Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:16:35 -0800 (PST) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #160 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Just being considerate (Bruce Sims) 3. Re: Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine Oversight (Chosondo@aol.com) 4. Re: Sparring (Andrew Gassiot) 5. RE: State Oversight stuff (Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov) 6. RE: Role of Eclecticism (Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov) 7. Re: RE: Role of Eclecticism (Ray Terry) 8. from the USTU (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:24:39 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: Dojang Digest Subject: [The_Dojang] point sparring Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Exit Lurk Mode, Be sure you are training for the match you will enter. If you instructor focusses on a LOT of basics, you probably have more muscle memory than you think and could apply it in a crisis situation better than you think. It is however, important to do something that looks like step sparring/sparring drills to get a sense of timing and distance. What most people call free sparring or point sparring gives us an idea of how all that works DYNAMICALLY with an unwilling/uncooperative partner. If you're going to do any "point" fighting training it is very important that you spar by the rules that will be applied for that match, for that reason, and a few others I can't say I'd reccommend sparring outside of class without blackbelt supervision.....However, if you and the partner are both senior students you might ask the instructor to help you train, or at a minimum advise him of your intention to prepare for a competition. getting in the way Charles Richards Moja Kwan Tang Soo Do Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:21:49 -0600 From: "Bruce Sims" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Just being considerate Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Jere: ".....PS. Bruce, you cleaned up your story from the one you told me :)...." Yeah, well, it was a choice between cutting out all of the expletives or leaving them in and frying Rays' web-server. :-) Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Chosondo@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:18:21 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine Oversight Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bruce: Actually, there is oversight. In most states (with few exceptions), graduation from a ACAOM (Acredition Commission of Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine) approved school and successful completion of the NCCAOM (National Commission for the Certification of Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine) Board certification exam and posiibily passing a state exam is the standard route to licensure. Each state has its own licensing board that govern and police the profession. Some states, however, legislatively grants titles such as OMD, DOM, D.Ac. L.Ac. and R.Ac. Bear in mind that none of these titles are earned by academic achievement except for MSOM (Master of Science in Oriental Medicine) or MSAc (Master of Science in Acupuncture). BTW, the Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine profession has the best safety record of all of the medical modalities currently available. Remember, the doctorate has become the terminal degree. So we'll be seeing legitimate Doctors of Oriental Medicine in about 3 - 4 years. I hope I have shed alittle more light on this subject. Be well. Ian A. Cyrus, Headmaster ICF --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Andrew Gassiot" To: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:39:34 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Sparring Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net For what it's worth here is what I've found to be successful, as previously stated keep it simple. Don't open with a reverse very often (used to say never), concentrate a bit on the front leg since it's closer. Use your hands more, most people don't use their hands much in TKD (please no flames). A lot of folks use their back leg since it's easier to get more power, it also telegraphs more. I tend to watch a persons chest when sparring, it helps me pick up on what they are doing, I also check their eyes often. I also do not look directly at my target, my instructor was pounding me one day and after the round explained he was watching my eyes because I would look at my target. Here are some of my favorite offensive moves. Open Stance: 1. The old cheesy twist kick to the stomach, sometimes followed by a round to the back of the head. 2. Step with a backfist high, followed by a step front leg side kick mid-section, really quick. 3. A simple drag with a side kick. 4. A simple half-step to close and a snap kick with what was/is your front leg, sometimes followed with a jab, cross, then a back leg round kick. 5. A step jump hook kick (cross between hook and axe really) to the head if the person is not that fast. Closed Stance: 3 & 4 from above! 6. A simple hook / round with back leg. Follow with backfist! 7. A few axe kicks to their guard arms to tire them down, sometimes followed by front or rounds without your foot touching the ground, or 3 punches . All of these in combination with 2-3 punches before or after. Also don't under estimate a quick jab, keeps your opponent off balance thinking, where did that come from? Depending on how I feel I'll go in one day and mostly do hands with a few kicks, then another I'll do mostly kicks, sometimes a good combination of both. I consider it a compliment when I hear the other guys saying "I can't figure out what he's going to do". Whew, this could get long quick, let me know if any of these work for you. Regards, DREW --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:14:32 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: State Oversight stuff Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Ray: "......Yes, I believe that there is state licensure. If you check the websites for some of the schools they quote what % of their grads pass the state test and receive a license to practice......" So maybe I read that wrong. What I am understanding you to say is that regardless of any academic standards, there are standards determined by the state to make sure that practitioners have a minimum set of clinical skills. To bad we couldn't get at least this much for the KMA practitioners. :-) best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:28:59 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Role of Eclecticism Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear George: ".... From then on I lost my traditional values and went eclectic. I enjoy being able to teach and be friends with those I teach....." Thanks for the candor. From where I am sitting, though, folks such as you and Richard and some others at least seek to work within a partticular range. (OK, so I am probably playing some sort of weird head game here, but work with me on this.) I am not some huge fan of eclecticism. I think it is a danger to tradition and is contra-indicated for the healthy transmission of our heritage. However, as one of the polishing stones for putting a shine on what we do, I think it is an invaluable aid. For instance, I for my part would not teach a "hay-maker" and pass it off as an integral part of Hapkido (though Long Fist Boxing has several techniques which use similar biomechanics). But I am not above teaching students how to throw a "haymaker" so as to study its weaknesses, develop timing for it and consider appropriate responses. I know there are some who will not agree with what I am about to say, but I think that what you are describing is one of the signature strengthes of KMA and KMT. Truely, there is a very distinct flavor to the manner in which things Korean sound, feel and are expressed, and, yes, there is this sense of rigidity and ultra-conservatism on the surface for all the world to see. However, underneath, in practice, there is always some part of the Korean mentality that makes room at the table for alternate material and views. The room may not be large, and it may only be transitional, and the new material better have merit! Still I think this has been a very important part of the Korean cultures' survival tools--- IMVHO. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Role of Eclecticism To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 8:44:32 PST Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I am not some huge fan of eclecticism. I think it is a danger to tradition > and is contra-indicated for the healthy transmission of our heritage. I submit, what are Hapkido and Taekwondo but eclectic arts. Can they be viewed any other way but? Just look at their amazing evolution over the last 45 or 50 years. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 8:51:49 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] from the USTU Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: Re-new your USTU membership in minutes - on-line! Our totally secure system will take your information, process your Visa or Mastercard and transmit your membership to the USTU membership office in a matter of minutes. No forms, no stamps, no post office. Take a minute and re-new your membership today! 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