Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:52:24 -0500 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #342 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Elvis (CKCtaekwon@cs.com) 3. Hwang Kee (Charles Richards) 4. Passing of KJN Hwang Kee (Ray Terry) 5. Re: Belt Promotions in Tae Kwon Do (Ray Terry) 6. From soobahkdo.com (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:37:34 +0200 From: Klaas Barends Organization: gbu~internetservices To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Subak Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [The_Dojang] Subak > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > "It is highly probable that shoubo, pronounced subak in Korean, was > introduced to Korea during the Former Han period. I was thaugt that the Korean word Subak means 'Watermelon'. :-) -- Kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.hapkido.nl/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:06:49 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Elvis Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net for an excellent article on who first promoted Elvis to Black Belt go to: http://www.tracyskarate.com/ Scroll down to: "Was Elvis really a black belt. click here." Gary Pieratt Castroville Karate Club www.askarate.com Under God Have a Great Day! --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 05:42:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Hwang Kee Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> <<<>>> OMG!!! He is the founder of TSD also. That's sad. That hit home with me. Wow. I'm speachless. Laurie green belt TKD (5th gup blue belt TSD) <> Laurie, FWIW Lee, Won Kuk is the founder of Chung Do Kwan Tang Soo Do circa 1944 and Hwang Kee was the founder of Moo Duk Kwan Hwa Soo Do circa 1945, which he changed to Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do later. Needless to say his "railroad dojangs" spread the art of Tang Soo Do, providing a great service to the Korean Martial Arts community. Needless to say if you practice Tang Soo Do or Soo Bak Do, in some way your heritage is tied to this legend. With great sorrow, Charles Richards Dan Bon 023720 Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Passing of KJN Hwang Kee Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: It is with great sadness that I report that Grandmaster Hwang Kee passed away on the morning of July 13, 2002. His contributions to the Korean Martial Arts Community as well as the Tang Soo Do artform are legendary. Among his legacy can be counted the following: The founding of the Moo Duk Kwan style of Tang Soo Do, the introduction of the lateral use of the hips into Korean Karate, the creation of the Gicho series of hyungs, the creation of the Chil Sung series of hyungs, he creation of Yuk Rho series of hyungs, the creation of Hwa Sung Hyung and many other martial arts innovations. Because of his tremendous influence in the Tang Soo Do artform, we the members of Tang Soo Do Mi Guk Kwan are especially saddened over his loss. Without KJN Hwang Kee's teachings which were received through his son SBN H. C. Hwang, SBN Robert Cheezic and SBN Robert E. Beaudoin, I would not have been able to create the Tang Soo Do Mi Guk Kwan art form. The loss of KJN Hwang Kee will have tremendous impact on the entire Korean martial arts community and will he will be dearly missed by all Tang Soo Do practitioners thoughout the world. On behalf of the entire Tang Soo Do Mi Guk Kwan Association, I offer our heartfelt condolences to his family, his students and followers where ever they might be. I pray that during this time we will all have the opportunity to reflect on just how the life work of KJN Hwang Kee has impacted each of our lives. With deep respect and sorrow, Charles Ferraro, President --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Belt Promotions in Tae Kwon Do To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > In Australia I have some confusion about the Belt Promotions in Tae > Kwon Do some Tojo's order with a Green belt while others don't.. > > Is a green belt a recognising order of seniority in Tae kwon Do. In general, yes. However remember that the gup (color) belt levels are not standardized. Thus it can, and usually will, vary from dojang to dojang. Some of the colors frequently used before black are white, yellow, green, blue, red, but other colors like orange, purple, brown and even camo are used in some TKD dojangs. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] From soobahkdo.com Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To: All members of the US Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Fed. From: Senior Advisory Committee (W.Y. Chung, L. Seiberlich, R. Hanke, V. Martinov) It is with great sorrow that we inform you that our Kwan Jang Nim, the founder of our Art, has passed away Sunday July 14th, 7:05 PM Korea time. Sa Bom Nim H.C. Hwang was with him at that time. He passed away peacefully. The Technical Advisory Committee is aware of the Kwan Jang Nim's passing, and is in communication with Sa Bom Nim H.C. Hwang. ****************************************************************** The Technical Advisory Committee joins with the Senior Advisory Committee, in expressing our sorrow at the passing of our beloved Kwan Jang Nim. We grieve with the Hwang family in this great loss. We should also at this time give thanks for the privilege of having him as long as we did, and for the immeasurable gifts he gave us. He was what legends are made of. All of us take great pride in our heritage. Join with us as we carry on his legacy. While it is no simple task to follow the greatest martial artist who ever lived, we will move to action with sureness and with hope. Our finest tribute is to carry on his work and to be the martial artists he would want us to be. Let us carry the Kwan Jang Nim in our hearts as we strive to make our art and our organization a living tribute to him. ********************************* The U.S. Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation's Board of Directors joins the Senior Advisory Committee and the Technical Advisory Committee,in grieving the loss ofKwan Jang Nim Hwang Kee. His physical absence shall be felt, but his indomitable spirit will live on in every current and future member of the U.S. Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation and the Board shall do its best topreserveand strengthen his legacy, our art and our Federation as a fitting "Living Memorial" to him. Condolences and best wishes to all the Hwang family. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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