Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #308 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Hello & Intro (Ray Terry) 3. Happy B-Day to us (Ray Terry) 4. Korean War Veterans National Museum and Library (Ray Terry) 5. one more (Ray Terry) 6. Wildbill (Ray Terry) 7. Re: indomitable spirit (Laurie S.) 8. Re: GEN. CHOI, HONG HI (Robert Martin) 9. World Taekwondo Festival 2002 and 5th Korea Open (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 09:38:46 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Grand Opening - Houston Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello to all DD Members, Well, we are one week away from the big Grand Opening Celebration and Demonstration. If any DD members are in the area, please come by and say hello!!! Saturday June 29, 2002 Open House 10:00 a.m. Master's Demonstration 12:00 p.m. Master's scheduled to appear Master Troy Trudeau, 7th degree Black Belt Tae Sool Won Chief Master World Tae Sool Association, National Korean Martial Art Association Master "Mac" McHenry, 6th degree Black Belt Tang Soo Do United States Korean Martial Art Federation Master Jackie Smith, 5th degree Black Belt Tae Kwon Do World Tae Sool Association, National Korean Martial Art Association Master Chris Evans, 5th degree Black Belt Kenpo World Tae Sool Association, National Korean Martial Art Association A world wide Thank You (Kahm SaHa Ni Dah) to these gentleman for helping to make this grand opening one the Houston Area will not soon forget. We have a professional photographer video taping the event and a reporter from Health and Fitness Sports Magazine will be in attendance. I am very excited to have this opportunity to give back to the community which I grew up. Sincerely, Kat Kelly Braeswood Martial Art Center www.braeswoodmartialart.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Hello & Intro To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 8:47:09 PDT Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I've been lurking for a few days, and interested in the coversations I've > seen so far, but kind of shy until you get to know me! Welcome! Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 9:04:16 PDT Subject: [The_Dojang] Happy B-Day to us Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The_Dojang is now 8 years old. Happy Birthday to us! Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Korean War Veterans National Museum and Library Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Given the anniversary of the start of the Korean War is almost upon us, I offer the following link... http://www.theforgottenvictory.org Ray Terry --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 11:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] one more Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just one more Korean War link, of possible interest... http://www.koreanwar.org/index1.html Ray Terry --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Wildbill Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just a warning to the wise. This was taken from our Eskrima list, but this fellow may decide to also 'explore' the Korean arts sometime in the future. He may use the following email addrs, as well as others. wildbill9999@hotmail.com afvet01@yahoo.com wekaf1@hotmail.com bkneitinger@hotmail.com What you see below is a VERY mild example of what he is capable. Be careful out there... Ray -------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tye W. Botting" Organization: Tye's Kung Fu Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 01:44:44 -0500 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Sheesh! Look what our old gadfly Bill Kneitinger is up to now... I recently got notified of this guestbook entry by him on my kung fu website (I guess he had to lash out there, since I don't have a guestbook on the Modern Arnis one...) Ah, isn't it great to have net-stalkers? I know a number of the rest of you have received countless formulaic requests for advice from him, and then had him get irate when you didn't respond to such impersonal spam emails, so this should be no surprise to you co-sufferers... I can tell you I'm pretty much guaranteed not to feel like helping him after this kind of behavior. No matter how many people you do help, there's always someone like him making you wonder why you even bother to try. Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:07:52 -0500 From: wildbill9999@hotmail.com (bk) Tye's Kung Fu Guestbook: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bk from The Internet wrote on June 21. 2002: =========================================================================== I have tried to contact Dr. Botting via e-mail but for months he has ignored me. Makes you wonder why don't it? I can only hope that he feels inclined to assist me one day. =========================================================================== -- Dr. Tye W. Botting Northern Shaolin / Northern Praying Mantis tye@kungfu.cc Remy Presas' Modern Arnis http://www.kungfu.cc Yang Style Taijiquan -- __--__-- From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 06:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] More on Wildbill Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Look what our old gadfly Bill Kneitinger is up to now... > > I recently got notified of this guestbook entry by him on my kung fu website > (I guess he had to lash out there, since I don't have a guestbook on the > Modern Arnis one...) Ah, isn't it great to have net-stalkers? I know a > number of the rest of you have received countless formulaic requests > for advice from him, and then had him get irate when you didn't respond > to such impersonal spam emails, so this should be no surprise to you > co-sufferers... Yes, he is a well known and well documented nut case. Many have had problems with him. All should stay well clear of him. Ray Terry --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Laurie S." To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 19:21:34 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: indomitable spirit Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net That was a inspiring post. We also have a girl in a wheelchair. She is also a champ in forms. She also has a great eye for detail. Eventhough she can't use her legs, she helped me with technique (in forms) many times. She's amazing. Laurie green belt TKD (5th gup TSD) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Robert Martin" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:52:07 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: GEN. CHOI, HONG HI Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Grand Master Cho, I am not an official with the ITF. However, on behalf of ITF students and instructors I thank you for your kind words regarding our founder. You have proven, once again, the kind of gentleman that you truly are. Taekwon, Robert Martin 4th Dan ITF/USTF > Message: 3 > From: HenryCho@aol.com > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:02:02 EDT > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [The_Dojang] GEN. CHOI, HONG HI > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > Dear fellow martial artists: > > I have just learned that General Choi, Hong Hi, the president and founder of > the ITF, had passed away on June 15, 2002. It is a disturbing news to me and > I am sure it is to you too. I would like to take this opportunity to send my > condolences to Mrs. Choi and his children. > > Looking back into the past, we find that Gen. Choi was a controversial figure > in some ways; with his politics and philosophy. His voluntary involvement and > siding with North Korean government had betrayed the trust of leadership in > the eyes of his South Korean followers and it had led him into being > criticized by many of them including most of the South Korean martial artists > throughout the world. No matter what political views he chose to take, it was > the decision he made for himself and it should only be judged by historians. > > Many people disagreed with him that he was 'the Father of Tae Kwon Do' > because he unified the terminology for the Korean Martial Arts under the name > of 'Tae Kwon Do', the name he had named first. Moreover, his promoting > himself as if he were the creator of the art itself because of the naming of > Tae Kwon Do has left a bitter taste to many intellectuals. Then, people would > ask, 'Who is the father of Buddhism'? 'Judo'? 'Boxing'? I am sure Gen. Choi > would try to avoid answering such questions. > > However, we all remember him as one who had helped promote the art of Tae > Kwon Do in many ways. Through his books and publications, he had been > reaching many readers as well as practitioners of the art of TKD. He had been > attending many tournaments and seminars where he had demonstrated his > ultimate eagerness for the art. No one seems to disagree with the fact that > he had spent most part of his retired life with and for the art. I am > therefore proudly recommend that we, all the martial artists, ought to thank > him for that. > > Thank you Gen. Choi for everything you had done for us. Rest now in > everlasting peace! Good bye and God bless General Choi, Hong Hi! > > June 18, 2002 > > S. Henry Cho --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] World Taekwondo Festival 2002 and 5th Korea Open Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net World Taekwondo Festival 2002 and 5th Korea Open Jun. 28 - Jul. 7, 2002 Cheongju Sports Stadium, Cheongju City Description: The World Taekwondo Festival 2002 will be open in the heart of Korea's beautiful city, Cheongju, the center of Northern Chungcheong Province. Taekwondo is not simply a competitive sport. It is a martial art of skill combined with concentration and self-discipline. Since the International Olympic Committee (IOC), recognizing the educational value and wealth of tradition Taekwondo espouses, nominated the sport as an official Olympic event. The popularity of Taekwondo has gone beyond its national confines, attracting followers around the world. The World Taekwondo Festival 2002 will convene enthusiasts from across the globe to the native heartland of Taekwondo to further instill the basic philosophy of the art. The festival will combine cultural tours with a variety of programs for what will be a memorable experience for athletes, participants and observers. Main Events: Taekwondo training and tours, Oriental Medicine and acupuncture demonstrations, routine movement demonstrations, breaking bricks and blocks, sparring, Korean traditional arts performances, Korea Open International Taekwondo Convention, International Taekwondo Exhibition, field trips highlighting Korean culture, etc. Tel:82-43-220-4253 Fax:82-43-220-4259 Homepage: www.tkdfamily.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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