Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:54:02 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #388 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Long Island stuff; Question for Bruce Sims, re: Baltimore vs. Tulsa (Ken McDonough) 2. Summer Almost Coming To An End... (Charles Veuleman) 3. Jack of all trades (Rudy Timmerman) 4. RE: CDT / Homdo / Cross post form ED list re: McDojos (Morgan James) 5. Long Island Thoughts (Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov) 6. Electronic scoring (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 7. Student Rescue (Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov) 8. Long Island (Chris Hamilton EZ Lock) 9. cross training (Chris Hamilton EZ Lock) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 20:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken McDonough To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Long Island stuff; Question for Bruce Sims, re: Baltimore vs. Tulsa Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This poster asked this question, in part: Response: First, you have to know how to correctly say Long Island. You must pronounce it like "LOUNG EyeLand". A thick New York accent helps. Depends where in Long Island. We used to go shopping at Valley Stream Shopping Center. Long Island is a suburb of NYC and where many NYC residents moved to. Nicer than Jamaica New York, Ozone Park, New York, or Howard Beach, New York--not far from Long Island. Say hello to the Long Island Lolita and my main man Joey Buttaffuco. For Bruce Sims: Bruce I sent you an email about 2 job comparisons for the VA in Tulsa versus Baltimore. Hit me privately. Thanks, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 20:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Summer Almost Coming To An End... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Digest, With Summer coming to an end, I was just wondering what alot of schools are doing to boost their enrollment for the upcoming fall. I have placed a LARGE yellow banner outside of my School boasting a free uniform with signup, and I have placed a yellow pages ad to give some foundation exposure. What are you guys doing? I am sure everybody could use ideas. I really like to have a big group to start the fall with, that way I don't have to recruit so hard during the fall and winter, concentrate more on teaching my karate classes and learning (yeah right) in my NSUniversity Classes. Also, to break the summer boredom, what have some of you guys done with your kids classes for fun activities? The Sport Organization that we belong to (U.S.K.A.) has a tournament event called 'Chanbara' which is sport sword fighting. This works out good for training because it teaches little children to strike each other at unblocked spots. I built some mock swords out of $2 pool noodles(the real ones are sorta expensive, like 60 bucks a peice) and have had tournaments during my summer camps. (If you are interested in the specifics of this program/event let me know.) Anyway, chanbara has gone over VERY well with the students, and almost all of my students who went to Worlds competed in this event. But, do any of you have any other things you do for fun that is not 100% related to your normal programs? Yours in the Martial Arts Charlie Veuleman ===== ------------------------------------- L. Charles Veuleman Natchitoches Karate Institute 204 Rapides Drive Natchitoches, LA 71457 318-356-7727 http://www.bluewavekarate.com ------------------------------------- --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 01:48:56 -0400 From: "Rudy Timmerman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Jack of all trades Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Eric writes: > We have a student that is green belt that seem to like to cross train a > lot.... However, he often takes long breaks.... He lacks good > control of his technique and can get a little dangerous at times. Hello Eric: I have said it before, and I'll say it again. Many students who start cross training before they have a good grasp of a particular art will end up as a Jack of all trades and a Master of none. Unfortunately, these are often the very same students who will eventually want to start their own style. I am not against cross training, but I strongly suggest that students get a good grip on one art before venturing out to learn others. I would further suggest that you find an art that is compatible with the one you already study, that way you won't screw up the basic motion of either. I saw a good example of the problems cross training can cause. A good friend of mine runs what was one of the best Shotokan organizations in Canada. He was a keen and VERY successful competitor, and he even authored a wonderful book on Shotokan. Last year I saw his students perform a demo at a large event, and I was shocked to see that one could no longer tell what art they studied. His students had mixed up several arts to the point that their art was no longer the beautiful Shotokan they once had. Sad to see. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Morgan James To: 'Dojang Digest' Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:45:17 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: CDT / Homdo / Cross post form ED list re: McDojos Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Gajdostik: Besides being a TKD instructor I am also a Tactical Master Instructor in CDT. Your post about CDT seems to be very critical about it's techniques after all you did was evidently watch a demonstration without actually participate in any CDT training to experience the techniques for yourself. I do not really find myself offended with your post. Besides, like you say, enquiring minds want to know. That's why we all here on the DD correct? To learn more so that we "know". I have spoken with Mr. Tom Patire, owner and founder of CDT. He is unaware of what type of CDT demonstration you saw and has informed me to pass onto you that as a fellow professional, he will allow you to attend a CDT seminar that he teaches. As we speak, he is in San Diego teaching a seminar until Sunday, August 18. He invites you to contact him at cdt@cdt-training.com this week and welcomes the opportunity to exchange techniques with him one on one. Then, sir, you may pro and con the course after you see the way it is really taught. As far as the weapons disarms go, not once was I ever taught a technique where the gun muzzle swept me or any bystanders during exectution of the technique. Sounds like to me that there may have been improper execution of techniques by the person(s) doing the demo at the Ernie Reyes "...full-of-hotair-demonstration..." Not every TKD, Hapkido, Jujitsu, Karate, Kung Fu, or whatever demonstration goes off perfectly as we would like. CDT is no exception. So, please sir, contact Mr. Patire. Thank you. James Morgan GTKDA CDT Tactical Master Instructor www.gtkda.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:49:54 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Long Island Thoughts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Wendy: ".....nothing related to KMA's, but could anyone tell me what Long Island is like please. I am going there in in May next year (awhile off i know) and have heard that its not a very nice place and is quite a rough area, is this true? All opinions welcome!....." Just got back from Long Island. Personally I thought it was a nice place. It was quite a bit more urban than I thought as I was expecting an atmosphere more like Cape Cod or Nantuckett. I flew into MacArthur (Islip) rather than JFK in NY so I can't speak to how things compared moving out of NY onto the Island. I DO recommend that if you are flying out there that you give serious consideration to flying into Islip. The airport is about in the middle of Long Island and sits right on the main expressway that services the length of the peninsula. From what I understand JFK is constantly under construction and repair and the traffic snarls make pick-up much more difficult. Delta (hub in Cincinnati) has a smaller express service that will get you into Islip which is what I took. There are also a couple of other lines that fly in there as well. As far as being "rough" I can't say that I saw anything that suggested that. The demeanor of the folks that I met seemed to have more of that urban "edge" but its not as though the environment was like Brooklyn or Queens. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:14:25 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: "Dojang Digest" Subject: [The_Dojang] Electronic scoring Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I don't believe electronic scoring is ever the answer. It can be PART of the answer, but much more has to be done to correct scoring than just make it electric. And making it electric will change the sport. I used to love fencing, but when electronic scoring came in, it changed both the flavor and the play. Etiquette went out the window ('cause it's just a sport now, and you just have to watch the pretty lights) and play changed from a sword art to a whip art. Bah! Just voicing some old prejudices, Dakin burdickd@indiana.edu --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:18:00 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Student Rescue Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Melinda: "....."Student Rescue Programā"¢If you are interested in joining us but still have some time left on a program with another school, we will work with you to help you switch without impacting your finances. ...." How dare you give away such secrets!!! :-) Actually, issues arising from contracts are only a small part of what have brought private students to me but it does not stop me from having some real issues about how some schools have used them to ensnare their clientele. I have at least three students who actually relocated beyond the requisite distance (10 miles?) so as to be able to find grounds to break such contracts. Other students had greater issues with being required to teach classes for the teacher without compensation or adjustment to their tuition. I have about 10 students who have gone on to open classes of their own and now find that they don't have enough of an understanding of how or what to teach in order to provide an actual service to THEIR students. They come to me in the hopes of developing a sound curriculum and some current teaching model. Still others have found that their material is more sport oriented and want to bone-up on a greater number of self-defense techniques. Just about all are unanimous that they want nothing to do with organizations, personalities or contracts and I am happy to oblige them just as long as they show up and train. FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Chris Hamilton EZ Lock" To: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:43:43 -0500 Organization: EZ Lock Incorporated Subject: [The_Dojang] Long Island Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Wendy, I'm going to Long Island tommorrow for the first time. I'm sure it's like anyplace else, you can probably find trouble if you look for it. The people I have met from Long Island however, have been very friendly and good people. I will give you a report when I get back. Chris Han Mu Do <> --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Chris Hamilton EZ Lock" To: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:46:09 -0500 Organization: EZ Lock Incorporated Subject: [The_Dojang] cross training Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Everyone, Dr.Kimm has always encouraged his blackbelts to crosstrain in other arts besides Han Mu Do. He likens it to having a college degree where you have a Major (Han Mu Do), and two minors (TKD, Yudo etc.). I think that my training in Han Mu Do and Tae Kwon Do have been very complimentary to each other so far. Chris Han Mu Do <> --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest