Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 03:02:05 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #433 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Wests Hapkido (Troy Trudeau) 2. Bruce & Freedom of Speech -- they kinda go together, don't they? (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 3. RE: Hapkido vs. Aikido (Randy Mertes) 4. Uniforms for Evangelicals (John Groff) 5. Re: RE: Interesting Dilema (jurgen lur) 6. Zen shiatsu question to Mr. Sexton..... (Randall Sexton) 7. Crazy Californians (Andrew Pratt) 8. Master Slaney (Andrew Pratt) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 05:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Trudeau To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Wests Hapkido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I often stop by,visit,train with GM West and his instructors and students, I am always welcomed in open arms, there are no politics, just good excellent training and comadery between students and Instructors, I would highly recommend anyone and everyone to go by and workout if you are in the area, you will have fun, a great workout and learn some great Hapkido, Troy Trudeau www.wtswa.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 08:06:40 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Bruce & Freedom of Speech -- they kinda go together, don't they? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bruce wrote: > because while I was out in New Jersey a while ago I had an opportunity to > peruse some Kung-Fu magazines and remember seeing a Chinese Form whose > opening moves were VERY reminiscent of the NAIFANCHI kata. Since I wasn't > able to pick-up on the magazine at the time nor do I recall the name of the > publication I was just wondering if anyone happened to see the same article > and might be able to recall what issue it was in. Someone please hop in and let us know about this one, ok? Bruce, you're torturing me here! I've seen the Chinese version of Sanchin, and it was VERY enlightening. The Chinese version is much faster, and performed with open hands, not fists. I'd love to see the Chinese version of Naihanchi or Naifanchi or whatever the original kanji were! Linda wrote: > Hi everyone, I'm very new to Karate (TKD), just got my yellow belt at age > 37, so I'm feeling a little intimated to post here. Hope no one minds... Never apologize for your rank Linda! That's one of the reasons Ray doesn't want us posting rank or titles -- it tends to chill discussion. Please join the conversation(s) -- some of my favorite techniques were taught to me by yellow belts (or no belts, for that matter!). Thanks for posting that information on ki/qi/ch'i! Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick dakinburdick@yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Randy Mertes" To: Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:31:29 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Hapkido vs. Aikido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello, I have been training in TKD and Hapkido for a little over two years and still consider myself a rookie. But the people I have come into contact with are first-class. Last spring GM Timmerman graciously put on a Hapkido seminar at my school in central MN. I have to admit that the terminology and personalities (names) are sometimes overwhelming. Can someone tell me the difference between Hapkido and Aikido? Thanks. Randy --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "John Groff" To: Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:51:33 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Uniforms for Evangelicals Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Jeff. You wrotw (Excerpt): "Perhaps somebody else's experience could help me here. Had 4 new students confront me the other day to purchase uniforms (they are all in one family). The 2 females (mother & daughter) had been wearing jean/skirt things for the past couple of evenings. They asked if they could modify their bottoms to incorporate the same design as it was a religious custom." I'm not sure how long it has to be--below the knee, or all the way to the ankle? Could the get xtra large (long) tops and tailor them to reduce bagginess? Are these folks taking instruction privately as a family, or are they in your regular classes? Jeff wrote: "The nice guy in me says, "have some mercy for their pocketbook"." That would seem to be the moral answer, unless you would be putting yourself in financial hardship to do so, or these folks have endless money and don't care about expense. You could go halfway and sell 'em at wholesale, or (if they are homebodies), ask THEM to design a uniform (per your approval and suggestions) which wouldn't deviate grossely from your average standard. After all, it is one thing to profit, and another to profit from anothers convictions...'course, most people can rationalize any action which is to their benefit.... Since the original post, How have you resolved this? Best wishes, Chaney --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:02:29 -0700 (PDT) From: jurgen lur Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Interesting Dilema To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It is nice to receive something for free, but it means much more if you have to pay for it. Many times in my Dojang I have students who are tight for money, but it means much more if they can pay for, rather then to get it as a gift. FirstPe315@aol.com wrote:To all- Perhaps somebody else's experience could help me here. Had 4 new students confront me the other day to purchase uniforms (they are all in one family). The 2 females (mother & daughter) had been wearing jean/skirt things for the past couple of evenings. They asked if they could modify their bottoms to incorporate the same design as it was a religious custom. Well, my first thought was no problem, I certainly wanted to be respectful and I didn't see any disrespect per se. Then, I started thinking about it and felt uncomfortable (maybe for no reason) and I decided to ask them to additionally purchase Hakama's which would solve both problems nicely. The only problem is my guilt. These, 4 students including uniforms and $100 worth of Hakama totals roughly $600. The business-side of me says, well that's just the way it is, can't bend over backwards for everybody. The nice guy in me says, "have some mercy for their pocketbook". Anyway, not sure what to do exactly. Anybody else had similar experiences? If you have, I would be indebted to know how you handled it. Thx, Jeff _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Randall Sexton" To: Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:15:07 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Zen shiatsu question to Mr. Sexton..... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I wonder if you might be able to help me....this isn't really a MA question, but my girlfriend has a pretty severe case of bruxism, Where exactly in FL are you? Here's a few things to try. 1. Get rid of stress! Meditation works. 2. Have her look in mirrow and open mouth as wide as possible, then bite down hard on something, your wallet, for example (that won't break her teeth) for 10-15 seconds, then relax and see how far she can open her mouth. Do this 2-3 times several times during the day and before sleep. 3. Press on Stomach 6 point. It's where your jaw muscles (masseter) bulge when you clench your back teeth. Also hold points directly in front of the ear such as GB 2, TW 21, SI 19. Just take 2 fingers and press directly in front of the ear on the face and you'll get it. They will probably be very tender on her. See if that will help some. Randall Sexton www.laughinghara.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Andrew Pratt" To: "dojang" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:43:08 +0900 Subject: [The_Dojang] Crazy Californians Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray commented: > Sunny California. But we don't allow Brits across the state line. They tend to cause too much trouble at football games... < Are you claiming then that Americans know how to *kick* a football? ...and I always thought you had trouble with the concept of a ball being round.... well, well, wonders never cease.... ;-) Andrew --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Andrew Pratt" To: "dojang" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:07:06 +0900 Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Slaney Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Wendy, You asked: > i stand corrected, it is WTF that i learn with Tony Slaney, i hope that i have not confused anyone or bought any disrespect to my master, he's a great teacher but really scary at the same time! I now know to go straight to my teacher if i have any questions as it was a green belt that reliably informed me that we did ITF. How do you know of master Slaney? Have you ever trained with him? I feel very lucky to be training under him and a little bit unworthy of it at the same time. < I suppose it must be getting on to about 15 years ago now but in my former life I learned WTF TKD with the BTCB. I went on several courses where master Slaney taught. Andrew --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest