Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 03:02:06 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #411 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Seabrook Master West post (Braeswood Martial Arts) 2. Symbol of Hapkido (RDNHJMS@aol.com) 3. belts (tim collatz) 4. Hapkido logos (Ray Terry) 5. What is the problem with videos? (Taekwon-Do) 6. Common Injury? (Brooke Thomas) 7. Team Trial Update (fwd) (Ray Terry) 8. Re: belts (Ray Terry) 9. Re: What is the problem with videos? (Ray Terry) 10. Best of the Best Karate Championships (Ray Terry) 11. Team Trials Results - Day One (fwd) (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Braeswood Martial Arts" To: Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:56:41 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Seabrook Master West post Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mike, You can go to Master West site and check his seminar page for date and contact details. www.hapkido.com I highly recommend any of Master West's seminars. I wish I could be there but I will be in the Sault for Master Timmerman's Can-AM tournament that same weekend. It is nice to see you here on the DD, I miss training with you. Kat Kelly Chief Instructor Braeswood Martial Art Center (713) 283-6000 fax: (713) 283-8400 www.braeswoodmartialart.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: RDNHJMS@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 09:59:18 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Symbol of Hapkido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Huh? I guess you mean definitive emblem. <> Why do you ask? Some kind of secret project? Anyway, I think each Hapkido organization or group or school or instructor or student or interested party can define the emblem that they use. There is no requisite standard, nor should there be for such a diverse art. Some use an eagle with a globe background, some use other symbols. Each having their own meaning. Hey, it's like Taekwondo. There must be hundreds of organizations, each with its own emblem, usually some type of fist or like the two alien figures kicking at each other in the WTF logo. To each his/her own. Use what ever you want, and that's definite. V/R, Rick Nabors --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "tim collatz" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:01:09 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] belts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What are the standard belts for Taekwondo? I thought they were white, yellow, green, blue, red, black. I know someone who says he has a brown belt in Taekwondo. Are there different color belts depending on where you go to study the art? Thanks Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido logos Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I was hoping to see what others had to say about the deinitive elmblem > of Hapkido. I am interested to find you see as being Hapkido? Check out Marc Tedeschi's book. He has a short section on logos/emblems used in HKD. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Taekwon-Do" To: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:32:18 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] What is the problem with videos? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I was interested in knowing what exactly is the problem with video testing? I have seen several well respected Masters and Grandmasters offer video testing, certification and promotions from the negative feedback one would believe that they were taking advantage of unsuspecting students. Thanks Travis (seeking to understand) --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:43:13 -0700 From: Brooke Thomas To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Common Injury? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This is a question for those of you that have been in the striking arts for some time. Last Sunday I was formally pre-testing for my blackbelt exam (our school has several 6A-1P pre-tests prior to the open-to-the-public formal show). After six hours of strenueous activity (running, all kicks, rolls, massive amounts of pushs-ups, etc.), it was time to spar our instructors. The theory here is that 'let's see what you have left after you have nothing left to give.' I understand why that is important because you never know when or how tired you may be when fighting for your life. In fighting the first instructor (24 yr old 2nd degree), I was surprised by how hard and fast he came out. He was also wearing the thinner finger-cut-out sparing gloves that look like weightlifting gloves that don't offer a lot of padding to the opponent. I took two solid over-hand rights to my left cheek-bone, the second one ended the sparing. Let me first state that I have always been one to enjoy contact...from sparing to grappling I have sought it out (through private lessons) when I thought we were doing too many forms. I am 42 yrs young, 6'5" and 230 lbs and can usually handle myself very well but hey, I was pretty tired. After the test, I thought the pain would start to subside, and it did (with a nice shiner too). The left side of my face became numb and the next day the numbness spread a little further from below my left eye to my left front lip and my left teeth. I went to see my Doctor who ordered an immediate CAT Scan where he determined I had a fractured Left Occipital Lobe with nerve damage resulting in Facial Anesthesia. He also said I may need surgery to install a plate and screws but he would make that evaluation in another two weeks to see if my eye started irregular movement. He also stated that if the nerve that desends from the Occipital Lobe down the face which feeds the left side of my face had becomed severed, it results in permenant numbness for life. My Doctor told me to take up swimming. It is now 5 days from the test and my numb face and I are writing this to the digest. First of all, have any of you taken a similar injury? How did you cope, what was the heal time, did you eventually return to training? If you did, did you wear custom head-gear from then on? How has that injury changed you? If you returned to training but opted never to spar again, how did that feel? Secondly, how common is this type injury in the studio? Have you ever seen this happen? Am I alone in the boat? Thank you in advance for your replies, Brooke Thomas Hapkido Blend --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Team Trial Update (fwd) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding from the USTU. ___________________________________________________________________ Team Trials begins today. We hope to update winners as we get them. Seeding for Saturday's Matches: Male Fin: 1. David Montalvo 2. Javier Bolivar 3. Omar Esposo 4. Nico Delgado 5. Daniel Chuang 6. Armed Forces (bye) 7. Luis Reyes Female Fin 1. Kay Poe 2. Danielle Holmquist 3. Santiago Zoraida - scratched (bye) 4. Taren Ogata 5. Jada Lilley 6. Amanda Thome 7. Rachel Marcial 8. NCTA (bye) Male Bantam 1. Peter Lopez 2. Jared Gullekson 3. Aaron Morris 4. Edwin Ruiz 5. Greg Ciocci 6. Donald Clemons 7. Simon Behrndt Female Bantam: 1. Angela Prescott 2. Taylor Stone 3. Jennifer Strutowski 4. Melody Feldman 5. Jessica Miron 6. Cyrstal Lara 7. Armed Forces (bye) 8. Kristina Brooks Male Light: 1. Steven Lopez 2. Luis Torres 3. Antony Graf - scratch 4. Jason Neville 5. Ryan Klonek 6. Gary Galloway 7. Brian Stephen Female Light: 1. Lynda Laurin 2. Sanaz Shabazi - scratch (bye) 3. Nia Abdallah 4. Cammie Homburg 5. Hailey Duke 6. Nicolette Bourne 7. Yelena Pisarenko 8. Elizabeth Mohammed Male Middle: 1. Bill Palmieri 2. Antony Graf 3. Eric Laurin 4. Jason McEuin 5. Darrell Rydholm 6. Darrell Dupra 7. Paul Nelson 8. Thomas Thompson Female Middle: 1. Sanaz Shabazi 2. Bonnie Weigand 3. Karolyn Browden 4. Carolyn Stephenson 5. Theresa Lee 6. Kyria Gallagher 7. Armed Forces (bye) 8. Christina Park Seeding for Sunday's Matches: Male Fly: 1. Tim Thackrey 2. Marcus Park 3. Chris Martinez 4. Brian Gallagher 5. Herriott Oliver 6. Faustino Allongo 7. Armed Forces (bye) Female Fly: 1.Mandy Meloon 2. Elisha Voren 3. Taylor Stone - scratch (bye) 4. Danielle Pelham 5. Andrea Park (scratch) 6. Rebecca Epting 7. Armed Forces (bye) Male Feather 1. Jason Han 2. David Barlett 3. Mark Lopez 4. Jeremy Hammonds 5. Jeremy Palacio 6. Daishun McMurray 7. Shaun Wright Female Feather: 1. Diana Lopez 2. Stephanie Beckel 3. Jaime Houston 4. Melissa Pierson 5. Anisha Gibbs 6. Veronica Valenciana 7. Armed Forces (bye) Male Welter: 1. Josh Coleman 2. Salim Oden 3. Derek Romano - scratch (bye) 4. John Drath 5. John Kim 6. Tom Lynn Jr 7. Jay Utter 8. Aaron Farrow Female Welter: 1. Simona Hradil 2. Charity McClay 3. Stephanie Mackay 4. Teri Kim 5. Anna Kim - scratch (bye) 6. Armed Forces (bye) Male Heavy: 1. Stewart Gill 2. Steven Ostrander 3. Michael Tang 4. William Smith 5. Robert Morrison 6. David DeWitt 7. Mark Tschampl Female Heavy: 1. Heidi Gilbert 2. Amy Blyth 3. Jamie Hamilton 4. Edith Pfister 5. Brenda Beardall 6. Armed Forces (bye) 7. Jamie Hamilton US Taekwondo Union One Olympic Plaza Ste 104C Colorado Springs, CO 80909 --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] belts To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > What are the standard belts for Taekwondo? I thought they were white, > yellow, green, blue, red, black. I know someone who says he has a brown > belt in Taekwondo. Are there different color belts depending on where you > go to study the art? Yep, it pretty much varys. The belts you mention (along w/brown), plus purple and orange are fairly standard. Some will also use the poom/junior belt (half red, half black) for the provisional black belt. Oh, yes, and the camo belt... I know one person that claims the Koreans used the red belt below black to get the goat of the Japanese, for whom the red belt is for high ranking Dans. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] What is the problem with videos? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 09:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I was interested in knowing what exactly is the problem with video testing? Personally I'm more concerned with video learning than I am with video testing. Others may have a problem with both, or with neither. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 18:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Best of the Best Karate Championships Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Best of the Best Korean Karate Championships Sunday, October 6, 2002 Pennsauken High School 800 Hylton Road Pennsauken, New Jersey Pre-register by Sept 14. Sanctioned by All-Star TKD Assoc & the United States Korean Karate League Hosted by Ken MacKenzie and MacKenzie's TKD and HKD Institutes For more info contact 1-856-768-KICK --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Team Trials Results - Day One (fwd) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding from the USTU... ____________________________________________________________________ Day One Of Team Trials is over: Results! Day One! Male Fin: 1) Luis Reyes (won while injured) 2) David Montalvo 3) Omar Esposo 4) Javier Bolivar Female Fin: 1) Kay Poe 2) Danielle Holmquist 3) Amanda Thome 4) Rachel Marcial Male Bantam: 1) Peter Lopez (had to beat Jared twice!) 2) Jared Gullekson 3) Greg Ciocci 4) Aaron Morris Female Bantam: 1) Taylor Stone 2) Angela Prescott 3) Jennifer Strutowski 4) Crystal Lara Male Light: 1) Steven Lopez 2) Ryan Klonek 3) Luis Torres 4) Jason Neville Female Light: 1) Elizabeth Mohammed 2) Nicolette Bourne 3) Camie Homburg 4) Nia Abdallah Male Middle: 1) Tony Graf 2) Paul Nelson 3) Darrell Rydholm 4) Eric Laurin Female Middle: 1) Sanaz Shabazi 2) Kyria Gallagher 3) Bonnie Weigand 4) Christina Park Edwin Ruiz was forced to bow out to due a broken toe, as was Brian Stephen who injured his knee. US Taekwondo Union One Olympic Plaza Ste 104C Colorado Springs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest