Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #303 - 15 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Questions and Answers (Charles Veuleman) 4. USKA ? (Ray Terry) 5. Gen. Choi (Chris Hamilton EZ Lock) 6. GM Choi (Charles Richards) 7. www.itf-generalchoi.com (Ray Terry) 8. General Choi (Farral, Kim) 9. testing gifts. (MSKBEvans@aol.com) 10. Re: testing gifts. (Bert Edens) 11. Re: testing gifts. (Bert Edens) 12. Gifts (Rudy Timmerman) 13. Kuk Sool Won Weapons Question (Richard Goater) 14. Sport TKD Calendar (Ray Terry) 15. Temple Stay: A Glimpse at Another World (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:20:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] instructor gifts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Anyway, it got me thinking. What gifts have y'all gotten for your instructors for your dan testings, if you do? <> My instructors had been 1st Dans for a while when I started, they earned their Yi Dans soon after I started, and just after I tested for first Dan they tested for Sam Dan. One of the mothers at the school started a collection and we got them both Tanto knives with the Dan #, date and rank engraved on them, and placed them in a display box. We really kept it a surprise and they were speachless. As for me, I've had a rule with my students not to give me any gifts that they purchase, but it can be hand made. Over the years I've received some really cool handi-crafts. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TangSooDo Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:27:34 -0500 From: "d.mchenry" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] More Bluewave Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charles, <> I used to know that form... been too many years to be able to do it now. I believe it is a Shorin-ryu or Shorie-ryu form, not Shoto-kan. ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:33:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Questions and Answers Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Digest Well, back from the lakehouse weekend vacation, and quite a few shades more red than I was when I left, but glad to be back anyway. On all the emails about gifts to instructors for testing, I think this is a good idea, Especially with my dojo, as I tend to get hyped up before tests, ready to pack a punch to my students in the form of a LONG test. Good gift ideas, not only for me, but most all instructors, are : Mop The Dojo/Dojang Floor Take out Trash New Flag, Not of Countries, but of the State you are in, since most schools don't have one of these hanging Also, someone (Mr. Richards I think) asked about Iron Claw, it is master chittims version of Go Pai Sho. The form has sentimental value in our school. We once had a very special lady training with us. Her name was Maud Corley, and she was a shotokan black belt from Hawaii, but only got to purple belt with us, due to a battle with cancer. She won the many tournaments with the shotokan version, then in a show of her skill, won the world championships with our version. After she left louisiana to be in her Hawaii homeland for her battle, her body got too weak to practice the form. Her muscle memory laxed, but told me she really missed seeing the form the way we did it. My instructor taught it to me, then I went to Hawaii and showed it to her. It was a very nice chance to see my friend and give her the gift of this kata again. As for a video version, I would love to take care of this for you, but I don't have a video camera. But we do have a Holiday Inn Express, anyone smell a road trip? Also there was a question of chul gi III, yes, 2 and three exist, but I haven't gotten to them yet. I have seen chul gi 2, but haven't been interested in learning it early. Maybe this is a good chance. Chul Gi 3 may be another I try to pick up also, but until my upcoming test is done with, I don't want to mix my mind up. I did go to Louisiana Public School You Know... As for calling the style Tang Soo Do, NO. Just No. If you don't want to call us Tae Kwon Do, you may call us Korean Karate, since that seems to be a better reference anyway. Our group is very American-ized. Master chittim once said (talking about using foreign commands in class) "if talking korean or japanese will make me a better fighter, I'll talk korean and japanese". Mr Chittim Spoke fluent redneck only. AND besides that, has your mom ever screamed your whole name when you were in trouble, well I get that same feeling when my class yells out "YES SA BUM NIM VEULEMAN" so sensei works great. :D And yes, I do have a great brown belt sidekick. Also, to cliff on the grandmaster/supreme shogun soke 20th degree grand grandmaster question, yes, it does seem like people split up and appoint themselves to the top of the rung, but just stay loyal to your group, learn as much as you can and try to overlook those that bring dark clouds to the martial arts. That storm soon passes for what it is truly worth. Charlie Veuleman ===== ------------------------------------- L. Charles Veuleman Natchitoches Karate Institute 204 Rapides Drive Natchitoches, LA 71457 318-356-7727 http://www.bluewavekarate.com ------------------------------------- Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 7:48:46 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] USKA ? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > As for calling the style Tang Soo Do, NO. Just No. If you don't want > to call us Tae Kwon Do, you may call us Korean Karate, since that seems > to be a better reference anyway. Our group is very American-ized. > Master chittim once said (talking about using foreign commands in > class) "if talking korean or japanese will make me a better fighter, > I'll talk korean and japanese". Mr Chittim Spoke fluent redneck only. You must know Joe Dupaquier then... ??? I think he came up under Dr. David Jordan who studied under Master Atlee Chittim. Are you part of the USKA (United States Karate Alliance)? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Chris Hamilton EZ Lock" To: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:08:35 -0500 Organization: EZ Lock Incorporated Subject: [The_Dojang] Gen. Choi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It is a sad thing to hear of General Choi's death. His passing is surely a loss to all practitioners of Korean martial arts. Regardless of style, I think that we are all indebted, to a degree, for the efforts, and vision of the older generation of Korean Masters like Gen. Choi. Although I do not practice ITF Taekwondo, I still recognize Gen. Choi as being an innovator, and a driving force for the promotion of Korean martial arts in the west, and for this I must thank him. I extend my heartfelt consolations to the family and students of General Choi. Chris Hamilton Han Mu Do --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] GM Choi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> It is with great sadness and a feeling of unprecedented personal loss, that I inform all Taekwon-Do practitioners worldwide of the death of my father General Choi Hong Hi, the Founder of Taekwon-Do, on the evening of Saturday the 15th June in the city of Pyong Yang in North Korea. <> Dear Master Choi Jung Hwa, Few who practice Taekwon-Do, Tang Soo Do, Su Bhak Do or Kong Soo Do can deny the impact your father had on their art. After many years as a leader and pioneer I can but hope he has found a peacefull final resting. Be Well, Charles Richards Moja Kwan Tang Soo Do Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:03:08 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] www.itf-generalchoi.com Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net fyi, condolences may be left for Grandmaster Choi at his website: http://www.itf-generalchoi.com Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Farral, Kim" To: 'DoJang Digest' Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:05:17 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] General Choi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I am very sorry to hear of General Choi's passing...my deepest sympathy to his survivors...TKD and the Martial Arts in general have suffered a great loss... the following is from a fellow 5th Dan: "Even General Choi can't live forever, except in our hearts and minds. Oh, and of course in the legacy he built." K. G. Farral Staff Mechanical Engineer ITT Industries 7310 Innovation Blvd. P.O. Box 731 Ft. Wayne, Indiana 46801-0731 Ph: (219) 451-5312 Fax: (219) 451-5476 kim.farral@itt.com ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] --__--__-- Message: 9 From: MSKBEvans@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:24:40 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] testing gifts. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> If a student offered to give me a "gift" at test time. I'd ask for "pay on time" and "work hard in class" maybe even help pick up equipment after class. The whole idea of a test gift seems odd to me. It almost like a bribe to make sure you pass. Which of course makes the test meaningless. IMHO of course Bill Evans --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:32:46 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Bert Edens Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] testing gifts. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > If a student offered to give me a "gift" at test time. I'd ask for > "pay on >time" and "work hard in class" maybe even help pick up equipment after >class. The whole idea of a test gift seems odd to me. It almost like a >bribe to make sure you pass. Which of course makes the test meaningless. >IMHO of course >Bill Evans Greetings, Mr. Evans... Yes, I see your point there... And of course, the gift is upon passing the test, not taking it... :) And remember that in Asian culture, especially Korean, it's expected that students get gifts for their instructors. And since I've been no-changed as a color belt, I know "bribing" isn't going to work... :) Thanks for your time and thoughts! <> - Bert Edens 1st Degree Recommended, Level 2 Springdale, Arkansas --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:36:15 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Bert Edens Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] testing gifts. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > If a student offered to give me a "gift" at test time. I'd ask for > "pay on >time" and "work hard in class" maybe even help pick up equipment after >class. The whole idea of a test gift seems odd to me. It almost like a >bribe to make sure you pass. Which of course makes the test meaningless. >IMHO of course >Bill Evans Oh and one other thing... :) I will be testing at a regional testing, not at our school... So my instructor won't even be on the testing panel... :-) <> - Bert --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:11:13 -0400 From: "Rudy Timmerman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Gifts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Randall writes: > Anyway, it got me thinking. What gifts have y'all gotten for > your instructors for your dan testings, if you do? Hi Randall: In the old days, this token of appreciation was something we all did. When we did give this token of appreciation, it came from the heart. It was not asked for or expected. I think today very few students even think about telling their Instructors "thanks". Just one more way the arts are changing I guess. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 13 From: "Richard Goater" To: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 00:08:40 +0100 Subject: [The_Dojang] Kuk Sool Won Weapons Question Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi all, I'm interested in Kuk Sool Won, but I can't believe there are 27 different weapons in the syllabus, for which I can find no information on the net. Could someone list them all for me please? Also, when do you start practising them, as I would have thought that it would take a long time from BB to get to grips with them all... Thanks in advance. Bill. --__--__-- Message: 14 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, policedo@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:37:20 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] Sport TKD Calendar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The_Dojang's calendar of Sport Taekwondo Events June 17, 2002 http://MartialArtsResource.com http://the-dojang.net Dates and locations subject to change. 2002 ITF Gateway Intl June 21-22 Springfield, Missouri European Champs for Teams June 28-30 Madrid, Spain ITF Taekwon-Do Intl Champs June 29 Eschwege, Germany USTU Junior Olympic TKD June 30-July 6 Minneapolis, Minnesota 5th Intl Chungcheong Open July 3-5 Cheongju, Korea AAU National TKD Champs July 3-6 Greensboro, North Carolina PATU Summer Camp July 5-14 Seoul, Korea ITF Arkansas State Champs July 6 Hope, Arkansas GTF World Champs July 11-14 Toronto, Canada California State Games July 13 San Diego, California Central Jamaica Champs July 13 Mandeville, Jamaica United ITF Australia Tasmanian July 13 Launceston, Tasmania, Aus ITF 2002 US Open July 13 Las Vegas, Nevada OTC Elite Training Camp July 13-14 Colorado Springs, Colorado British Open July 13-14 Isleworth, England World Cup 2002 July 16-19 Tokyo, Japan 2002 Gladiator Games July 19-21 San Jose, California 2002 World Cup July 23-36 Tokyo, Japan USTF Summer Nationals July 26-27 Hot Springs, Arkansas Greater Western Champs July 28 Penrith, Australia Mexican Open Aug TBD ITF Asian Taekwon-Do Champs Aug 2-3 Astana, Kazakhstan 2nd Annual Female Athletes Camp Aug 2-8 Larkspur, Colorado 3rd Best of the Best Aug 3 Irvine, California AAU Junior Olympic Games Aug 7-10 Knoxville, Tennessee 2002 Master Instructor Licensing Aug 9-10 Colorado Springs, Colorado GTF USTF Tourny Aug 10 Longview, Texas 3rd Korea Open Chuncheon Intl Aug 14-19 Chuncheon, Korea 2nd Canadian Open Aug 16-18 Brampton, Ontario, Canada Flight of the Eagle Aug 17 Loveland, Ohio USTU Presidents Cup Aug 24 Anaheim, California US National Team Trials Aug 24-25 Colorado Springs, Colorado Carolina Open Sept 7 Rock Hill, South Carolina ITF Battle of the Belts Sept 7 Springfield, Missouri ITF Queensland Champs Spet 8 Bundaberg, Queensland, Aus ITF PanAm Cup Sept 9-13 Quebec, Canada Tae Kuk Mu Sul TKD Gold Cup Sept 14 Sacramento, California Southern Highlands Champs Sept 14 Moss Vale, Australia US Won 1st Las Vegas Open Sept 21 Las Vegas, Nevada NC AAU Fall Classic Sept 21 Fayetteville, North Carolina Mid-American Junior Invitational Sept 28 Oxford, Ohio ITF Artic Cup Sept 28-29 Tromsoe, Norway Junior World TKD Champs Oct 1-6 Hiraklion, Crete, Greece United ITF Australian Champs Oct 4-5 Melbourne, Australia GTF USTF Tourny Oct 5 Shreveport, Louisiana ITF USTF Region 1 Champs Oct 5 Las Vegas, Nevada United ITF Australasian Oct 5-6 Auckland, New Zealand Best of the Best Oct 6 Pennsauken, New Jersey 13th Pan-Am TKD Champs Oct 9-12 Quito, Ecuador 14th Asian Games Oct 10-13 Busan, Korea 2002 Master Instructor Licensing Oct 11-12 Dallas, Texas 16th US Martial Arts Champs Oct 12 Youngstown, Ohio 2nd International Champs Oct 17-20 New Delhi, India BUTF ITF British Open Oct 19 London, England 22nd Tekno Ft. Worth Intl Oct 19-20 Ft. Worth, Texas 1st Electrolux ITF Australasian Oct 19-20 Sydney, Australia 1st Swedish Open Oct 19-20 Malmo, Sweden 14th World Military TKD Games Oct 22-25 Ft. Hood, Texas Lee's Invitational Oct 26 Canberra, Australia National Collegiate Champs Nov 1-2 Puerto Rico GTF USTF Tourny Nov 2 Harrison, Arkansas 6th World Junior ITF Champs Nov 7-11 Buenos Aires, Argentina Western Intl Champs Nov 9 Las Vegas, Nevada Garden State Nov 11 Rahway, New Jersey National Han Ma Dang Nov 16 TBD ITF Goodwill Champs Nov 16 Bridgeport, Connecticut ITF World Junior Champs Dec 2-9 Puerto Rico 19th Central American & Caribbean Dec 3-7 San Salvador, El Salvador USTF Winter Nationals Dec 6-7 Hot Springs, Arkansas 18th Boeskool Trophy Dec 14 Oldenzall, Netherlands 2003 11th Pan Arab Games TBD Algeria 8th All Africa Games TBD Abuja, Nigeria AAU National TKD Champs TBD Knoxville, Tennessee Moja Kwan Invitational March Cherokee County, Georgia 2nd Pan Am Junior March Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ITF North American Champs April Ottawa, Canada 14th European Junior TKD Champs May Athens, Greece 13th World ITF Seniors June 12-15 Warsaw, Poland 12th South Pacific Games June 28-July 12 Suva, Fiji 14th Pan American Games Aug 1-17 Santo Domingo, Dominican Rep 3rd World Military Games Aug-Sept Madrid, Spain 9th Women's World TKD Champs Sept 22-28 Garmisch, Germany 16th World TKD Champs Sept 22-28 Garmisch, Germany 22nd World University Games Sept 24-28 Taegu, Korea 22nd Southeast Asian Games Oct HoChiMinh City, Vietnam World Quals for Athens Nov TBD Olympic Games TKD Test Event Nov-Dec Athens, Greece 7th African Champs or early 2004 Accra, Ghana 2004 13th Women's European Senior TKD May 4-9 Lillehammer, Norway 15th European Senior TKD Champs May 4-9 Lillehammer, Norway 8th World University Champs June 1-3 Patra, Greece 2004 Olympic Games Aug 26-29 Athens, Greece 2005 4th East Asian Games TBD Macao, China ITF Senior World Champs TBD Uzbekistan 2006 15th Asian Games Dec 11-14 Doha, Qatar Please submit updates and corrections. Ray Terry California Taekwondo and Hapkido The_Dojang, your discussion forum for the Korean Martial Arts http://MartialArtsResource.com http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 15 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:59:26 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] Temple Stay: A Glimpse at Another World Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Temple Stay: A Glimpse at Another World June 17, 2002 Picture this: getting up at the crack of dawn while listening to the sounds of wooden gourds and the chanting of sutras, partaking in a spiritual tea ceremony and meditating with Korean Buddhist monks. Whether it's those wishing to sample a bite of traditional Korea, or others just wanting to get away from the worries of hectic urban life, there is a program which provides participants chances to leave refreshed with a long-lasting impression of "The Land of the Morning Calm." >From May 20, some of South Korea's finest temples have been opening their doors to foreigners visiting Korea for the World Cup finals through an innovative temple stay program run by the Jogye Order. Currently being held at 33 temples across the nation until the end of the World Cup finals on June 30, the temple stay program provides a rare glimpse at the simple life a Korean monk leads. Based on the feedback received from those who have taken part so far, the program seems to be a great success. "We have received very positive responses from participants, with no major problems reported so far," said Youn Young-hee, a Jogye Order official. Although brief temple tours and Buddhist culture classes had been offered to foreign visitors in the past, this is the first time temples have initiated an overnight program, she said. The program introduces various aspects of temple life that Korean Buddhist monks have led for more than 1,600 years, such as morning "yebul" (ceremony), meditation and "Balwugongyang" (traditional Buddhist meal ceremony). Other activities such as making lotus lanterns and woodblock printing are also prepared to give participants a chance to experience traditional Buddhist culture first-hand. Upon checking in, participants receive simple monk robes to wear and are introduced to basic temple manners, such as traditional Buddhist greetings or "hapjang," which they are expected to follow throughout their stay. "I thought it would be an interesting option to go and stay in a temple and experience Buddhism for the first time," Umesh Malhotra, 33, told The Korea Times while making a lotus lantern at Bongeun-sa, one of the participating temples in the program. A Korean-style Buddhist temple situated right next to the sprawling COEX (Convention & Exhibition Center) in southern Seoul, Bongeun-sa has been a popular choice for temple stay visitors for its convenient location and beautiful temple grounds. Malhotra came from India with his wife and an eight-year-old son for the World Cup and chanced upon the temple stay program through the Internet. Assessing the overall program to be "well paced and thoroughly enjoyable," the Indian businessman said it was one of the best choices his family made for their trip to Seoul. Language did not prove to be a problem during their stay, as more than enough volunteers were at hand to serve as translators and lead participants through each part of the program, he said. Volunteers were selected among worshippers at the participating temples, adding further appeal to the whole experience by giving foreigners a localnulls perspective of what modern South Korea is really like. "It's been fun and really nice to not only to learn about Buddhism, but to spend time with local people," said Heather Bryan, who came from Britain. "It's really rewarding to volunteer, as one gets the chance to introduce our culture to foreign visitors, while learning about our culture at the same time," says Pea So-rim, a middle school teacher in Seoul. Pea enjoyed being with the visitors so much that she even called in sick for a day so that she could spend the whole two-day program with them. "As 65 percent of Korean culture is related to Buddhism, the temple stay program is not just about sharing Buddhism. It is also about introducing Korea's unique culture to the world," said Joung He-la, 53, another volunteer. The Balwugongyang, which refers to a monk's traditional meal, "gongyang," ceremony using special "balwu" bowls, is definitely one of the highlights of the program. The whole procedure of distributing and eating the food in the shiny brown bowls, as well the act of wiping the bowls clean after eating the meal, is conducted in a complicated yet graceful ritual. Every careful gesture is made in silence, save for the sound of the striking of the bamboo stick, which guides the people along. Whether it's waking up at 4 a.m. to participate in the early morning Buddhist ceremony, trying the vegetarian temple-style meals or struggling to stay in the lotus position during meditation, the foreign visitors seem to enjoy their quest for complete peace of body and spirit. With the success of the temple stay program, organizers said they plan to run it on a regular basis for foreigners until after the FIFA World Cup finals. About 500 foreigners had signed up as of mid-June, with some 300 having already finished their programs, they added. But due to a lack of publicity and the open schedule, only a handful of participants stayed at each temple at a time, a far cry from the numbers the organizers had initially anticipated. They were capable of housing as many as 68,000 people during the 42-day period, with between 10 and 100 guests per day at each temple. "We are considering taking a more systematic approach, such as designating a set period for each temple to conduct the program or making the temples take turns running it," said Youn. The details will be made public after an overall evaluation of the program is completed, she added. What Is Temple Stay? The "Temple Stay" program, the first of its kind in Korea, gives foreigners an invaluable chance to experience a full day at a Buddhist temple. Usually starting in the afternoon and finishing until noon the next day, participants will be able to join in various Buddhist ceremonies and rituals, such as meditation and making Buddhist lanterns, as well savoring the unique experience of sleeping at a temple. Organized by the Jogye Order, the largest Buddhist sect in the country, a total 33 temples across the country are participating, with 30 of them located near the 10 World Cup host cities. Fees are 30,000 to 50,000 won ($25-40) per person, and reservations must be made two days in advance. The program will conclude on June 30 with the end of the World Cup finals. For more information, visit www.templestaykorea.net or call the temple stay coordinator's office at (82-2) 732-9925. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest