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Today's Topics:

   1. "Do you come from a land down unda?" (Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov)
   2. Re:Could you explain this a little? (Beungood@aol.com)
   3. Re: Belt Promotions in Tae Kwon Do (Laurie S.)
   4. search engine changes (Ray Terry)
   5. Arirang Festival (Ray Terry)
   6. Re: Hwang Kee (Laurie S.)

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Message: 1
From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:55:36 -0500
Subject: [The_Dojang] "Do you come from a land down unda?"
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Dear Ray: 

".....Some of the colors frequently used before black are white, yellow,
green,
blue, red, but other colors like orange, purple, brown and even camo are
used in some TKD dojangs....." 

My understanding is that the color of the Australian guep belts begins with
red, goes to brown and continues in exactly the opposite progression as the
rank system as used in the Northern Hemisphere. But then, the same source
also told me that all Spin Kicks are executed in exactly the opposite
direction as up north.  I suppose I could be wrong. :-) 

Best Wishes, 

Bruce 

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Message: 2
From: Beungood@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:36:32 EDT
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Re:Could you explain this a little?
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

In a message dated 7/15/02 10:52:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes:


> The founding of the Moo
> Duk Kwan style of Tang Soo Do, the introduction of the lateral use of
> the hips into Korean Karate,

Could you explain this a little?

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Message: 3
From: "Laurie S." <karatekid1975@hotmail.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:02:20 -0400
Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Belt Promotions in Tae Kwon Do
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Mario wrote:

<<<<In Australia I have some confusion about the Belt Promotions in Tae
Kwon Do some Tojo's order with a Green belt while others don't..

Is a green belt a recognising order of seniority in Tae kwon Do.>>>>

Are you with the ITF, WTF, or some other org?

Anyways, I'm with the WTF, and we have green belt, which I just got 2 weeks 
ago. Our belt order goes: white, yellow stripe, yellow, green stripe, green, 
blue stripe, blue, brown stripe, brown, red stripe, red, 2 black stripes, 
then black. We also have what we call "tips". Which is smaller stripes (4) 
that we earn for forms, combos, step sparring, ect.

Hope this helped.

Laurie
Green belt TKD
(5th gup TSD)

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Message: 4
From: Ray Terry <rterry@idiom.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [The_Dojang] search engine changes
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Just a quick fyi on a recent change made to the search capability on
www.martialartsresource.com.

When searching back issues of the digest there are now two realms that you
may search.  The 'dojang' realm consists of the old issues of the digest plus
some other reference docs, e.g. the KMA FAQ.  The 'newdojang' realm consists
only of digest issues from this year.  

So what does all this mean?  If you go to the search page

   http://martialartsresource.com/korean/search/search.cgi

and do not make any changes to the defaults on that page, you will notice
no diff.  However if you choose to change the Search Index (realm) from
"All" to either "dojang" or "newdojang" you will limit your search as 
described above.

Any questions, let me know.

Thanks.
 
Ray Terry
rterry@idiom.com

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Message: 5
From: Ray Terry <rterry@idiom.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [The_Dojang] Arirang Festival
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Having drawn little international interest, Arirang Festival ends in North Korea

North Korea's mass gymnastic and artistic performances - the Arirang
Festival - ended yesterday, with the North failing to attain its goal of
drawing 200,000 foreigners to the event, officials in Seoul said yesterday.

In hopes of bringing in badly needed hard currency, North Korea had
stepped up its overseas publicity efforts for the festival, which began
April 29. It was originally scheduled to run through June 29, but was
extended by 15 days to attract more foreigners, including South Koreans.

"An exact record on the number of the audience members is not available,
but visitors to the North said the maximum number of foreign visitors a
day was no more than 800," a Unification Ministry official said.

The official said the festival failed to bear much fruit since North
Korea is not an attractive vacation destination for foreigners and South
Koreans could not attend in large groups.

Since the event opened, experts have said Arirang will not succeed
without South Korean participation.

The Seoul government did not allow South Koreans to visit the North to
attend the festival, which commemorates the 90th birthday of the late
North Korean founder Kim Il-sung, in fear of drawing criticism from
conservative forces.

Some South Koreans attended the performances on the sidelines of visits
to the North for which Seoul allowed them entry.

"I think the Arirang festival incurred a huge economic loss to North
Korea since it invested a huge amount of money and relied on droves of
people," the official said.

The extravaganza featured 100,000 gymnasts, entertainers and musicians
in Pyongyang's 150,000-seat May Day Stadium. The performance, running
one hour and 20 minutes, continued every day but Sundays from 8 p.m.

Government officials said North Korean participants in the performances
prepared for it for the past year and predicted many of them who do not reside
in Pyongyang might have had to stay in lodging facilities in the capital.

Analysts said that the Arirang festival offered a glimpse of positive
changes in the North.

"Even though the performances reflected its political propaganda, the North
stressed national reconciliation more than ever," a North Korea expert said.

By Seo Hyun-jin Staff reporter
shj@koreaherald.co.kr
2002.07.16

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Message: 6
From: "Laurie S." <karatekid1975@hotmail.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:23:26 -0400
Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hwang Kee
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Charles Richards wrote:

<<<<<Laurie,

FWIW Lee, Won Kuk is the founder of Chung Do Kwan Tang Soo Do circa
1944 and Hwang Kee was the founder of Moo Duk Kwan Hwa Soo Do circa
1945, which he changed to Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do later.

Needless to say his "railroad dojangs" spread the art of Tang Soo Do,
providing a great service to the Korean Martial Arts community.
Needless to say if you practice Tang Soo Do or Soo Bak Do, in some way
your heritage is tied to this legend. >>>>

Yes, sir. That's correct. I did Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan. Eventhough I do 
TKD now, I will never forget about him or what I learned in TSD. TSD was my 
first art, and always will be my first love as far as MA goes. Someday, I 
will learn it again and reach my prior goal in TSD.

That (the messege from Mr. Ferraro) was the most nicest thing I heard 
someone say about Hwang Kee. It brought a tear to my eye. Man, it's still a 
shock to me. I'm still in aw and sadened.

Laurie
Green belt TKD
(5th gup TSD)

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