Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:02:12 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #419 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Moo Duk Kwan emblem (Ray Terry) 2. Re: Mr. and Private (ABurrese@aol.com) 3. Korea National Anthem (Ray Terry) 4. chinese/japanese (freddie bishop) 5. what is the difference (freddie bishop) 6. Re: Korea National Anthem (AE Bohanon) 7. (no subject) (tim collatz) 8. Re: Korea National Anthem (Ray Terry) 9. Glossary (Ray Terry) 10. training journal? (ChunjiDo@aol.com) 11. Re: resemblence to round (ChunjiDo@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Moo Duk Kwan emblem Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What other info can you add about the Moo Duk Kwan emblem? - Laurel leaves -- The two branches of laurel with fourteen laurel leaves on each side represent the fourteen states of Korea as well as the advancement of peace. Laurel leaves also represent peace, honor and victory. - The three seeds joined to the laurel leaves on each side of the emblem represent the 3,000 Li of Korea, distance/length running from north to south. Li -- traditional unit of distance in Korea. A Confucian proverb widely misquoted in the West as "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" actually says "a journey of a thousand li begins with a single step." The traditional li was approximately 1/3 mile or 500 meters. - Six seeds in total represent the world and its six major continents. - The fist in the middle is termed Chong Kwon, the fist of justice or fist of righteousness. - The Chong Kwon fist symbolizes strength, tight, rock-hard, immovable and fierce. The Laurels symbolize peace, bending, yielding and gentleness. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:46:34 -0400 From: ABurrese@aol.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Mr. and Private Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Gordon writes: Russell MacLellan Wrote: "Mr. Chang Ung's claim in recent meetings with Mr. Un Yong Kim ..." Actually, its Dr. Un Yong Kim...This is like calling General Choi "Private Choi". Actually, no. Calling someone Mister rather than Doctor is nothing like calling someone Private rather than General. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Korea National Anthem Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Korea National Anthem "Aegukga" means "The Song of Love of Country". We sing it as the national anthem, though it has yet to be designated as such. In 1896, the Dongnip Sinmun (Independence News) published various versions of words for the national anthem. It is not clear, however, what music they were sung to. Records show that a Western-style military band was formed during the time of the Dae-han Empire (1897-1910) and that "The Dae-han Empire Aegukga" was composed in 1902 and played at important national events. The original words of the Aegukga seem to have been written around 1907 to bolster loyalty to the nation and foster a spirit of independence as the country faced threats of foreign aggressions. Over the years, various leaders have revised the words many times as they evolved into what we sing today. While originally sung to the tune of the Scottish folk song, Auld Lang Syne, Ahn Eak-tay (1905-1965), a Korean composer active overseas, felt that it was inappropriate to sing the Aegukga to the tune of another country's folk song. So, he composed a new tune in 1935, which the provisional government in exile adopted. While Koreans outside the country sang the anthem to the new tune, those at home continued to use Auld Lang Syne till after Korea was liberated in 1945. Since establishing the Republic of Korea in 1948, Koreans have sung the Aegukga to the new music at all official events. It soon spread nationwide and was published in several textbooks. Now, Koreans at home and abroad recognize the Aegukga as Korea's national anthem. Since Koreans have sung the Aegukga for nearly a century, we should remember the patriotism of our ancestors whenever we sing it, whether the occasion is happy or sad. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] chinese/japanese Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In hapkido, where is the Chinese influence? I can clearly see the Japanese flavor in the throwing techniques. I have never practiced Hapkido. I practice Tae Kwon Do, WTF. Fred __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 19:16:55 -0700 (PDT) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] what is the difference Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What is the difference in empty hand techniques of the arts of Hapkido, Kuk Sool Won, Hwarang Do, TAng Soo Do, and Tae Kwon Do? I have seperated Tang Soo Do and Tae Kwon Do as two distinct methods. Fred __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "AE Bohanon" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Korea National Anthem Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:34:21 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net And the lyrics are? AmyB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Terry" To: "The_Dojang" Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: [The_Dojang] Korea National Anthem > Korea National Anthem > > "Aegukga" means "The Song of Love of Country". We sing it as the > national anthem, though it has yet to be designated as such. In 1896, > the Dongnip Sinmun (Independence News) published various versions of > words for the national anthem. It is not clear, however, what music they > were sung to. Records show that a Western-style military band was formed > during the time of the Dae-han Empire (1897-1910) and that "The Dae-han > Empire Aegukga" was composed in 1902 and played at important national events. > > The original words of the Aegukga seem to have been written around 1907 > to bolster loyalty to the nation and foster a spirit of independence as > the country faced threats of foreign aggressions. Over the years, > various leaders have revised the words many times as they evolved into > what we sing today. > > While originally sung to the tune of the Scottish folk song, Auld Lang > Syne, Ahn Eak-tay (1905-1965), a Korean composer active overseas, felt > that it was inappropriate to sing the Aegukga to the tune of another > country's folk song. So, he composed a new tune in 1935, which the > provisional government in exile adopted. While Koreans outside the > country sang the anthem to the new tune, those at home continued to use > Auld Lang Syne till after Korea was liberated in 1945. > > Since establishing the Republic of Korea in 1948, Koreans have sung the > Aegukga to the new music at all official events. It soon spread > nationwide and was published in several textbooks. Now, Koreans at home > and abroad recognize the Aegukga as Korea's national anthem. > > Since Koreans have sung the Aegukga for nearly a century, we should > remember the patriotism of our ancestors whenever we sing it, whether > the occasion is happy or sad. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "tim collatz" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 03:01:19 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] (no subject) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net My kids and I are new to Taekwondo. Great sport! Does anyone know of a good web site that lists terminology and proper pronunciation. Thanks Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Korea National Anthem To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > And the lyrics are? > AmyB Dah dahda dah dah dadadah... Or check out http://www.korea.net/learnaboutkorea/nationalsymbols/anthem.html Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Glossary Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > My kids and I are new to Taekwondo. Great sport! Does anyone know of a > good web site that lists terminology and proper pronunciation. Check out Section 7 in the KMA FAQ. Found off martialartsresource.com Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:26:28 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] training journal? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> hey pat, gimme your address and i'll send you a _Martial Arts Training Diary_ for free. :) you might find it helpful. take care, melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy http://www.cjmaa.com Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Toll Free: 1-877-847-4072 Proud Sponsor of the 2003 Annual Show Me State Open Martial Arts Tournament --__--__-- Message: 11 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:29:45 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: resemblence to round Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> i resemble both remarks: losing weight and being round. my weight loss program has been two parts tkd, ten parts toddler. once they start running....Lord help us all ;). melinda :) Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy http://www.cjmaa.com Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Toll Free: 1-877-847-4072 Proud Sponsor of the 2003 Annual Show Me State Open Martial Arts Tournament --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! 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