Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 02:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #210 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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A Century of Change (Ray Terry) 4. ETA program (Ray Terry) 5. Taekwondo officials call for unity (Ray Terry) 6. Re: GTF founder Park Jung Tae, RIP (Bert Edens) 7. Self-defense (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 8. Hae Dong Gumdo (Sun Mu Kwan-USA) 9. Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #208 - 2 msgs (TKDgalSamm@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Laurie S." To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:52:52 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] TKD Mpegs/videos Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hiya all. Does anyone know of any sites with downloadable videos of anything TKD? Except forms. I have all the forms (WTF and ITF) on my PC. I'm looking for drills, breaking, demos, ect. I also have the Korean Tigers mpegs, but I'm looking for more. Thanks in advance :o) Laurie yellow belt/green stripe TKD (TSD 5th gup) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:24:12 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] brown fog Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The blue fog story is interesting,, my students have experienced something akin to that same phenomena, after coming at me in Hapkido class and trying to grab my dobok many of my students have observed what they say to be a brown fog emanating from my aura, they also say they have become disorientated and somewhat dizzy and nauseous,, they ask me if it is because of my strong emphasis on Ki training,, what I tell them is that it is actually from my late night forays to my favorite Mexican restaurant in this area called Julita's!!!! Very great food but it does leave you with some extra Ki if you know what I mean. Michael Tomlinson (creator of the Brown Fog Society) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:27:05 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] A Century of Change Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: Korea: A century of change Professor Juergen Kleiner of Boston University has recently published a book entitled Korea: A Century of Change. This book provides an evenhanded coverage of Korea's turbulent history during the last one hundred years, from seclusion to division. It focuses particularly on the development of the two different and antagonistic states on the peninsula since 1945. The author sees both countries through the windows of their possibilities and interests. He supplements his narrative, which makes use of rich source material, with observations he has made in South Korea, where he spent more than ten years from the 1970s to the 1990s, and where he had access to politicians and opinion leaders. To access the table of contents, foreword, chapter 1 and more details of the book, go to: http://www.wspc.com.sg/books/eastasianstudies/4732.html. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:29:37 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] ETA program Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: ... I think this is a good time to mention to the list the existence of the Fulbright ETA (English Teaching Assistant) program to Korea. The ETA program takes American recent college graduates and brings them to Korea to teach English in Korean middle and high schools outside of Seoul. They come in July for six weeks of language survival training, teacher survival training, and cultural adaptation in Chunchon; then they work as the only native speaker of English in their schools for a year as they teach with Korean co-teachers and live in a Korean homestay. The program requires no prior knowledge of Korea or the Korean language and no prior teaching experience, but the ETAs never get Korea out of their system - one of the 1994 ETAs is returning this fall, in fact, as a regular graduate student Fulbrighter doing dissertation research in Korean studies. We have 50+ ETAs this year and hope for more next year. Application is through the campus Fulbright Coordinator and IIE and the deadline is in October, but we have been publicizing the program on American university campuses this spring through a brochure. The text of that brochure is pasted below Ms. Pitelka's message. If you know of recent college graduates - or someone who will be a college senior this fall - who might like to come to Korea for a year, please ask them to apply or ask us if they have questions - or at least look the websites, including our own: www.fulbright.or.kr Horace H. Underwood Executive Director (Fulbright) Korean-American Educational Commission 168-15 Yomni-dong, Mapo-gu Seoul 121-874, South Korea Ph:+82-2-3275-4000; fax:+82-2-3275-4028 hhu@fulbright.or.kr www.fulbright.or.kr --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:40:29 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] Taekwondo officials call for unity Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Foreign taekwondo officials call for unity in domestic community Korean-born foreign taekwondo officials called for unity in the domestic taekwondo community yesterday to further enhance the image of the nation's martial art worldwide. The officials, all members of the rule-making Executive Council of the Seoul-based World Taekwondo Federation (WTF), also urged Korea to devote more time and energy to developing new taekwondo techniques and competition rules. "To maintain a leading role in the world, Korean taekwondo circles should show the world their concerted action, and any internal feud would undermine the efforts," said Park Sun-jae, vice president of the WTF, in a news conference at the Korea Press Center in downtown Seoul. Park, a Korean Italian who serves as president of the Italian Taekwondo Federation, referred to a series of incidents involving the election of a new president of the Korea Taekwondo Association (KTA), and the controversial selection of national taekwondo players last year. The turmoil has almost died down with last month's election of Koo Cheon-seo as new head of the KTA. Taekwondo students and professors have also called for reform in the overall operation and management of taekwondo organizations, as well as a personnel reshuffle. Also at the news conference were Sang Lee, president of the U.S. Taekwondo Union and vice president of the WTF; Hong Sung-chon, president of the Philippine Taekwondo Association and member of the WTF's Executive Council; and Seo Myung-soo, vice president of the European Taekwondo Union and member of the WTF's Executive Council. "We organized this meeting to get across our message to Korean taekwondo people that we have no time to fight over trivial things and that we have to work out action programs for another take-off of taekwondo," Lee said. Hong warned that if Korea fails to produce any vision for taekwondo, then it should yield its leading position to other taekwondo powers. Seo stressed the importance of sports diplomacy by Kim Un-yong, a senior member of the International Olympic Committee, and other Korean sports leaders in promoting taekwondo. sjkang@koreaherald.co.kr By Kang Seok-jae Staff reporter --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:31:27 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Bert Edens Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] GTF founder Park Jung Tae, RIP Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings, all... As someone who belongs to an organization closely affiliated with the GTF, I wanted to say a couple of things... First, my condolences so all who were part of the GTF, or whose lives had been touched by Grandmaster Park. I'm but a newbie in this art, and I'm sure others' lives were touched much more deeply. I feel fortunate to have attended one of the last events GM Park presided at, which was our Grand Nationals competition in Hot Springs, Arkansas, in March. While I didn't get a chance to meet him, I was fortunate enough to hear him speak of the peace and harmony he hoped taekwon-do would bring to the world. More than anything else, I remember him smiling the entire competition, whether it was watching demonstration teams perform complex aerial flips or a synchronized Juk Aum hyung, or watching a young white belt stumble their way through Chon Ji. He seemed to derive such pure joy just from watching TKD being done. Finally, you realize how much GM Park has impacted other lives by seeing how others reacted to his death. When we heard of his passing at our school Friday night, it cast a somber mood among the leadership team (the other students were already gone and we were preparing for our weekly meeting). Saturday we had a tournament, and the President of our federation, Master Scott McNeely, who was proud to have GM Park as his instructor, looked visible distraught. He is usually someone who looks peaceful, and at the same time strong. I saw only flashes of those characteristics on Saturday. When he announced GM Park's death to the competing students at bow-in, his voice audibly cracked and he had to stop to compose himself. We shall all miss Grandmaster Park. Taekwon! <> - A very somber Bert Edens --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:41:56 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Self-defense Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Craig writes: > > > >Should the case go as far as the courts, it is up to the Martial Artist when > >claiming self-defense to show that their actions were within reason. Spunky wrote: > Ok, so what happened to innocent until proven guilty? My reply: As I pointed out in a previous post, claiming self-defense means that you have admitted you did the deed. It then becomes your responsibility to explain why you karate-chopped the guy into pieces. J.R. West wrote: > Several years ago, I had a student that was a formal federal judge, and > a VERY well known criminal lawyer in our area, and I asked him if he could > explain to me exactly how I would differ from any other "man in the street" > when it came to my response to a perceived threat. After much reading, > researching and talking to some friends of his that sat on our State Supreme > Court. he decided that we, as instructors, have no more liability than the > next guy, and the only thing that could change that would be if we made a > living or a partial living by pummeling the citizenry for money or other > rewards, that is, full contact fights for a purse, bodyguard work, or > something of that type. My comment: I did some reading on this as well, and although I'm no lawyer, I'd say that while case law supports your interpretation, there is an increasing trend to recognize everyday items as "lethal weapons." While hands were not regarded this way in the past, I think increasingly the tendency is to interpret the injuries inflicted as a means of determining what is now considered a deadly weapon (ie. shoes as deadly weapons -- they didn't use to be, but if you beat someone to death, it might be described as such by the court). I also think that in jury trials, the opposing attorney would be very remiss if he/she didn't point out the training you've had. It could only strengthen his/her argument against you, and portray his client as a victim. The worst possible situation would be one where you'd find yourself facing a lawyer quoting Carl Brown's book on law and the martial arts. In that one, Carl (a lawyer and martial artist) not only says that trained fighters (ie. us) should be able to defend ourselves without hurting the opponent, but also says that a trained fighter should be able to detect a possible fight and avoid it (using his Spidey Sense I guess!). Oh, and remember that different states have different requirements for proving self-defense. The duty to retreat can be a real problem in some states (ie. Massachusetts!). Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:26:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA To: Dojang digest Subject: [The_Dojang] Hae Dong Gumdo Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Does anyone happen to know if there's a Hae Dong Gumdo school in the Los Angeles or Orange County area? ===== Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 9 From: TKDgalSamm@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:31:12 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #208 - 2 msgs Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 4/14/2002 4:05:50 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Sad news... > > Just learned that GM Park Jung Tae, founder of the GTF, passed away > yesterday. I understand he had been ill for some time. > > Ray Terry > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > That is sad news ..... I didn't know him, but I had been part of the USTF associated with GTF back in the early 90s. I saw him do a demo in 1994. It was an awesome organization to be a part of back then; I miss it. I'm sorry to hear about him passing on. Respectfully, Loretta Harwell --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest