Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:32:08 -0800 (PST) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #174 - 17 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: USTU registration (ChunjiDo@aol.com) 3. Re: speaking of breakfalls... (ChunjiDo@aol.com) 4. Re: Ooopppsss.. (Bruce Sims) 5. Personalized Black Belts (Bert Edens) 6. Re: Hoshinsul (ABurrese@aol.com) 7. Re: Printing hangul (Klaas Barends) 8. TKD Ho Shin Sol (Laurie S.) 9. Re: TKD Self-defense (David N. Beck) 10. RE: Weapon Origins (Dunn, Danny J RASA) 11. Studio Growth? (Brian Beach) 12. RE: ACL recon to San Lim (ericules) 13. !7th and 18th International HapKiDo Seminars (J. R. West) 14. TKD self defense/ TKD weak hands (Laurie S.) 15. fun with rice paper (Ray Terry) 16. 38th annual All American Open Championships (HenryCho@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Andrew Gassiot" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: ACL - Surgery Q & A (Andrew Gassiot - Follow Up Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:21:32 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net FYI - My ACL tear occured after a day of roofing my small barn in a Texas springtime breeze (15 MPH constant with 20 MPH gusts), that takes a lot out of you. Anyway I went to class and it turned into a sparring marathon / conditioning class, just what I needed. I was doing a front snap kick (with a drag), and following up with a jump round to the head, unfortunatly since I was already tired I did not rechamber my front kick leg well and it just snapped (hyperextended) when I landed on it. Going to class that day is one true regret, should have stayed home. > Were you able to walk within a day or two after surgery? You bet, In order to leave the "sergury pavillion" I had to walk, go down and up 5 stairs. The PT, a young "girl", weighing all of 100 pounds had this strap around my waist and told me no problem if I started to fall she could catch me. Yeah, that little strap and her here going to keep my 200 pounds from tumbling down the stairs. Those 5 steps were an exercise in terror management. It was kinda like going down stairs with speghetti for legs. So that would put me walking about 20 hours post op. My first week check up I could walk heel toe just fine, OS was impressed. I also had heel to butt flexibility in about a month and 0 to -1 degree exstension at about the same time. My other leg goes to -3 and my recon leg goes to -1 -2 now, I get it to -3 after a few days of weighted leg hangs, but it goes away pretty quick. Not a big deal. > > The procedure I am considering would require a graft from my own hamstring. > Hopefully, my hamstring is still decent enough for the job. They will cut > out one strand about 10" long, cut that in 2, and fold it in half to get 4 > strands as my replacement ACL. I hear the recovery is about the same as for PT, but it just hurts in different areas. Not many have the "privilege" of experiencing both. The PT graft is about 2x the strength of your original ACL, and hamstring is about 4x when braided, this is from memory, so I might be a bit off. Asking which is better is like asking which MA is best, strong opinions abound. > My wife works in the health care industry and we have friends who are Physical > Therapists who referred us to 2 knee specialists. The doctor I am working > with now is a sports doctor and treats a lot of soccer players. Sounds good! There are only two really painfull things that occur and they are both brief. About day three post op, when you first stand up every heartbeat sends a rush of pain down your leg. This is especially bad on those trips to the bathroom in the middle of the night. It lasts about 10-12 heartbeats when blood is rushing into your leg. The other is the extension leg hang, a PT torture technique to get your flexion back. You lay with your knee off the end of a bench with a weight on your heel to apply pressure to the ACL. That's five minutes of pain control, relaxation techniques and a bit of self hynosis can really help here. Good Luck - Fill your pain meds before the OP! I only took them a few days, but it's harder to regain control of pain after it "runs away" than to keep the edge off in the first place. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:11:38 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: USTU registration Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> i was kinda curious on the guestimated time needed to process faxed forms. not complaining....just wondering. i know theyre understaffed and overloaded this time of year especially. melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy http://www.cjmaa.com Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Toll Free: 1-877-847-4072 Proud Sponsor of the 2001 10th Annual US Open TKD Championships --__--__-- Message: 3 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:16:09 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: speaking of breakfalls... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net i've got a student who's an 8th gup. she's scared to death of breakfalls and rolls. its because she's very heavy and is fearful of injury. there is some concern of that but we use an 8 inch landing mat. she's probably about 260lbs and sometimes i think she uses her weight as an excuse not to do stuff. i want to respect her knowledge of her own limitations, yet want to push her beyond "i'm just too fat." any ideers? she has a very good grasp of other techniques (basic kicks, punches, some hoshinsul), but the breakfalls have stopped her in her tracks. thanks! melinda :) Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy http://www.cjmaa.com Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Toll Free: 1-877-847-4072 Proud Sponsor of the 2001 10th Annual US Open TKD Championships --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:35:40 -0600 From: "Bruce Sims" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Ooopppsss.. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Laurie: "....I didn't ask for bio-whatevers. I asked for self defense (in plain english) for TKD, and no, it doesn't matter what org or resourse it comes from. ANY self defense relating to TKD....." Oh. You mean "self-defense.".... and you don't care where it comes from, or who does it.... just generic "self-defense". Now I understand. My mistake. I was given to believe that there were distinct differences between say--- Bennie Urquidez and Hee Il Cho, or maybe even John Pelligrini and GM Ji (ya think?). I think what threw me was not noting your advanced level of performance which apparently endows you with some level of transcendance of which I am not aware, as well as, perhaps, relieving you of the strictures of good manners. Please excuse my ham-handed attempt at assisting you. I am, afterall, still a work in progress. :-) Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:25:54 -0600 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Bert Edens Subject: [The_Dojang] Personalized Black Belts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings, all... I was looking for a place to order a personalized black belt, and was looking for something in particular. I have seen several belts with the person's name on one side in English, with the Korean underneath it. On the other side, I will probably put our federation name, but I was most interested in the English/Korean name on one side. Does anyone know of a place that can do this? Especially since it's Korean, I want to make sure it's a place that is familiar / comfortable with it. I've seen some belts where the embroiderer did "the best they could" and it looks nothing like Korean :) Any help would be greatly appreciated... When I test for my black belt this summer, I'd like to get a black belt for my wife too... :-) Shhh... Don't say anything to her... :) <> - Bert Edens 1st Degree Recommended, Level 2 Springdale, Arkansas --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:26:53 EST From: ABurrese@aol.com To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hoshinsul Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >>Nooooo, not one-steps. But we are getting somewhere >>here. Locks, submissions, escapes, and evasion type >>stuff. Laurie, Actually, Bruce's questions did relate to your question, there is much more to self-defense than just knowing some techniques. Principles, biomechanics, basic body motion, etc. all come into play. However, if it is locks, escapes, things to do in various self-defense situations that you want instruction on, my videos Hapkido Hoshinsul and Streetfighting Essentials have exactly what you are asking for. Hapkido Hoshinsul focuses on locks and throws, while Streetfighting Essentials focuses on other components such as striking, low kicking, falling, escapes and defenses from chokes, grabs, bear hugs, head locks, etc. Put them both together and they will have a lot of what you want. They complement each other well. New ones with more principles and techniques are in the works. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Klaas Barends To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: 28 Mar 2002 17:21:40 +0100 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Printing hangul Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I too am looking for someone to do a few translations for me. I am looking > for the proper Korean pronounciation and also the phrases written in HanGul. > I had an old friend at one time translate a couple things for me and she had > a printer that would print in HanGul, but I have lost contact with her. I can't translate Korean for you, but any printer can print hangul nowadays. When you use WindowsME go to the Microsoft update pages and download the support for Korean language and the Korean input editor. When you use Windows XP you can install it in your control panel under regional settings. When you use Linux, install hanterm. This stuff all works great for me, when I want to type in Korean (I can almost do it blind) for certificates or on my website (www.hapkido.nl). The difficult bit for me was finding the characters on my none-Korean keyboard :-) Hope this helps, -- kind regards Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Laurie S." To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:29:14 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] TKD Ho Shin Sol Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Cheree wrote: <<<>>>> I didn't think about that. Thanks Cheree :o) Durrrr.... I should have known that from being in TSD first lol. <<<>>> I have two of C.S. Kims videos. I should watch them again lol. I'll study the self defence part of the videos more closely. Thanks again Cheree :o) Laurie yellow belt TKD (5th gup TSD) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:46:35 -0600 (CST) From: "David N. Beck" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: TKD Self-defense Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Laurie said: > ><<<pretty wide difference between techniques depending on whose group you >examine. I would think that you would want techniques whose biomechanics >come closest to the way you use your body in a typical class, yes?>>>> > >I didn't ask for bio-whatevers. I asked for self defense (in plain english) >for TKD, and no, it doesn't matter what org or resourse it comes from. ANY >self defense relating to TKD. What Bruce is talking about here is that it's easiest for a TKDer to use the same kicking/striking techniques they do every day in class with some adjustments than it is to put in circular motions obliquely redirecting the attacker into throws or joint locks that involve putting the opponent on the ground. IE; build on the base you have, doing the same kind of body movements. Take your standard roundhouse kick and use the ball of the foot as the striking surface and going to precise targets -- it's not a kick to the body somewhere on the chest protector, it's a kick to the floating rib using a striking surface that will break it. Using the things like elbows that are in the art but neglected because they're against competition rules. Plus a little bit of escape & evasion to let you get to the range at which you are most comfortable. David N. Beck, WATT Lead Engineer Internet: David.Beck@alcatel.com Phone: 972-519-3103 Address: MS SDVS-2, 1000 Coit Road, Plano, Texas 75075 ** Opinions expressed are not those of Alcatel USA ** --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:05:26 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Weapon Origins Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Cheree, Nunchaku were "farming implements". More specifically, they are flails which were used to beat the rice heads to seperate the rice kernal out of the sheath-like bracts that hold it on the head of the rice plant, after the rice was cut and dried.. I can't remember the titles of any books right off hand, but if you seach for Okinawan Weapons and Martial Arts, there are 2 or three pretty good books out there. Danny Dunn <<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>> --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:02:17 -0500 From: Brian Beach To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Studio Growth? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What are some of the things that people use to promote the growth of their studio (i.e. marketing, after school programs, seminars, etc.) as well as income generating activities My GM has asked me and some of the other black belts to help him in this task. Any pitfalls I should be aware of? One thing that I suggested is seminars. In the spirit of Master West, Alain et al. He is a high ranking Hapkido master and I think that there would be a market for it but have no idea of how to approach setting them up. Do you just advertise and hope for the best? If so, where? Call studios and ask if they would like the service? Any ideas on pricing structures? I suggested maybe offering the services to local TKD studios but his concern is that many Korean masters may resist the idea due to ego. Is this a common problem? Is there a way around it? Any help form those that have been down this path is much appreciated. Feeling it out, Brian --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "ericules" To: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:12:31 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: ACL recon to San Lim Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net < The bio-screws are an option for me but some doctors still prefer the To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:27:46 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] !7th and 18th International HapKiDo Seminars Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net We have reached an agreement with the Clarion Hotel (601-969-2141) to host the next two International HapKiDo Seminars. The 17th IHS will be held on the weekend of August 17th, 2002, and the 18th will be held on the Weekend of March 1, 2003. Roomrates will be $69 per night, including breakfast buffet. I look forward to seeing everyone again soon...Thanx for your time...J. R. West www.hapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 14 From: "Laurie S." To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:35:54 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] TKD self defense/ TKD weak hands Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Alain Wrote: <<<>>> Thank you. I will check out your webpage. Thanks to F. Pitt also for another webpage. As far as weak hand techniques in TKD, it depends on the person or the instructor. I do TKD now. I noticed that some don't hardly use their hands when sparring or drop their hands (mostly the kids). So I do a simple foward punch to the mid section, and their hands shoot up. Or they are shocked when I "score" on them with a coupla punches. But most people at this school are pretty good at using blocks. I faught a gentleman last weak in class that was way good. He used everything from kicks to punches and he never did anything else but TKD. Laurie yellow belt TKD (5th gup TSD) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 15 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:25:44 PST Subject: [The_Dojang] fun with rice paper Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Folk Museum to Open Class on Rice Paper Handicraft March 28, 2002 National Folk Museum The National Folk Museum will be offering a three-month class on traditional rice paper handicraft from April 22 to July 8. Classes will open at 2 p.m. on every Monday. Under the supervision of veteran artisan Kim Hye-mi, participants will have an opportunity to learn the traditional handicraft that was widely practiced to make everyday items including wastebasket, sewing box and small furniture items. Participants will be able to try their hands on making about 10 household items. The museum is recruiting 30 participants in order of applications from March 26. Applications are being accepted through Internet (http://www.nfm.go.kr) or phone (734-1341). Tuition is 200,000 won. --__--__-- Message: 16 From: HenryCho@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:49:58 EST To: Myungscho@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] 38th annual All American Open Championships Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear fellow Martial Artists: It is with my great pleasure to inform you that our 2002 annual All American Open Tae Kwon Do/Karate/ Kung-fu Championship Tournament was a success. Congratulations to all the winners of the 38th annual All American Open, including Mr. Omar Holmes, the Sparring Grand Champion, (George Crayton, Jr. = teacher), and Mr. Rick Feizbakish, Form Grand Champion, (James Roberts, Jr = teacher). I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the participants, their teachers and the judges, who worked so hard and who behaved so respectfully with dignity and pride to run this tournament of Chuck Norris, Herbert Perez and many other national and world Champions' tradition. Special thanks go to Master Bill Dewart, my student, who made the difficult journey from San Francisco. I have no doubt that Bill will win his fight with illness he is suffering from, and that he will be able to return to competition in the Super Senior Division. I know that we will all pray for him. I would also like to extend my appreciation to all my students from overseas who participated; Puerto Rico, Venezuela and Germany. They went home with over 60 trophies in total, including the 'Best School' trophy. Congratulations! In several days, I will be sending you our official tournament report with photos. Happy Easter! Happy Passover! S. Henry Cho Director and Producer All American Open --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest