Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 03:02:06 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #455 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. new martial arts TV show (Joe Giarratano) 2. Speed and Power (Galeos Antonis) 3. RE: Question for the list (Woodard Brian (ChW/TEF8)) 4. RE: Being Buddhist (Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov) 5. Sparring...not very good. (Stovall, Craig) 6. RE: Balance in Sparring (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 7. RE: Religion and MA (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 8. Pre-NUGA (Tolulope Oludipe) 9. Online Ordering Kukkiwon Certificate (Denis Grafen) 10. Re: Pre-NUGA (Ray Terry) 11. Re: Online Ordering Kukkiwon Certificate (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:46:45 -0400 From: Joe Giarratano To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] new martial arts TV show Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hey everyone, Hopefully this show will catch on, it's only in the pilot stages, but I hope it does well. Go to http://www.twoma.com to watch the pilot and get info. Ciao for now, Joe Giarratano Assistant Instructor - Estrada TaeKwonDo/Haidong Gumdo Academy http://www.estradatkd.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Galeos Antonis To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:16:10 +0300 Subject: [The_Dojang] Speed and Power Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I am practicing Hapkido(World Hapkido Federation) and I am at 3 Gup Since the techniques of Hapkido are very dangerous for an opponent if performed at full speed and power , we practicing these techniques at very low speed and mild power always pay attention not to hurt our opponent. How can I increase my power and speed in these techniques then ? without hurting my copracticers. In TKD they have all these protective gear and therefor can practice their techniques in full speed and power. Disclaimer This e-mail is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete the copy from your system. EFG Eurobank Ergasias S.A. is not responsible for, nor endorses, any opinion, recommendation, conclusion, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information contained in this communication. EFG Eurobank Ergasias S.A. cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended, please call the sender. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Woodard Brian (ChW/TEF8)" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Question for the list Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:36:41 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What kind of sparring does your school do? Non-contact, Lite-contact no padding, full contact (full gear I hope). Sounds like when you spar too hard you could either be going to fast/hard for your control level. Slow it down a little but still use strong kicks and punches. Maybe what you instructor means by too soft is that you are only being defensive. It is easy to be intimidated by advanced students, but it is their responsibility to have control and not "mop the room" with you. :o) If you are a new yellow belt that means you haven't been sparring very long. Sparring with control and power takes along time to develop. When you are sparring, if you feel you are totally dominating someone in your class slow down and just be defensive for about 5 seconds. That will give you a breather and let you sparring partner not feel as intimidated as you do when the more advanced students spar with you. The balance will come to you in time. Brian Woodard -----Original Message----- From: TeachingInChina@aol.com [mailto:TeachingInChina@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 10:53 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Question for the list I need some advice from the list. I am practicing TKD, and I am a yellow belt. I am not very good at sparring. What I mean is that either I spar to hard or too soft. The Master told me that I spar too hard at times, but the other night I said I was told I am too soft. I do not know the balance. I don't want to be so aggressive that the other students do not want to spar with me, but I don't want to be so soft that the advanced students try to take me down. How do I find the balance? Thanks Landa TKD-7th Gup yellow belt _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:58:45 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Being Buddhist Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Alistair: ".......Can I ask why/how you became a buddhist? Did you start martial arts first - was this how you were introduced to it, or were you a buddhist already?....." Being Buddhist is not something that you "become" much like being a Christian, a heterosexual, Democrat, or a martial artist for that matter. Rather people learn to listen to and know themselves as they grow and find that their pre-dispositions are supported more fully by one sytem rather than another. As it turns out, there never, actually, was a time that I was not a Buddhist though as a child in a Judeo-Christian culture, in a predominantly Judeo Christian country there was little or nothing to help me to identify what I believed for what it was. I know sometimes people who are asked this question point to some traumatic experience with Judeo-Christian culture and I wish I could give you some explanation along these lines. But the fact is its the system that moves me towards a better understanding of the Human condition and its relationship with God. I don't always do it well, but then I am a work in progress. Thanks for asking. Best Wishes, Bruce --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:25:13 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Sparring...not very good. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Landa wrote, <<>> Well, there are some schools of thought that are of the opinion that lower belts should not be sparring. Rather, sparring should be reserved for those that have progressed somewhat in both their technical development as well as conditioning. I would say that if you are a true yellow belt (no prior martial arts experience) then the quickest way to improve your sparring is this...forget about improving your sparring. Seriously, I remember when I was a lower belt rank (the first time). I had to struggle just to keep from falling over when throwing kicks. Is it like that for everybody? No, but I think we're all the same in that there are things in the beginning that we all have difficulty with. There's an old coaching model that was developed in the 60's (can't remember the guy's name) that I think is still valid today. Coaching is comprised of three distinct phases...introduction, isolation, and integration (the 3 I's...how neat). For example, if I bring you into the gym and show you a basic 3-punch combination (jab, cross, hook) then I am introducing you to the technique. Then we would take that technique and begin the isolation phase. We would have you shadowbox it in the mirror, work it on the focus mitts, work it on the heavy bag, begin using it in mock attacks/sparring, etc. In other words, laying the biomechanical foundation that will allow this tool to be used successfully. The final phase is integration. In other words, how do I take this isolated technique and merge it with all of my other offensive and defensive hand tools? Where does it fit in with my kicking and grappling? How does this technique merge into my overall "game"? This process of integration is accomplished primarily through drills of ever advancing difficulty, and (most importantly) sparring. So what am I trying to say? It sounds to me that you are worrying about issues related to integration when your belt rank would indicate (at least to me) that you are still at the introduction and isolation phase of the vast majority of the material that you are learning. Brings me back to the school of thought that says, "lower ranks shouldn't spar". Look at all of the stuff that you are trying to integrate in a sparring environment. Footwork alone is an art unto itself. You are using this footwork to not only avoid the attacks of your training partner, but put yourself in a position (at some point in time) to deliver your own tools to a specific target. Then you have the defensive tools of blocking, slipping, parrying, etc. Add to this the biomechanical nuances that spell the difference between a technique that hits with power, and a technique that hits with little power. If grappling is allowed then you have just increased the complexity of this situation by an exponential factor. Is the issue at hand the fact that you haven't found the "balance" between "hard and soft sparring", or the fact that you are just having the natural difficulty that one would experience with any complex and demanding physical activity? If you are sparring, then just enjoy it and take it as the learning experience that it is supposed to be. Keep in mind that you probably have a long way to go in terms of isolating and improving all of those things that you are doing while sparring. Makes sense that you are having trouble integrating them when you are still in need of isolation. PLUS, all of those things that you haven't learned yet that will help you with your sparring (introduction phase). Hope this helps. Craig "I will always be a white belt in my heart" Stovall --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:27:12 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Balance in Sparring Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Landa, At your rank, you probably don't have a good idea about "balance" in sparring. I think at your rank, the best thing you can do is depend on your instructor to tell you if you need to adjust the agressiveness and power with which you spar. Just keep adjusting as your instructor gives feedback. Also, be aware that what is right with one partner may not be with another. In other words, you should be able to go harder and more aggressively with students higher than your rank, but would tone down for people of lower rank, and for those individuals who are smaller or more timid. Good Luck! Danny Dunn <<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:14:32 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Religion and MA Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Hodder and Patrick, >From my previous posts, you know my beliefs. Master Hodder, I agree with your statement and question below. Again, knowledge is neither good nor bad, it is what you do with the knowledge that makes the difference. As with Master Richards, I do not espouse my religion in my classes and have students with many religious and a-religious beliefs. However, some Christians that are just coming in to the martial arts have concerns about things we do in the martial arts. Usually, an explanation of what we are doing and why is enough to dispel any fears. However a few even have questions about the compatibility of a warrior outlook and being a Christian. They need and deserve some explanations of how other Christians view or reconcile these things. It has also been my experience that many pastors cannot give good advice since they don't understand any more, or even as much about the martial arts, as the one asking the question to start with. Thus my earlier example of what happened with Copernicus and Galileo. Danny Dunn <<<<<<<>>>>>>>> <<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>> --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:10:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tolulope Oludipe To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Pre-NUGA Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I just returned from the eliminations stage of the Nigeria Universities Games. Date 4 the Finals i.e. the Games proper is tentatively 16th-26th of Aug. though rumour has it that it will b postponed to Dec. I got my self qualified in the Fin wt division with 2 aching feet and an runny nose. A result of a well placed dolyo chagi while yours truely was staggering from another kick- which I didn't c! (if I were Caucasian I'm sure it'd b crooked by now :-) Anyway, thank God I made it. I'd invested 2 much time in training to have failed. Few "new" rules voiced @ the meet I need to confirm: Is it true that kyon go (warnings) up to five don't count at the end of the contest except in a tie? And does head hits now score 2pts? Better yet, can someone tell me where 2 get the most CURRENT WTF Rules& Regs? The one I downloaded from www.tkd.net {without permission, sorry if illegal} now seems obsolete (an example: Fin wt is now up to 54kg not 50kg as stated). TaeKwon, Timi D. N.B wish me luck @ 1. The Games Proper and 2. My 2nd dan test next week. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:27:26 +0200 From: "Denis Grafen" To: Organization: Toi-Gye Taekwon-DO Subject: [The_Dojang] Online Ordering Kukkiwon Certificate Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello, is there a way to order online kukkiwon certificates ? Regards Denis Grafen eMail: mailto:denis@dg-tkd.de Web: http://www.dg-tkd.de --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Pre-NUGA To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Better yet, can someone tell me where 2 get the most CURRENT WTF Rules& Regs? Have you checked the WTF or the Kukkiwon or the KTA websites? They might have them posted. If you locate them, please let us know. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Online Ordering Kukkiwon Certificate To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > is there a way to order online kukkiwon certificates ? Not to my knowledge. But you might check with your NGB, (given your email addr) the Deutsche Taekwondo Union at http://www.dtu.de. 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