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Today's Topics:

   1. More sparring (Charles Richards)
   2. Seminars (Hapkido Self Defense Center)
   3. RE: Sparring Stuff (Laurie S.)
   4. New format (Miguel)
   5. Re: New format (Ray Terry)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:30:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Charles Richards <mojakwan@yahoo.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] More sparring
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

<<snip>>
Anne,

I can't agree with several things in your post.

<<<<My question/opinion on this matter is why if your school is not 
'sport' oriented, why would sparring even be a requirement?>>>>>

There are many reasons to spar and few if any of them are solely 
related to "sport".  I have a very non-sport oriented school and I
consider sparring very important to learning the martial aspect of
martial art.  Let me say that we do little sport oriented sparring, but
free sparring with continuous techniques.
For starters,sparring teaches timing, focus, distance, footwork, 
reaction, and reading the oponent, how to control your opponent, and
how to deal with being hit.
   
<<<<<<,,My school is not 'sport' orientated, although it is required to

learn sparring techniques and sparring series' we are not required to
spar to attainour BB, our instructors pphilosphy is that if you do
everything well in an attack situation you will be able to
"spar'.>>>>>>>>>>>

I have to disagree with your instructor.  Fighting is a totally 
different world, even from sparring, and it should also be practiced as
realistically as possible.  Just because you know how to do a techinque
does not mean you can do it under an adrenalin rush, and with a
non-cooperative partner.  Also, you have to learn how to deal with
being hit.

<<<I do not believe the essesnce of a BB or a martial "art" is to be 
profient in the act of sparring or as some refer to it controlled
fighting>>>>>

Anne, with all respect, if you arn't learning anything "martial", how 
can you call it a martial art.  I don't believe sparring can be called 
fighting, even controlled.
<<end snip>>

Master Dunn,
I'm responding to your post so I can forward to one my students.  In
general I agree with your post completely.  I believe karotty without
martial science would be called Tae Bo or Cardio Kickboxing...

Today, my student and I had a good phone chat.  She basically told me
she hated sparring, but knew I would expect her to at least try her
best when asked to do it.  Later on in the conversation she
acknowledged that her dislike of sparring had to do with some of her
own issues, and thanked me for helping her work through some of them. 
So one could offer that sparring is a very important part of the Do of
Karate-Do<g>

Yours in Jung Do,

Charles Richards
Moja Kwan TangSooDo
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Message: 2
From: "Hapkido Self Defense Center" <hkd@fuse.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:23:52 -0400
Subject: [The_Dojang] Seminars
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

As a friend and fan of this true martial artists, I would highly recommend
that you attend one of Master Timmerman's clinics. I assure you that you
will enjoy the many decades of knowledge that he will generously pass on to
any one who is willing to practice with him. Jere R. Hilland
www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul

<<Hello everyone: I will travel to Salt Lake City (via 80) at the end of
June, and I will return using the same route around the middle of July.  If
anyone is interested in a seminar or workshop (on my way there or back),
please contact me at kwanjang@nkmaa.ca. Sincerely, Rudy W. Timmerman
National Korean Martial Arts Association>>

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Message: 3
From: "Laurie S." <karatekid1975@hotmail.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:54:44 -0400
Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Sparring Stuff
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Bruce asked:

<<<<I wonder what happens to folks whose teachers don't take the time to 
work with these issues. How much did you, yourself, have to sort this out 
and how much did your teacher help you? Inquiring minds want to know.>>>>

My first teacher used to "ask" us to spar. But it wasn't just me that hated 
it or was "scared" to. So he didn't "force" us to spar.

He offered a sparring clinic like every two weeks or so to work on drills, 
techniques, free sparring, ect. I took one of those classes and got hit hard 
(I was a white belt at the time), and that cured me of sparring. It was 
supposed to be light contact, but an avanced belt hit me hard, and they 
should have had control.

He didn't ask me to spar, because I would have said "hell no". And he didn't 
force me either.

I didn't spar again till I got my yellow belt in TKD (Febuary ... about a 
year and a half after getting wacked). My new teacher noticed that I was 
"backing away", and asked why, and I told him. So he had me spar with no 
contact to build some skills with drills and such. After a while, it was 
light contact, then in april, I was fighting full contact. He helped me with 
the "fear" of getting hit. It was partly me, too, because I was tired of 
"running". Now I can hold my hands behind my back and take a shot in the gut 
(with gear on that is LOL), and not even flinch. It took a while to get rid 
of the fear, but it's worth it. And I do (or the whole school) works on 
drills alot, also. So that helps with building technique and reaction time.

Laurie
TKD high yellow belt
(5th gup TSD)

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Message: 4
From: "Miguel" <miguel@garciatkd.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:29:54 -0400
Subject: [The_Dojang] New format
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Sorry, but I think that the new DDD format where all of the responses are
sent as separate email attachements is really a buden.
Miguel
http://garciatkd.com

[if you can't beat your computer at chess. try kickboxing]

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Message: 5
From: Ray Terry <raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com>
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] New format
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:18:35 PDT
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

> Sorry, but I think that the new DDD format where all of the responses are
> sent as separate email attachements is really a buden.

You are in complete control of that.  Just switch your setting back to what 
99% of the other subscribers are using, the digest format.

Ray Terry
raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com


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