Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:16:20 -0500 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #325 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Black Labs and Martial Arts (Ken McDonough) 3. RE: irime nage (Sun Mu Kwan-USA) 4. Best MA/Sang Moo Sa (Sun Mu Kwan-USA) 5. Color Codes / Belt Colors / Defensive Living / Irimi / Alain (TNTcombatives@aol.com) 6. [Eskrima] From Tuhon Bill (Ray Terry) 7. Kukkiwon textbook... (J Thomas Howard) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:24:28 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] BMAC Grand Opening Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thank you to all who participated and helped to make our grand opening such as success. Mother nature seemed to throw us a few blows but I feel we had a great turn out. I will never be able to thank Masters' Trudeau, McHenry, Smith and Evans enough for coming and bring their very best with them. A huge and special thanks to KSN Mindy and Keith and PSBN Richard for their contribution. Master's Trudeau, Smith & Evans along with PSBN Richard traveled many hundreds of miles and arrived at daybreak the morning of our grand opening. I am truly honored by their dedication to support fellow martial artists and school owners. I dare to say our demonstration was one of the first of its kind in the Houston area. We were honored by our special guest, Walter who came from Dallas through some fierce thunderstorms to join us. I should be receiving the video tape within the next few weeks and will make sure the web-site is updated ASAP. I would also like to thank Master McHenry and Walter for their kind posts here on the DD. I hope to attend Master West's August seminar and bring a few very excited students. sincerely, Kat --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:20:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken McDonough To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Black Labs and Martial Arts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Big Mike noted: Response: Yes, this geezer should have done this earlier ! The 57 Chevy is getting a new radiator and power steering conversion. Anyway, last summer we had to put down "Lady", my 14 year old Black Lab who came to us when we were in California. Great companion. Taught her the "fight" command and she would only wrestle with me, not the kids. Smart dog ! Last month, we searched for another black lab and obtained "Missy". We are crate training her now. She has learned the sit command. I am now teaching her the "fight" command and she is starting to attack me pretty good and throws a mean jab. Cheers, Ken McD... Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:25:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: irime nage Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net << So my question for the Hapkido teachers is: Do you know the Irime Nage of Aikido? Do you teach it in your Hapkido curriculum? Is this standard in Hapkido curriculum or is it added by certain Hapkido masters who may have greater knowledge or experience of Aikido.? Master JR West who is also ranked in Aikido would be of help here. Jose>> The International HKD Federation uses this technique as well as other techniques seen in aikido. For further information on this topic visit my website at www.ushankido.org New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:28:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Best MA/Sang Moo Sa Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Here is their new contact information: Sang Moo Sa 7120 Alondra Blvd,Paramount, CA 90723 (562) 251-1600 New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access --__--__-- Message: 5 From: TNTcombatives@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:32:19 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Color Codes / Belt Colors / Defensive Living / Irimi / Alain Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings All, I think Ray is on the right track. Anytime we do entry or high risk ops, instructors seem to reference Ayoob on the Black Color of chaos/panic. When I teach use of force for MA schools, I use their basic belt rank system to help them understand that when they fight, they should be fighting with the seriousness of a blackbelt. I personally favor the cheese method ranking system: It starts as white (milk). As it gains experience (ages), it turns yellow (butter). Soon the color changes to orange (cheese). As the cheese ages, it soon molds....green, purple, brown. Once it has molded as much as it can, it soon turns black.........perhaps the DD should adopt this rank system for the TGT....with grandpoobah sensei supreme sabum 25th degree dan approval of course. Defensive Living is about 100 pages. The authors have been there and done that, and are respected in the Tactical and LE community. The topics covered include awareness, mindset, dangers, force continuum, survival stress and conditioned responses, legalities, first aid, travel safety, driving safety, personal defense handgun skills, home defense and confrontation tactics. It is a very good collection of thoughs and ideas on personal safety. It is only about $10, and can be found through Looseleaf Law Publications at www.looseleaflaw.com. I recommend this book to anyone who wants to increase their personal safety knowledge. I have always had irimi described and used as 'entering'. Whenever used, it is the response to an attack where you parry, move toward your opponent's center and begin to blend with the attack in preparation to redirect the energy. fwiw. Alain - it seems the wife has plotted the vacation course several hundred miles north. I will make it, just not this summer. :-( my loss. Mark Gajdostik TNT-Police Combatives --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] [Eskrima] From Tuhon Bill Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Cross-posting from the Eskrima/FMA list. Of possible interest... Ray ================================================================= Why I haven't written: (subtitled: Help, I am being held hostage by a 30" midget pretending to be a 17 month old todler!) As the dad's on the list know your time is not your own with a young child in the house. Between family, work, martial arts and running Pekiti-Tirsia International, I have had little time for writing lately. My appologies if I offended anyone with my post "From a marine". I received it via email, liked what he said about violence, and did a quick post to the digest. To make ammends here is an article from an upcoming issue of the PTI newsletter. I plan on submitting it to the martial arts mags, so if you have any suggestions or favorite drills that would fit the article, please send them my way. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath SURVIVAL DRILLS-BEYOND SPARRING By Tuhon Bill McGrath Basic symmetrical sparring, with two evenly matched opponents, is a great way to introduce midlevel students to the skills they need for combat. They can stay there their whole martial arts careers if all they are going to fight in are tournaments. Things are different in a real fight though. Success is defined not by scoring more points, or even knocking your opponent out, but by your coming out of the altercation in as close to the same physical condition as you went into it as possible. Unless you are a law enforcement officer, on the street your mind should be focused on the word "Escape" rather than on "Win." One concept you must understand is that real street attacks are rarely as symmetrical as a regular sparring match. Seldom on the street are you attacked by someone your size, your age and armed with the exact same weapon as you are carrying. Usually street attacks are more asymmetrical. The opponent (or opponents) is larger or stronger, has superior numbers or is better armed than the person he is attacking. If they didn't think the odds were in their favor, they wouldn't attack you in the first place. Therefore, to prepare for the real world we need to make our sparring reflect this asymmetrical aspect. The following drills should help. Note: Keep each "round" of fighting to 5 to 10 seconds since it is in this timeframe that most real fights are won or lost. Students should fight no more than four rounds in a row both as a safety factor and to add realism, since most real fights are of short duration. I like these drills for advanced students who have already gotten their basics down. GRAB BAG SPARRING. Take a variety of practice weapons and paint numbers on them. Have practice versions of knives, sticks, pipes (I wrap a rattan stick with gray tape to signify a heavy pipe) a machete' (here I use red tape), a rolled up newspaper, a length of rope with a rubber ball at the end to signify a belt with a heavy buckle, a leather jacket, etc. Let's say you come up with 10 different weapons. Line these up on the floor. Now take 11 slips of paper and write a number (1 to 11) on each slip. Put the slips in a hat and let the students pick a number. Whatever they come up with, that is what they will fight with. As you probably have already guessed, if they draw an 11, they fight without a weapon. Stage 2 is to let the students pick two slips of paper each and fight with what ever comes out of the hat in doble' or espada y daga style. Note: If you see a great disparity of force (i.e. large student with a "machete" vs. small student with a "knife") try to even things out by going two on one and giving the smaller student a partner. STREET WALK 1. Two opponents start to walk towards each other from opposite sides of the school on opposing parallel lines (like you would when two people walk down the street towards each other). Teacher gives the "go" signal to fight at any time, either approaching or when the students have passed each other. STREET WALK 2. One student plays bad guy and chooses distance to attack (or whether to attack at all). STREET WALK 3. Three or more "bad guys" walk towards the "good guy". Only one of the bad guys will attack, but when and who is unknown to the good guy. STREET WALK 4. Similar to 3 except 1, 2 or 3 students can attack. Good guy student's job is to escape through a door or to a "safe" zone marked on floor. He can't attack someone unless they first attack him. BODYGUARD 1. You and a "non-combatant" (such as a child or elderly person), are attacked and you must get the non-combatant to safety. What are the differences in strategy when protecting an adult who can run vs. protecting a young child who cannot? BODYGUARD 2. Full combatant partnered with semi-combatant. My Penchak instructor called this "husband and wife training." In a standoff, wife can guide husband backwards towards safety while he keep an eye on the bad guys. During an altercation, wife watches husband's back and gets in a hit when needed. HOME INVASION 1. Put a line of tape on the floor to make a "doorway". Student 1 stands before the door. Student 2 faces him. It is student 2's job to get through the door and it is student 1's job to prevent him. (I tell student 1 to think that his family is behind the door and student 2 is a home invader. Conversely, I tell student 2 that student 1 is an invader who has broke into his home and that a second invader is in the room with his wife and kids. Therefore each student in his own mind is playing the "good guy".) HOME INVASION 2. This is best done in a real doorway, (choose one without glass in it or near it). Student is answering his front door. Three opponents are outside of the home. When door opens bad guys try to push their way in. Good guy defends with hands, knife, stick, machete, handgun or long gun. Space and time limitations come into play (how fast can they enter vs. how fast can you put them all down) as well as the use of the door itself as a shield or a weapon. BASIC PRACTICE: You can work principals you will need for combat into your everyday practice. THREE PARTNERS 1: When partnering up to practice a technique, partner up by threes instead of by twos. Student 1 does the technique one time on student 2 then one time on student 3. Then student 2 becomes the "good guy" and does the technique on student 1 then student 3. Next student 3 becomes the good guy and practices on students 2 and 1. Practicing this way helps prevent the tunnel vision that can lead you to focus too much on opponent 1 while opponent 2 is stabbing you in the back. THREE PARTNERS 2. Like TP1 except on the instructor's signal, one student from each group will leave and go to another group. THE CATERPILLAR. Students form two lines. The students in Line 1 are the attackers and they hold their positions during the drill. Line 2 are the defenders and they will move during the drill. The signal is given and each student in Line 1 attacks the student in front of him in Line 2. Students in Line 2 defend using a specific technique. On a signal from the instructor, each student in Line 2 moves one place to his right coming before a new opponent. The student at the end of Line 2 runs off the line and circles to the beginning of the line. Once Line 2 has made a complete circuit, the lines change tasks and Line 2 becomes the attackers and Line 1 the defenders. Keep this drill simple at first. Use one specific attack and one specific counter until everyone has had a chance to both attack and defend. Then you can compare different defenses. Have a round of "Attack 1 vs. Defense 1" then a round of "Attack 1 vs. Defense 2". This drill helps the students become familiar with working with different body types and skill levels. It also helps them analyze a technique and understand its strengths and weaknesses (i.e. "Defense 1" might be better against a left jab from an opponent who is taller than you, but "Defense 2" might be better against a left jab if the opponent is shorter than you). _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 7 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:06:32 -0500 (CDT) From: thomcat@binary.net (J Thomas Howard) Subject: [The_Dojang] Kukkiwon textbook... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > From: "Laurie S." > Subject: [The_Dojang] WTF Manual > > I have a question. This came up in another messege board. Someone said that > the WTF has a manual (belt requirements, forms, step sparring, ect, ect). Is > this true? If so, where can I find it? Is it in English? www.turtlepress.com has the following: Official Kukkiwon Taekwondo Textbook By: Uhm Woon-kyu, et. al. Order Code: KWT Price: $89.00 This is the official Kukkiwon Textbook (hardcover) for WTF style taekwondo. It contains over 700 pages of in depth taekwondo history, philosophy, techniques and training methods including information that cannot be found in any other source. Includes two VHS video tapes detailing the non-black belt and black belt poomse. ---------------------------- I'll note that the "non-black belt" part only includes the Taegueks, for the videos. However, the book does have the powges in it. The packaging does say it is the "official" and recognized Kukkiwon textbook for WTF style taekwondo. I haven't looked through it in as much detail as I'd like to (been spending a lot more time on Hapkido, in prep for my test which I managed to survive, somehow) but it is quite a reference. Expensive, but pretty comprehensive. Anyone have this one? Comments? Thomas --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest