Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #244 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re:Seminar Suggestions (Bruce Sims) 4. RE: New schools and reputat (Kirk Lawson) 5. May 25-26 HKD seminar (Ray Terry) 6. Re: NFC Hyung questions (Bruce Sims) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Klaas Barends To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: 14 May 2002 07:54:51 +0200 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: just dressing huh? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > "......I think the number one thing a technique should have over > everything else is no nonsense effectiveness!! Everything else is > just window dressing........" > I couldn't agree with you more. In that case, why learn hapkido with all its different techiques..?? Just start practicing on your one (and only) favourite kick/punch...!! Say you start doing side kicks for about 3 years, each day executing the kick a 1000 times with you left as well as your right leg (this will take you about two hours each day). Within these 3 years you can kick every body's @ss. (and your legs will be trained in such a manner, that it is easy to learn any other kick within a few weeks) The method is simple and effective. Enjoy it -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:09:54 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Naihanchi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net from Tang Soo Do, the ultimate guide to the Korean martial art by Grand Master Kang Uk Lee. "Naihanji Hyung was devised 950 years ago, during the era of the Song Dynasty, by the founder of the Kang WooRyu school of martial arts. " gary pieratt > Regarding Naihanchi... > > I've raised this question in previous years, but new list subscribers bring > new info. > > I postulate that Naihanchi is perhaps the oldest Karate-ish > kata/hyung/poomse/form still being actively taught and practiced today. > Hwang Kee claims it originated about 900 years ago. > > Comments? > > Ray Terry > Gary Pieratt Castroville Karate Club www.askarate.com Success in life is largely the result of habit. Have a Great Day! --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:07:37 -0500 From: "Bruce Sims" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re:Seminar Suggestions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Many professions have buzzwords or catch phrases associated with them and teaching is no exception. As I begin this post I am thinking of one of my favorites for the teaching profession. It states to the effect that a good teacher first “tells them what he’s’ going to teach them, then teaches them what he’s going to teach them, then tells them what he taught them.” Like most old saws what at first seems only quaint simplicity hides some very practical advice. I would like to use this as the foundation for making my five recommendations for improving seminars for Korean Martial Arts (KMA) and Korean Martial Traditions (KMT) specifically and MA seminars in general. 1.) Each seminar provides a syllabus. It has become a growing practice in American schools, in some cases even down to junior high school and grade school to provide a guide concerning what the teacher intends to cover within a particular period of time. Like the site maps provided by many computer website, a syllabus provides an overview that guides the seminar participant into knowing what to expect and when, and how individual pieces of the seminar come together to form a whole and support the overall theme of the seminar. This is different from organizational material, biographic material or histories. 2.) Each seminar practices sound personnel management. Whatever their standing in their own schools, organizations or communities, seminar participants typically give-up that authority and defer to the Seminar authority. This requires that the persons organizing the seminar anticipate issues, which can arise any time large numbers of people, need to be organized to produce an expected result. I would suggest the following as a start. a.) Pair all participants. Cull out anyone with illness or injuries and assign them to other duties off the mat and away from the seminar participants. b.) Rotate all participants. Participants can begin by selecting a partner of choice. However, participant can and should expect to work with everyone on the mat in some reasonable and predictable progression. c.) Designate no more than two individuals to act as surrogates for the main instructor. d.) Limit or avoid socialization including discussion, cameras, organizational issues and idle chatter. This has its place at the seminar but not during the seminar and not in the mat area. 3.) Each seminar practices sound teaching methods. Admittedly teaching can more often be art than science and a teachers’ background, experience, subject and interpersonal skills will all impact their presentation. There are some suggestions that can generally be applied to most seminars. a.) Stay with the published syllabus and regularly identify where your presentation is found in the overall organization of the syllabus. b.) Set a pattern for presenting each subsection of the syllabus. A commonly used pattern is what could be called the 2-1-2 pattern. In this pattern the technique is first demonstrated fast, then demonstrated with exaggerated slowness. The teacher then identifies no more than 3-5 major, specific points, followed by a slow demonstration and then a fast demonstration. Another pattern commonly accepted for instruction in hyung is a progression in which participants are taught by repeatedly practicing hyung moves and adding a new move each time, first explaining the basic move and then suggesting a practical application. c.) Specify short but regular moments for notetaking, or identify a specific person to videotape the entire seminar and make copies available to participants. d.) Provide material that is grade specific. Seminars attract all kinds of backgrounds, ranks and skill levels. A technique can be presented so that its most fundamental execution is available to lower ranks and higher levels of sophistication provided to more accomplished practitioners. In this way, a simple arm-bar, for instance can be taught to lower ranks, while higher ranks would execute this technique as a takedown or as part of a multi-technique pattern. 4.) Debriefing While questions and explanations asked of the seminar leader may run afoul of some cultural aspects of the KMA, the fact is that Americans ask a lot of questions and expect clear concise answers. I would suggest some of the following opportunities. a.) a mini-debriefing (Q&A session) at the day mid-point, and again at the days’ end. I strongly advise against using mealtime or a social setting for this as the interruptions and settings are usually not conducive to discussion or demonstration if necessary. b.) The mid-day Q&A needs to be more technical, but the evening Q&A can include questions and explanations regarding other aspects of the seminar or attendant issues. c.) Q&A should include a review of the syllabus for the day, goal setting for the next day, and a critique of participant performance overall—limiting issues to no more than 3 to 5. d.) Q&A should include a review of the presenters’ performance and can be most commonly accomplished with a written evaluation form and should include some opportunity for written inquiries. 5.) Follow-up Each presenter needs to make contact with seminar participants or their designated organizer/teacher to determine how the material is being used. This is not a moral oversight, but rather a way to determine what material in the seminar has been of practical use and what material has be discarded or disregarded. This can be accomplished in the following ways. a.) The presenter designates an official in his entourage for this responsibility. b.) Each group or school leader is provided a written evaluation to be submitted at a designated future date. In turn, that group leader, teacher, coach etc. could solicit follow-up information from those seminar participants he was responsible for at the seminar. c.) Telephone survey d.) Computer Net survey. Admittedly, there are a lot of reasons not to adopt any of these suggestions. Past practices, time constraints, organizational pressures and culture all work their influence in convincing people that all of this is just too much work. I will agree with these arguments up until such point as one begins to collect money or other compensation for their efforts. Once this becomes a commercial effort, I believe what I am suggesting is the minimum one should provide. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:21:00 -0500 From: Kirk Lawson Organization: Heapy Engineering To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ("THE$DOJA@SMTP {the_dojang@martialartsresource.net}") Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] New schools and reputat Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > From: "Chris Holmes" > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 12:40:42 -0500 > Subject: [The_Dojang] New schools and reputation > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > My school has been open 4 months and we are growing some by > reputation but > the newspaper ads have not been very effective. How do you > get the word > out? How do you sell your school if people will not even > come watch? I was > at a dance recital yesterday and the lady had 150-180 > students. They were > awful but the recital was a big deal and the auditorium with > seating over > 500 was full. She charges almost as much per month as I do > for my martial > arts but she has lots of hidden charges and people gladly > shell out their > money. She has been around 8-10 yrs but still how do I make > parents and > perspective student realize that I offer a better service > that will stay > with them from now on if they will not even come through the doors. > Thank you all in advance. > Chris Holmes > Here are some ideas that I've saved from various forums, etc. When I can, I'll post a link, when the link is dead, I'll quote. As follows ------ ====================== [from the now dead http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/martialartsbiz/bbs?action=l&tid=mart ialartsbiz&sid=12173294&tr=1&mid=88&rv=1 forum] free publicity [Sorry, I'm not available] thekuntawman (http://profiles.yahoo.com/thekuntawman) (29/M/sacramento, ca) 4/25/99 12:02 pm each school should do any kind of free activity once a month. the word "free" attracts attention, and it is easy to get free publicity when you function is free or "community service project". here are some suggestion: -free rape prevention/women's impowerment saminar -self-esteem/self-confidence workshop for kid -weight loss/healthy eating clinic -security for the home and car/burger protaction -open house (invite cultural group like philippine dance troupe to perform, irish dance group it doesnt have to be asian, serve food so people will want to stay and will remember you). -fundraiser to local charity each time you do one post announcement in local business and school newsletters. sent press release to newspapers and radio. after the event write an articles and submit it. i just thought i could offer some advice it work for me.... ========================== Advertising http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=b82bfe9215aa2a49&seek m=0f6fbtc31u0vi2fb90ncpik6sqsus5ijqc%404ax.com#link6 ========================== Advertising http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=b82bfe9215aa2a49&seek m=0f6fbtc31u0vi2fb90ncpik6sqsus5ijqc%404ax.com#link7 ========================== Budo and Business http://www.fightingarts.com/content01/gablehous.shtml ========================== Creating A Business Plan: Taking the Offense Against Competition http://www.fightingarts.com/learning/interestgroups/business/business_plan .shtml ========================= from: http://fightingarts.com/content02/ma_business.shtml How To Handle Telephone Inquiries to Your Martial Arts School ========================== The Business of Martial Arts Every Instructor Should Offer a Trial Course http://blackbeltmag.com/archives/blackbelt/1999/mar99/bus.html ========================= From: http://www.fightingarts.com/content01/ma_business.shtml Student Recruitment On A Shoestring ========================= Take Care of Your Current Students or Else http://blackbeltmag.com/archives/blackbelt/1998/dec98/bus.html ========================= Attitude is Important for a Successful School by Jim Mather http://blackbeltmag.com/archives/blackbelt/1998/nov98/bus.html ======================== from: http://www.mapromag.com/mapromag/article/topten.shtml [dead link] Top Ten Tips Achieving the ÊTotal PictureË of Good Retention and a Successful School by Mike Anderson 1. Use a curriculum calendar - Many instructors hit the mat without planning what theyÉll teach. A curriculum calendar will ensure that you AND your staff cover required material, so students are confident and ready at testing time. ItÉs easy - just list your various curriculum categories on a calendar sheet. If forms and self-defenses are this Thursday, teach them next Wednesday and the following Tuesday, etc. Coming twice a week, your students will soon know everything for testing. 2. Have a flexible schedule - Students, kids and grownups, alike, have more and more demands on their time. Early morning classes for adults and rotating afternoon class times for younger students can help give your students more options to get in. The more opportunities you can give them to train, the more likely they will be able to make it to class. 3. Use promotion recommendation sheets - NAPMA and others have long suggested using Êintent to promoteË forms. We use them for both children and adults. When doing belt promotions, hand your student a Promotion Recommendation Form to complete and return. While filling them out, parents are reminding themselves of the benefits that their children are receiving from martial arts training. Adults list the progress theyÉve made toward whatever goals first motivated them. This helps retention and provides glowing testimonials for your marketing. 4. Reward your students - Imagine that every student has a sign on his or her uniform that says Make Me Feel Important! Seemingly minor efforts like sending ÊGood Job NotesË for exceptional class performance, ÊMissed You In ClassË and ÊGet WellË cards when theyÉve been out, and ÊHappy BirthdayË greetings can help students develop a personal bond to you and your school. Awarding ÊAcademic AchieverË and other merit patches for accomplishment can also reap retention dividends. 5. Do student surveys - An annual customer satisfaction survey of your student base can be very enlightening as to where your customers (yes, customers) feel you need improvement. Among other things, ask questions about schedules, how they rate the instructors, whether they feel theyÉre getting an adequate workout, whether classes are enjoyable, and what they would like to see improved. Be sure the surveys can be returned anonymously. (NAPMA members already have a sample questionnaire.) 6. Train your staff - Be sure that your staff shares your concept of Êmat-itudeË - how you want your students taught and related to. A positive personality is vital to retention, and a rude, arrogant, or - even worse - boring instructor can alienate and run off plenty of your clientele. Be sure that you Êlead by exampleË for your staff, and always publicly recognize and praise them for their accomplishments. A happy staff member can only help retention. 7. Develop a Leadership Team - In addition to the above staff training, a Êleadership teamË - SWAT, STORM, etc., can not only give you future Êbench strengthË, but can improve retention by giving a boost to students that are wavering. Recruit and train them regularly, using them in class and for private Êone on oneË lessons for students that need extra help. These team members will also feel more involved with the school, another great retention factor. 8. Use a ÊWord of the WeekË or ÊMessage of the WeekË - The most frequent favorable parent comment on our most recent student survey related to our teaching positive values such as integrity, perseverance, self-discipline, and the rest in class. We do this by example through a short in-class message done daily in all youth classes. They donÉt get this in soccer or tee-ball, and that gives martial arts a major advantage. 9. Safety First! - An injured student is often a ÊgoneË student. Be sure that you and ALL your instructors are training safely, starting with warm-up exercises. DonÉt assume that your students know how to hold a kicking shield properly - SHOW them. Be sure your students are using equipment that is in good repair, and that they know the importance of good control. Try to match students up for partner work by size and temperament. Last, but not least, no horseplay! 10. Keep Students Sweating, Smiling, & Learning! - The mat (floor, deck) is where it all comes together. Training has to be fun forkids and adults, or theyÉll vanish. Through NAPMA and other sources, there exists plenty of available material on how to disguise repetition with drills and activities for all ages that instructors from any style can adapt and use. Additionally, continuously adding new training ideas will help keep you and your staff fresh - a vital retention component. u Contact information Mike Anderson Goshin Karate & Judo Academy 6245 E. Bell Rd #120 Scottsdale, AZ 85254 480-951-2236 email: wmakarate@aol.com School demographics Active count - 350 enrolled, 280-300 weekly active (non-summer) Year founded - 1991 ================================= Why Students Quit http://www.fightingarts.com/learning/interestgroups/business/why_students_ quit.shtml ============================== Web site dedicated to Martial Arts Business (jillions of articles): http://www.pbms4me.com/page1/ =============================== I have a few articles saved on "Why Students Quit" and "Retaining Students" but I didn't want to tack in 5 more articles since they're all from dead link. Hope these help. Peace favor your sword --- As of 8:45 on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, I live in a united nation. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 8:57:15 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] May 25-26 HKD seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Details from the pdf portion of Master McCarty's post that were removed by Mailman. Hapkido Seminar May 25 & 26 South Windsor, CT Grandmaster Ji, Han Jae, 10th Dan Seminar Details: Two days of intense training with the Founder of Sin Moo Hapkido, Doju-Nim Ji,Han Jae. Topics being covered will be joint locks, kicking, and much more. (Space is limited) Dates: Saturday, May 25 and Sunday, May 26, 2002 Times: 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. each day with one hour for lunch Fee: SAVE $50 with Early Registration before May 17, 2002 is $200 for both days Late Registration after May 17, 2002 is $225 for both days One Day Registration is $125 per day any time that you register Cash or Checks only-Register online at www.hapkidojang.com Make checks payable to Michael McCarty and mail registration and payment to: Master Michael McCarty 7 Revere Drive, Unit One Bloomfield, CT 06002 Location: Hapkido Chun Do Kwan at the South Windsor Community Center 150 Nevers Road, South Windsor, CT 06074 Host: Master Michael McCarty, 5th Dan in Hapkido Contact Info: Contact Master McCarty at 860.242.1109 or 860.796.0811. You may also email Master McCarty at hapkidojang@hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:58:54 -0500 From: "Bruce Sims" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: NFC Hyung questions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Mac: ".....And I'm with you, I enjoy performing all three of the Naihanchi hyungs together as one. I thought I read some where that Funikoshi did as well, and he called it Nihanchi-O or something like that when done as one. The first form I ever remember seeing that got me very interested in and caused me to sign up for TaeKwonDo was Naihanchi Chodan/Tekki Shodan/Chulgi 1 or what ever you want to call it :-)......" When you do your composite hyung for the three NFC/TEKKI do you a.) Simply do one hyung-- both sides-- followed by the next-- both sides or b.) Left side hyung one into left side hyung 2 into left side hyung three or c.) mix varying portions from each of the hyung so as to get a representation from each hyung but still bring you back to the original point? Is your execution more in line with the Shotokan (TEKKI) biomechanic, or have you backed-up some to the more Okinawan way of doing the hyung? Are there movements that have been introduced by Korean practitioners to lend a more "Korean" (read also "Taek Kyon") aspect to execution? As I write this last question I am thinking of the book KOREAN KARATE in which the hyung were nearly identical to the Shotokan kata. I really do recommend Johnsons' book for those who get into some well-researched rationale for how kata/hyung can be practiced. 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