Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:33:06 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #507 - 14 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Women's Self Defense Course (Jye nigma) 2. Re: Surgery? (Jye nigma) 3. RE: Surgery? (John Wallace) 4. TSD Kicks (Charles Richards) 5. RE: Full-Contact Headbutts (Stovall, Craig) 6. Re: The Dojang???? (Laurie S.) 7. Re: Dojang magazine (ABurrese@aol.com) 8. Re: Surgery? (Douglas Nascimento) 9. Sparring Gear (Ryan Parks) 10. Re: Re: Surgery? (Ray Terry) 11. President Park Chung-hee (Ray Terry) 12. NK Taekwondo Team (Ray Terry) 13. I need help stretching. (Jaosn Starr) 14. weight training (SyksRep006@cs.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Women's Self Defense Course To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Ron, I think the most important thing you should teach is the psychology of self defense, meaning preparing the mind for surprise scenarios, preventing dangerous situations before the may occur and how to be street smart. Many people go to mratial arts schools and learn traditional arts and that's fine but as time moves forward, so should our martial training. I think it is ok to learn traditional martial arts, but schools need to have a segment of the time used for real applications, meaning using everything you learn in class to see how it will REALLY work. The self defense that is taught is good but one must realize that every fight/encounter is different and people aren't going to use a set stance to fight. So we need to teach people how to RECOGNIZE the mistakes in our opponent's stance/posture and exploit that and any other mistakes made by our opponent. Let's start from the top! First you must condition the womens minds so that they will not freeze up due to fear. They should be willing and able to do things they may not normally do. They should have the I have a right to live attitude on the battle field. When the mind is conditioned, it's time to work on preventing dangerous situations by using street smarts and common sense. *Try this exercise, ask someone a stranger, with a watch on what time it is, and see how they respond. Our normal behavior has us take our eyes off the person asking the question and looking at our watch, in that split second we could be attacked. So the correct response that you will need to teach them is to #1 be aware of there environment making a mental note of every available exit, and lifting the arm IN FRONT of there face so they can see both the watch and the person asking for the time. This prevents a dangerous situation from happening because you're not distracted, you still have them in your line of sight. The key in the streets when it comes to a confrontation is to get things over quickly. So teach them to defend themselves quickly and effectively, eye gouging, knee-cap displacing, flesh ripping, etc, and then most importantly drill it into their minds that once they can do something to distract, disable, etc the attacker to run to safety. There is alot more but just ask if you want to hear more. Jye --- Ron Bain wrote: Been asked to teach such a course at our > community college and > looking for any help/info. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:11:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Surgery? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Man, that just sounds wrong!!! Why do so many people want to take short cuts? Steroids instead of working out, diet pills instead of disciplined eating habits, and now cut probably the hamstring instead of stretching. I wouldn't do it, there is always a flip side to everything. Jye --- Douglas Nascimento wrote: Is true that there is a > surgery to make the legs > open totally like if you have trained for years ? I > would like to kwon how > it works if it was true. > > > Douglas > > > P.S.:Sorry if I wrote in bad English. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. > http://messenger.msn.com.br > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "John Wallace" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Surgery? Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:16:35 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good god, why on earth would you want to do that? Surely whatever gain in range of motion would be offset by the loss of stability in the hips! I'm not even sure that attaining a full split is all that desirable, in and of itself. John W. I Dan, TKD Fremont, CA -----Original Message----- From: Ray Terry [mailto:rterry@idiom.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:25 PM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Surgery? > ---------- > From: Ray Terry[SMTP:RTERRY@IDIOM.COM] > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:25:08 PM > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Surgery? > Auto forwarded by a Rule > > A friend of many told me that there's a surgery that cut something in the > legs to it opens totally. Is true that there is a surgery to make the legs > open totally like if you have trained for years ? I would like to kwon how > it works if it was true. You mean so that you can do full splits??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 10/15/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 10/15/2002 --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 04:58:02 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] TSD Kicks Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> 200+ pound guys, like me, hurt just like anyone else. A good straight kick (front, side, back) to the solar plexus works especially well on someone rushing you, (almost) regardless of their size. <> 1996 two of my pre-teens are sparring...the female is very aggressive and continues to rush in.....the very timid 13yo male at less than 100# sticks out his front leg sidekick at just the right moment..result two bruised (thank god not fractured) ribs..... Now if that had been a well timed spin back....Oh yeah spin kicks don't work, never mind... story #2 Two of our 6yo's are training now for the OS sparring. First week = punching the stew out of each others hogu, second week they finally remeber how to kick, week three the senior rank continues to dominate and controll the other 6yo......Week four the lower rank 6yo does a full power back leg front kick right on the blue dot...senior rank deposited on his butt, gets up with a new respect for lower ranks and the simple front kick. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TangSooDo P.S. of course those were TSD kicks, ne... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:20:45 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Full-Contact Headbutts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> I'd like to hear how you spar "full contact" using headbutts. How many trips to the emergency room to get stitched up have you had now? Same goes for the knees. Professional May Thai fighters don't regularly spar full contact with the knees and elbows. Do you know why? Please, this is a little much. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Laurie S." To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:11:30 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The Dojang???? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray wrote: <<<>>> Hey Ray. I'll buy it off of you (if you are willing to part with it)? And anyone else who has a (or any) copy of this mag :o) _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp --__--__-- Message: 7 From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:44:53 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Dojang magazine Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net TC Media had three magazines back around 95-96, they were Dojo on Japanese arts, Dojang on Korean arts, and Kungfu on Chinese-style arts. Then they stopped Dojo and Dojang and started World of Martial Arts, and continued with Kung Fu, but added Qigong Kungfu. World of Martial Arts has not stopped too, so the only one they continue with is Qigong Kung Fu. The Dojang had some good articles, I especially liked some of the articles by David Bannon who has a Ph.D. in Far Eastern History and lived in Korea and Japan I believe. His historical articles were very good, and the highlights of the magazine for me. You can still order some of these older mags. Go to http://www.tcmedia.com/ >From there, go to the Martial Mart or something like that and look for magazines. They have the old issues of all four magazines for sale. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Douglas Nascimento" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:00:32 -0200 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Surgery? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Yes, I meant that doing this surgery we can do full splits like a ballet dancer. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ryan Parks Subject: [The_Dojang] Sparring Gear To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I started Taekwondo pretty recently, and I'm going to start competeing in tournaments (I borrowed pads before), and I'm wondering, what brand of sparring gear should I buy? I'm thinking of buying a set of Adidas gear (head, chest, forearm, etc.) but I haven't really heard anything about the quality of their brand, or any others for that matter! I'm just looking for advice from some more seasoned tournamentiers for their recommendations. Thanks! Ryan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Surgery? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:44:41 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Yes, I meant that doing this surgery we can do full splits like a ballet > dancer. I personally have never heard of that. If it existed I would not recommend it. And this is from someone that has -never- been able to do full splits. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:30:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] President Park Chung-hee Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Those familar with the history of Hapkido may find this of interest. Ray ======================================================================== With different motives in mind, politicians mourn former President Park 2002.10.28 A memorial service for the late President Park Chung-hee was crowded Saturday with politicians, some of whom hope to win his daughter's endorsement for the Dec. 19 presidential election. Park Geun-hye, a second-term lawmaker who created her own party early this year, is one politician presidential contenders and major parties hope to win over to increase their chances of winning the presidential campaign. She is especially popular among voters in the Gyeongsang provinces, women and senior citizens. Presidential candidates Chung Mong-joon, Lee Han-dong and Chang Se-dong attended the outdoor ceremony at the National Cemetery in southern Seoul. Also on hand were Suh Chung-won, chairman of the Grand National Party (GNP); Kim Jong-pil, president of the United Liberal Democrats (ULD); and Lee Man-sup, a former National Assembly Speaker. GNP presidential nominee Lee Hoi-chang earlier had planned to attend the service, but sent Suh instead with Park's consent, party officials said. Roh Moo-hyun, presidential candidate of the Millennium Democratic Party, sent a wreath. Kwon Young-ghil, presidential nominee of the progressive Democratic Labor Party, also did not attend the ceremony. "With the presidential election close at hand, I am longing for my father more than ever - a man who regarded the people's pain as his own, and dedicated himself to making the nation prosperous and powerful," Park, 51, said in a speech as the representative of the bereaved family. "The public has a thirst for a national leader like my father," Park said. Park, a second-term lawmaker who heads the startup Korean Coalition to the Future, recently hinted she might return to the GNP, which she left eights months ago in opposition to Lee Hoi-chang. "I am open to the possibility of rejoining the GNP. I can also meet Lee, and the key point is whether he has the resolve to reform politics," Park said last week. Park's remarks spawned mixed reactions from politicians. Lee and his party immediately released a set of statements praising the economic development achieved during her father's tenure as President. Lee has also indicated that, if elected, he would give Rep. Park the post of prime minister. Analysts said Park's remarks were bad news for Chung, who tried to bring her in as the chairman of his envisioned party. Yet Chung appeared not to have given up on Park. Attending the memorial service, Chung said, "I came here to commemorate the death of my friend's father." Park and Chung went to the same elementary school. But analysts noted that it was the first time that Chung has attended the annual ceremony, though he has sent flowers to mourn her father's death. Rep. Park virtually played the role of first lady after her mother was assassinated in 1974, until her father was also killed by his intelligence chief in 1979. After 18 years of isolation from outside world, she made a dramatic return to politics, riding on a wave of nostalgia for her father during the 1997-98 financial crisis. Despite his 18-year, iron-fisted dictatorial rule, some South Korean conservatives still have a positive image of the late president. By Kim Hyung-jin, Korea Hearld staff reporter --__--__-- Message: 12 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:40:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] NK Taekwondo Team Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net NK Taekwondo Team Shows First Performance By Kim Cheong-won Korea Times staff Reporter To the cheers and applause of 3,200 South Korean spectators, North Korean taekwondo athletes held their first performance at Olympic Park in southern Seoul yesterday. Under the `Korean peninsula flag, the 21 athletes started the `Tankun tul (movement) to open the demonstration. Throughout the performance, a female North Korean announcer guided Southern spectators unfamiliar with the unique North Korean style of taekwondo. ``Let me convey the warmest greetings from your Northern brothers, North's chief delegate Hwang Bong-yong said prior to the event. He went on to say that ``Lets achieve the unification of the peninsula with the strength and wisdom of North and South Korean taekwondo athletes. Koo Cheon-seo, president of the South's Korea Taekwondo Association welcomed the Northern delegation. ``We sincerely welcome the North's taekwondo demonstration team, Koo said. ``I hope this visit will give us a chance to reaffirm the homogeneity of the Korean people. The 41-member delegation touched down at Incheon International Airport on Wednesday for a four-day visit as part of sports exchange programs between the Koreas. They are the first North Korean taekwondo athletes to visit South Korea. The demonstration is scheduled to give another performance today before returning home tomorrow. The visit is a return visit after a South Korean taekwondo team performed in the North last month. While Taekwondo originated in Korea, the two Koreas employ different scoring rules. South Korean taekwondo appoints points only on kicks, while North Korean taekwondo honors punches as well. --__--__-- Message: 13 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:42:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jaosn Starr To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] I need help stretching. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To anyone and everyone, I have been practicing Martial arts for about two years. We practice five days a week, and stretch before every class. I have become very limber in all parts of my body, except in my hips. I have seen no progress what so ever in my hips. I am no where near the splits, and when sitting down, my legs spread out to less than a 90 degree angle. If anyone knows why this is, or knows of any stretches to help me out, please, PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! Jason Starr --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site --__--__-- Message: 14 From: SyksRep006@cs.com Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:15:50 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] weight training Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net i am currently enrolled in a weight traing class at my collage and i am wondering what kind of program i should should be using to help in my tkd training which i have just recently started and i like to use programs that best benifit the activity i am currently participating in --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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