 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Chuck's first movie appearance Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net John McIntosh wins the prize! Yep, it was the Wrecking Crew that I was thinking of as Chuck's first appearance in a movie. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one watching those horrible old movies frame by frame just to confirm the identity of the stunt men! Yours in the arts, Dakin burdickd@indiana.edu . --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:29:55 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Tortured tootsies Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Anyone ever wear these types of shoes while sparring or working out? Does it give an unfair advantage while sparring? <> I don't know if they will actually benefit you in the health department, but I generally don't like them. I find that I am thrown off balance because a portion of my foot overlaps the sole...While fighting, I also find it hard to position my foot correctly... Also, because the feet sweat a bit in the shoe, the lovely callouses I have worked so diligently to attain are jeopardized...they nearly disappear after a few sessions of wearing shoes to train instead of doing so with bare feet. I would call a doctor and explain your activity and concerns. I have mild arthritis myself. My feet have yet to bother me, but my knees do. I was told to use low weight to build muscle and to help increase the ability of my body to support itself. I also try to avoid repeated jump kicks, as the impact on my joints hurts like H-E-double hockey sticks... -Cheree --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:35:30 +0100 From: "Klaas Barends (opurk.nl)" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Re: Re: Bulgogi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I 'found' bulgogi burgers on my last trip to Korea. I always liked bulgogi, > but mixing that flavor with my favorite food group (hamburgers) was just > heaven. I found kimchi-burgers (together with bulgogi burgers, back in 1997) as well, mixing that with burgers was just as awfull as ordinary kimchi :-) Ah well, Koreans don't like Dutch stampot :-) -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "John Groff" To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:36:28 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] A.T.A. Books (Rank set) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Can anyone tell me if the ATA series of books, with each one focusing on a specific level of belt skills, are still available, or what their status is? I'm missing a few from my set. Thank you, Chaney --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Arthritis help To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 9:29:11 PST Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Also you might talk to your Dr. about Vioxx. Better living through chemistry... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] TKD - The Musical To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 9:31:39 PST Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > (My apologies to anyone owning a red sequin dobahk) Master Mac has flashy red joong bongs. And no, that isn't a medical problem. At least I don't think it is... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 12 From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:55:16 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] We all teach... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Might I add that we are ALL teachers... I am willing to bet my farm (I don't actually have one so this a a win-win situation for me) that even as a very junior belt (say, a yellow belt) SOMEONE IS ADMIRING YOU and perhaps even trying to mimic your ability. Although most people begin training with the notion that they will soon be a BB, they find rather quickly that training is difficult and they begin to develop more realistic expectations, such as working to attaining an orange belt... So remember, when you are lazy during class you are probably teaching another person to be just that... -Cheree --__--__-- Message: 13 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:19:28 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] howdy from Texas Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello to all Dojang Digest members, I am proud to be a new member of the dojang digest and wished to introduce myself. I am JKN Kat Kelly of Houston Texas, student of Kong Shin Bup under Chief Master Rudy Timmerman. I will soon be opening the first Kong Shin Bup school in Houston and I believe it will also be the first in Texas. When traveling through Houston, please drop by my dojang, Braeswood Martial Art Center. 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