Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:07:43 -0700 (PDT) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #209 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: blue fog (was: Aikido Clips) (Jim Griffin) 3. magazine wanted (DrgnSlyr5@aol.com) 4. NK Families to Visit Seoul (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:25:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Teressa To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Taekkyon and Bouncing Stretches Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi again, Sorry its taken me so long to reply, but life has overtaken me. Including a hectic trip to Kyungju with my middle school girls. Thanks for backing up my thoughts about bouncing stretches. I've decided to quietly not bounce during warm up, but during the warm-down session I will do some gentle bouncing. This after input from a friend here who has western personal trainer training. My teacher hasn't asked me why I have changed, but it may not be a big deal to him. I'm pleased you asked about Taek kyon. Gives me a chance to gush! I could write a few emails on the subject. It's my first martial art, so I've little hands-on experience to compare it to. I'm living in a "little" town south-east of Seoul, but Taekkyon schools exist all over the country. Taegu actually has four schools. Suwon about that many. There's even two associations. Mine emphasizes the kicking aspects, while the other more of a Judo style. I'd say the art is alive and healthy and growing fast. Definitely has a ways to go. There are still many Koreans who have not heard of the art (and its not a pronunciation problem!) or they think of it as quaint. While doing it, we say "Ick Ehk Ehk Ick Ehk Ehk" to keep the beat and control breathing. It sounds funny to people not impressed by the techniques. It's based on the traditional folk dancing, and the dance aspect is emphasized. I like it because of the openness to grace which I associate with Tai Chi, and the opportunity to fight without hurting each other. A nice cross between grace and aggression. Oh yeah, and I love to dance. ;) Ideally, I train 5 nights a week for about an hour and a half. Warm-up, work-out, warm down. The work out could be kick training, forms training or all-out sparring, appropriate to everyone's level and on different nights. The sparring is referred to as playing the "game". No padding, except on the shins if you get badly bruised. All age groups are welcome, though we don't have anyone over 40 coming out. The kids seems to be as young as 3, but at that age they are allowed to just follow along. Serious training starts at about 6 in our years (7 in theirs). I could go on, and would be happy to if anyone is interested. Maybe later I'll comment on the Korean-Japan string, a fascninating topic. Thanks to all who have contributed. Have fun, Teressa teressa_trollope@yahoo.com > I'm studying martial arts in South Korea, specifically > Taek kyon. I've noticed we are taught to do bouncing > stretches here. But, North American thought says that > bouncing is the worst thing you can do because you end > up with micro-tears in your muscles and so on. Should > I and other students be worried about this? I would say yes. We frequently teach the way we were taught. Although learning in "PE" continues, some just fall back on teaching the same way their instructors taught them. Sometimes this is good, sometimes not. I was first taught to bounce when stretching, but it seems that it was perhaps 15 or 20 years ago that holding the stretch, not bouncing, became more popular. Comments from others? Tell us more about your Taekkyon training? Have you found Taekkyon dojangs commonly available there in SK or ??? Are you in the Seoul area? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Jim Griffin" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:49:57 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: blue fog (was: Aikido Clips) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I had a college roomate with the same ability, though I suspect his "blue fog o' death" was due more to his food selection than to any martial training of his. p.s. the above is not intended as an attack on Aikido, blue fog, food, or anything else. --- begin quoted text --- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Aikido Clips Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:27:11 PDT FWIW, and probably not much, but... A friend is/was a 2nd Dan in Aikido. A good ole boy, one that I could trust. A friend of his that he felt similarly about had the chance to 'attack' Ueshiba at a demo/seminar/whatever. He said it was the strangest thing... as he approached Ueshiba to grab him he said it seemed that he had walked into a light blue fog. He was very disoriented, didn't know where he was or why he was there, and then he noticed he was on the mat. He got up, tried to attack Ueshiba once again, and again the blue fog rolled in. Me? I'm still working on that blue fog technique. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --- end quoted text --- _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: DrgnSlyr5@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:01:03 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] magazine wanted Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net If anyone has a copy of Martial Arts Training July/96 that you'd be willing to part with, please contact me offline. Thanks. Sharon --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:10:59 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] NK Families to Visit Seoul Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 100 Northern Families to Visit Seoul May 1 April 14, 2002 South and North Korea have agreed to hold two rounds of families, torn apart by the 1950-53 Korean War, on April 28 and May 1, officials said on Sunday (April 14). The agreement was reached at the inter-Korean Red Cross contact on Saturday at the truce village of Panmunjeom, South Korean Red Cross officials said. The contact followed talks on April 4 between North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il and South Korean presidential envoy Lim Dong-Won in Pyeongyang. During the Pyeongyang talks, the two Koreas agreed to resume reunions of separated families at the North's scenic Mt. Geumgang from April 28. In Saturday's meeting, the North agreed to accept a 100-member South Korean delegation for three-day family reunions at Mt. Geumgang from April 28. In return, the North will send 100 people for the meetings with relatives in the South from May 1, they said, adding South Korean Red Cross officials would visit Mt. Geumgang on Tuesday to inspect facilities. The two sides will hold further talks this week to work out details. The two Koreas have held three rounds of family reunions since their leaders held a landmark summit in June 2000. The North, however, canceled the planned fourth round of meetings after a security alert was posted in the South in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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