Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 02:08:48 -0700 (PDT) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #239 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. List-Unsubscribe: Status: O Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." <<------------------ The_Dojang mailing list ------------------>> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. New record (Ray Terry) 2. Glad (Rudy Timmerman) 3. Bruce comments (CKCtaekwon@cs.com) 4. Guns in Europe: WSJ (Ray Terry) 5. ITF June Convention (Ray Terry) 6. ITF expulsions (Ray Terry) 7. ITF champs (Ray Terry) 8. Techniques (Randall Sexton) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 11:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] New record Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This Korean art seems to be even more ancient that Master West's TGT... http://www24.brinkster.com/thefringe/GiCheon/ GiCheon is the systematic and practical training of the body and mind to cultivate optimum physical and mental well-being and, if one so chooses, to scale the heights of the meditation mountain. This unique training method has been passed down secretly for more than 15,000 years, some say, by countless sages who lived amidst the mountains in Korea. However, since none have left behind their names or any other written material, the origin and history of GiCheon remains something of a mystery. Ray Terry --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:10:49 -0400 From: "Rudy Timmerman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Glad Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Ray: Glad to hear you are back and healthy. I was away, and I did not know until just now that you experienced yet another health problem. As I sit here hoping my legs will return to their orgnial size (the long plane ride to Korea plus the bus rides made them look like black balloons), I sympathize with you. Anyway, glad you're OK. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 3 From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 15:59:59 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Bruce comments Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net No, Bruce is getting exactly what he has coming. He has dished out more insults than anyone I've ever known of. He can handle it, he's a big boy. He's probably even enjoying this. gary pieratt > It is a free country we live in and we all have a right to feel and say > what we want. I think you guys are exposing yourselves for who you are > not just Bruce!!!! Lets give the guy a break and maybe even talk about > the issues he has brought up about bio mechanics and angles. > > Take care > Todd M. > Gary Pieratt Have a Great Day! --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima), the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), policedo@martialartsresource.net (Policedo) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Guns in Europe: WSJ Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Gun Control Misfires in Europe Wall Street Journal By JOHN R. LOTT, Jr. Sixteen people were killed during Friday's school shooting in Germany. This follows the killing of 14 regional legislators in Zug, a Swiss canton, last September, and the massacre of eight city council members in a Paris suburb last month. The three worst public shootings in the Western world during the past year all occurred in Europe, whose gun laws are exactly what gun-control advocates want the U.S. to adopt. Indeed, all three occurred in gun-free "safe zones." Germans who wish to get hold of a hunting rifle must undergo checks that can last a year, while those wanting a gun for sport must be a member of a club and obtain a license from the police. The French must apply for gun permits, which are granted only after an exhaustive background and medical record check and demonstrated need, with permits only valid for three years. Even Switzerland's once famously liberal laws have become tighter. Swiss federal law now limits gun permits to only those who can demonstrate in advance a need for a weapon to protect themselves or others against a precisely specified danger. The problem with such laws is that they take away guns from law-abiding citizens, while would-be criminals ignore them, leaving potential victims defenseless. The U.S. has shown that making guns more available is actually a better formula for law and order. The U.S. has seen a major change from 1985 when just eight states had the most liberal right-to-carry laws, which automatically grant permits once applicants pass a criminal background check, pay their fees, and, when required, complete a training class. Today the total is 33 states. Deaths and injuries from multiple-victim public shootings fell on average by 78% in states that passed such laws. In Europe, by contrast, violent crime is rising. Many factors are responsible, but it's clear that strict gun control laws aren't helping. In 1996, Britain banned handguns. The ban was so tight that even shooters training for the Olympics were forced to travel to other countries to practice. In the six years since the ban, gun crimes have risen by an astounding 40%. Britain now leads the U.S. by a wide margin in robberies and aggravated assaults. Although murder and rape rates are still lower than in the U.S., the difference is shrinking quickly. Dave Rogers, vice chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said that, despite the ban, "the underground supply of guns does not seem to have dried up at all." Australia also passed severe gun restrictions in 1996, banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively. In the subsequent four years, armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24%, and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%. And both Britain and Australia have been thought to be ideal places for gun control because they are surrounded by water, making gun smuggling relatively difficult. By contrast gun-smuggling is much easier on the Continent or in the U.S. Another inconvenient fact is frequently ignored by gun control advocates: Many countries with high homicide rates have gun bans. It is hard to think of a much more draconian police state than the former Soviet Union, with a ban on guns that dated back to the communist revolution. Yet newly released data show that from 1976 to 1985 the USSR's homicide rate was between 21% and 41% higher than that of the U.S. Many French politicians complained during their presidential election that the shooting in Paris meant "It's getting like in America, and we don't want to see that here." Americans may draw a different lesson from the evidence, and hope that they don't become more like the Europeans. Mr. Lott is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and the author of "More Guns, Less Crime" (University of Chicago Press, 2000). Updated April 30, 2002 --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), policedo@martialartsresource.net (Policedo) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF June Convention Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net May 07, 2002 >From the offices of ITF Administration June Convention It has come to the attention of the Administration that some members are under the misconception that the June Convention was called prior to the existence of the Master Choi's cup and as such had to be attended. This is not the case!! Those invited to attend would be members already in Toronto with competitors from their organisations taking part in the Tournament. However, having said that, we would be delighted if members outside of the above mentioned category decide to attend. In all cases of attendance we would request that you log into the online registration page available at http://www.itf-choijunghwa.com. Taekwon, ITF Administration. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), policedo@martialartsresource.net (Policedo) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF expulsions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From the General Choi ITF... ITF Members Expulsion The ITF annouce the following expulsions, Fabian Nunez, Floyd Griffin, Mel Steiner, Walt Lang, Raymond Choy, Tham Ying Au, Ted Wolf, Trevor Nicholls, Ray Gayle, Carlos Martin, Antonio Troiano, John Cacioli, Zbigniew Kruk, Steve Weston, Michael Muleta, Robert Wheatley, Chew Teck Seong, Doug Arnold, Albert Camacho, John Rodriguez, Norber Ortiz. This cancels all their certificates and qualifications. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), policedo@martialartsresource.net (Policedo) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF champs Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ITF European Championships Croatia have applied to host the 9th Junior and 18th Senior European Championships in the year 2003 in Rijeka, Moldova had also applied to host this championship. Finland applied to host the 2004 championships. ITF World Championships Italy and Slovenia have applied to Host the 7th Junior World Championships in 2004. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Randall Sexton" To: Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:44:47 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Techniques Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net "I was always concerned with just what you mentioned, grace and fluidity in technique...Jere Hilland" Let's discuss this. I'll admit that Mr. Hilland is pretty...I mean his techniques are! Should we aim for grace and beauty or really effective techniques or is the aim the one and same? Taiji for example, looks pretty in training but in actual application (other than those taught by new age teachers), it is very fast and nasty with lots of joint locks, palm strikes and eye strikes, etc.. On the other hand, some of the Indonesian arts look like a riot in progress. Should we try to "feel the music or play the note technically perfect?" Randall Sexton www.laughinghara.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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