Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:28:11 -0500 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #344 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sender: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Sport TKD Calendar (Ray Terry) 3. The Last Words of Gen. Choi Hong Hi (Ray Terry) 4. RE>belt testing (MW) 5. Memorial Seminar For GM Myong Jae Nam (Sun Mu Kwan-USA) 6. Re: Hwang Kee (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Chris Holmes" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:32:20 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Hwang Kee Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello all, I have a few quick questions about Gm Kee? First does anyone know how old he was? He had to be late 80's to early 90's I would think. Secondly why did he change the name of his art back to Soo Bak Do? Did he change anything from Moo Du Kwan Tang Soo Do? Thanks to all that care to respond! Sincerly Chris Holmes P.S Thanks for the info. a while back Mr. Terry. I also need to thank Mr. Brian Ingold, Mr. West, and Mr. Kirk Lawson for information they have given me on past posts. Sorry I did not send out thanks sooner and sorry if I missed anyone. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Sport TKD Calendar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The_Dojang's calendar of Sport Taekwondo Events July 16, 2002 http://MartialArtsResource.com http://the-dojang.net Dates and locations subject to change. 2002 World Cup 2002 July 16-19 Tokyo, Japan 2002 Gladiator Games July 19-21 San Jose, California 2002 World Cup July 23-36 Tokyo, Japan USTF Summer Nationals July 26-27 Hot Springs, Arkansas 10th USNTF TKD Champs July 26-28 River Grove, Illinois Greater Western Champs July 28 Penrith, Australia Mexican Open Aug TBD ITF Asian Taekwon-Do Champs Aug 2-3 Astana, Kazakhstan 2nd Annual Female Athletes Camp Aug 2-8 Larkspur, Colorado 3rd Best of the Best Aug 3 Irvine, California AAU Junior Olympic Games Aug 7-10 Knoxville, Tennessee 2002 Master Instructor Licensing Aug 9-10 Colorado Springs, Colorado GTF USTF Tourny Aug 10 Longview, Texas 3rd Korea Open Chuncheon Intl Aug 14-19 Chuncheon, Korea 2nd Canadian Open Aug 16-18 Brampton, Ontario, Canada Flight of the Eagle Aug 17 Loveland, Ohio USTU Presidents Cup Aug 24 Anaheim, California US National Team Trials Aug 24-25 Colorado Springs, Colorado Carolina Open Sept 7 Rock Hill, South Carolina ITF Battle of the Belts Sept 7 Springfield, Missouri ITF Queensland Champs Sept 8 Bundaberg, Queensland, Aus ITF PanAm Cup Sept 9-13 Quebec, Canada Tae Kuk Mu Sul TKD Gold Cup Sept 14 Sacramento, California Southern Highlands Champs Sept 14 Moss Vale, Australia US Won 1st Las Vegas Open Sept 21 Las Vegas, Nevada NC AAU Fall Classic Sept 21 Fayetteville, North Carolina Mid-American Junior Invitational Sept 28 Oxford, Ohio ITF Artic Cup Sept 28-29 Tromsoe, Norway Junior World TKD Champs Oct 1-6 Hiraklion, Crete, Greece United ITF Australian Champs Oct 4-5 Melbourne, Australia GTF USTF Tourny Oct 5 Shreveport, Louisiana ITF USTF Region 1 Champs Oct 5 Las Vegas, Nevada United ITF Australasian Oct 5-6 Auckland, New Zealand Best of the Best Oct 6 Pennsauken, New Jersey 13th Pan-Am TKD Champs Oct 9-12 Quito, Ecuador 14th Asian Games Oct 10-13 Busan, Korea 2002 Master Instructor Licensing Oct 11-12 Dallas, Texas 16th US Martial Arts Champs Oct 12 Youngstown, Ohio 29th Annual TKD Champs Oct 12 Kansas City, Kansas 2nd International Champs Oct 17-20 New Delhi, India BUTF ITF British Open Oct 19 London, England 22nd Tekno Ft. Worth Intl Oct 19-20 Ft. Worth, Texas 1st Electrolux ITF Australasian Oct 19-20 Sydney, Australia 1st Swedish Open Oct 19-20 Malmo, Sweden 14th World Military TKD Games Oct 22-25 Ft. Hood, Texas Lee's Invitational Oct 26 Canberra, Australia National Collegiate Champs Nov 1-2 Puerto Rico GTF USTF Tourny Nov 2 Harrison, Arkansas 6th World Junior ITF Champs Nov 7-11 Buenos Aires, Argentina Western Intl Champs Nov 9 Las Vegas, Nevada Garden State Nov 11 Rahway, New Jersey National Han Ma Dang Nov 16 TBD ITF Goodwill Champs Nov 16 Bridgeport, Connecticut ITF World Junior Champs Dec 2-9 Puerto Rico 19th Central American & Caribbean Dec 3-7 San Salvador, El Salvador USTF Winter Nationals Dec 6-7 Hot Springs, Arkansas 18th Boeskool Trophy Dec 14 Oldenzall, Netherlands 2003 11th Pan Arab Games TBD Algeria 8th All Africa Games TBD Abuja, Nigeria AAU National TKD Champs TBD Knoxville, Tennessee Moja Kwan Invitational March Cherokee County, Georgia 2nd Pan Am Junior March Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ITF North American Champs April Ottawa, Canada 14th European Junior TKD Champs May Athens, Greece 13th World ITF Seniors June 12-15 Warsaw, Poland 12th South Pacific Games June 28-July 12 Suva, Fiji 14th Pan American Games Aug 1-17 Santo Domingo, Dominican Rep 3rd World Military Games Aug-Sept Madrid, Spain 9th Women's World TKD Champs Sept 22-28 Garmisch, Germany 16th World TKD Champs Sept 22-28 Garmisch, Germany 22nd World University Games Sept 24-28 Taegu, Korea 22nd Southeast Asian Games Oct HoChiMinh City, Vietnam World Quals for Athens Nov TBD Olympic Games TKD Test Event Nov-Dec Athens, Greece 7th African Champs or early 2004 Accra, Ghana 2004 13th Women's European Senior TKD May 4-9 Lillehammer, Norway 15th European Senior TKD Champs May 4-9 Lillehammer, Norway 8th World University Champs June 1-3 Patra, Greece 2004 Olympic Games Aug 26-29 Athens, Greece 2005 4th East Asian Games TBD Macao, China ITF Senior World Champs TBD Uzbekistan 2006 15th Asian Games Dec 11-14 Doha, Qatar Please submit updates and corrections. Ray Terry California Taekwondo and Hapkido The_Dojang, your discussion forum for the Korean Martial Arts http://MartialArtsResource.com http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] The Last Words of Gen. Choi Hong Hi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The Last Words of Gen. Choi Hong Hi, The Legendary Founder of Taekwon-Do I am the man who has the most followers in the world. I am the happiest man who has done everything to do in my life. It is fortunate you have come. Is Mr. Chang Ung here? Mr. Rhee Ki Ha, it is good that you have come. I am glad that my son and daughters like you most. You probably might know Mr. Chang Ung well. It is time to introduce Mr. Chang Ung proudly in public. Please carry on propaganda that Mr. Chang Ung is the tallest and in the highest position in the ITF. If only I had been as tall as Mr. Chang Ung I could have had less opponents. However, as my body was so tiny that there were many opponents. Thus all alone I could not but fight against them for so long. But I have never been worn out for the justice was on my side. I have always worried about a successor to the president. However, my mind is set at ease for there is Mr. Chang Ung. Mr. Hwang Kwang Sung, your duty is very big and important as a spokesman and the Chairman of the Merger Committee. It was my wish to merge the Taekwon-Do into one. Please get on your own duty responsibly. Mr. Park Jong Soo had immigrated into Canada in 1967. Before that he educated Taekwon-Do in Europe. In 1972 I went to Canada where Mr. Park Jong Soo resided leaving my children behind without informing them. In those days Taekwon-Do was not widely spread, so that I used to say to crave the words of Taekwon-Do on my coffin. Now Taekwon-Do has developed on a large scale. I love Mr. Tom MacCallum. I have always worried if he might die before me. In case he dies first I have been thinking how to help his family. He has given the special contributions to the ITF. I have no secrets to him. Thank you very much for what you have done. I love you. Mr. Leong Wai Meng is a man of conscience indeed. He has given great contribution to educating the Taekwon-Do. As I thought his finance is in good condition I drew his name out on the stockholders list of the Chang Hon Foundation. Mr. Hwang Jin is doing well on the way of Mr. Chon Jin Sik. So I appointed him as a member of the Consultative Committee. Please enlarge the Consultative Committee into 9 members. Here I appoint Mr. Jong Jae Hun. My followers. Taekwon-Do never exists without the DPR of Korea. You should know this. Taekwon-Do must be Korean centred. Choi Jung Hwa lied me at the airport. I was again deceived. You ought to tell the public throughout the internet that I did not forgive Jung Hwa. I forgave him as a father but the Taekwondoists would never forgive him. Before Jung Hwa apologizes Taekwondoists the world over, he will never be forgiven. While I am still alive you should send the message to the internet the soonest as possible. The Taekwon-Do will exist forever. On 11th. June 2002 in Pyongyang, DPR Korea and witnessed by: Grand Master Rhee Ki Ha Grand Master Hwang Kwang Sung Grand Master Park Jong Soo Master Tom MacCallum Master Leong Wai Meng Master Hwang Jin Mr. Hwang Bong Yong Mr. Jong Jae Hun Mr. Ra Bong Man --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: 16 Jul 02 09:45:33 -0500 From: MW To: the_dojang Subject: [The_Dojang] RE>belt testing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net At our dojang, for the colored belts to test they must attend at least twenty-four classes and know the curriculum for their level. A week before their test they are also given a progress check by one of the instructors to make sure they do , in fact, know the material. If you don't pass the progress check then you don't test. I like this because letting them test when they're not ready is just setting them up for failure and there's nothing worse than to have to "flunk" a student. The 1st dahn qualifications are: you must have a minimum of 400 hours of training , know all the material , take approx. eight BB tests (and passed) , and of course have a good attitude and show proper etiquette. This will take you approx. 3-5 years depending on your training. respectfully, michael whalen aka kswnut -------------------------------------- --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:39:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sun Mu Kwan-USA To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Memorial Seminar For GM Myong Jae Nam Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net FYI: For those that are interested, the United States Hapki Hae will be conducting a memorial/seminar in honor of GM Myong Jae Nam on August 2-4 in Atlanta, Georgia. This seminar will honor the life of GM Myong (1938-1999). The schedule is as follows: Reception at Microtel Hotel: *Friday August 2, 2002 7pm-8pm Training at Headquarters: *Saturday August 3, 2002 9am-1:30pm *Sunday August 4, 2002 1:30pm-4:30pm Fees: $80.00 (non-members) $65.00 (IHF members) For further information, please contact S.R. Moreland: United States Hapki Hae 4826 Old National Hwy. College Park, GA 30337 Tel. 404.768.0507 www.unitedstateshapkihae.com Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Hwang Kee To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I have a few quick questions about Gm Kee? First does anyone know how old > he was? He had to be late 80's to early 90's I would think. I believe he was ~89. > Secondly why did he change the name of his art back to Soo Bak Do? > Did he change anything from Moo Du Kwan Tang Soo Do? My take on it is that it was primarily so that he could claim the name Soo Bahk Do for himself and the MDK. Tang Soo Do is generic term that he adopted from the Chung Do Kwan. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest