Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:49:03 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #511 - 12 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Flesh Ripping and New Style (Jye nigma) 2. Re: Meditation (Jye nigma) 3. Re: Re: Ray Terry inquiries... (Ray Terry) 4. Re: Meditation (Ray Terry) 5. Meditation (Randall Sexton) 6. James Webb Knife videos (Dunn, Danny J GARRISON) 7. women's self defense (Paul Monier) 8. Re: women's self defense (Jye nigma) 9. Howard Lee (Ray Terry) 10. Re: Women's Self Defense Course (Ron Bain) 11. Re: Re: Women's Self Defense Course (Denise Lee) 12. Re: hamstring operations (wild horse) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:48:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Flesh Ripping and New Style To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Danny, there is really nothing special about flesh ripping, just knowing the anatomy. for instance, flesh ripping may not be necessary, there are extremely sensittive parts of the body. Try this, have a really muscular person grab you in a head lock real tight, and with your free hand PINCH the skin on their inner thigh and watch what happens...lol. They will let go with quickness! The same is true with the skin on the triceps. So basically, I exploit our natural weaknesses. Flesh ripping is something that I'd suggest as a "in an emergency situation" tactic. My background is in WTF/ITF TKD,(ITF being the final 1 of the 2), Shaolin Kung Fu, snake fist boxing, boxing, wing chun, and some other arts. I also focus a good portion of my training on chi development, utilization. As far as my own system it's something I formulated for my personal use. In my system, I utilize my real life situations with, different principles, tactics, techniques, etc from other arts. What gives me a little more insight then some as far as what goes on in the street is because I used to run the streets and was a member of one of the most notorious street gangs in CT. So now I use what I know to help others avoid dangerous situations. Jye __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:04:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Meditation To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The entire purpose of meditation is to free your mind of all thoughts so you can focus on the task at hand. If you are having problems concentrating, try this. Focus on your chi/ki- Close your eyes, and try to slow your breathing. listen to every breathe, breathing in slowly (with tongue press against the roof of your mouth), and breathe out slowly. Do each (breathing in and out) to a slow count of 10, it will be hard at first but you'll get it. Now when you breath, your shoulders should not move (up and down) like in our normal breathing, but your abdomen should move (in and out). When you exhale contract your ab muscles to force the air out. Do this slowly. This will help you to free your mind from the stresses of life, and then you'll focus on proper breathing techniques until it becomes 2nd nature. Part 2 harness your chi/ki Now when you have the breathing down you would have accomplished 2 things, 1)correct deep breathing, 2)intense concentration, and a bonus would be that you have increased your sensitivity by listening to your body. Now when you do the deep breathing exercises as discribed above, start seeing in your minds eye, a great cultivation of ki around your navel. Next imagine it leaving their and branching out to each of your arms ending at your hands. Once at your hands slowly move your hands into a position were they are facing each other. Move your hands very close to each other BUT NOT TOUCHING, palms facing each other, now gently pull away from each other then move them back close together. When your ki begins moving, you'll feel the palms get warm to hot. This is a basic exercise and will take a long time to perfect, so in the meantime it will help you with your focus, because you are trying to control what you can not see, so your mind is the final frontier in guide this inner energy, if you are unable to focus the mind you wont be able to cultivate and guide your ki. Jye __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Ray Terry inquiries... To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:22:02 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > It is my understanding that Chittim returned from Korea a brown belt and > met Trias (1946). Trias offered to train Chittim in his style, Shurei-Ryu. > Chittim said no thanks, to long of a commute to Az. Any other ideas ? Trias > said go back to Korea and find the best instructor you can and bring him > back. That is how Rhee got to the states in 48. > Rhee had to live with Chittim for a year. Chittim was legally and financial > responsible for him for that year. Rhee later left for Dallas where he > trained Allan Steen and then went on to DC. Per Jhoon Rhee, he came to the US in 1957. But perhaps that is when he moved here for good. Yet I believe Rhee is now 70 years old, so in 1948 he would have been about 14...??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Meditation To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:26:48 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I have a question that you may or may not be able to answer. > Before class we are asked to meditate and clear our mind before starting > class. I am finding that it is very hard for me to do this after leaving > work, school, etc. Is there any way or do you have any suggestions on how I > can do this? Should I just concentrate on breathing and not be so concerned? There are many ways to meditate. What many find easiest is to create a mantra for yourself. I believe this is termed "Benson's technique" in the literature. Most anything will do, e.g. La-Ring. Think your mantra to youself, don't say it, think it, slowly, gently. You will drift off your mantra as your mind will wander, that is ok. When you realize you are off your mantra, go back to it. This is one of the better ways to calm the mind, assuming you have 5 or more mins to devote to the meditation. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Randall Sexton" To: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:31:52 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Meditation Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The "clearing your mind" part should start as you walk out of the workplace, school, etc.. Don't "try," just "do." Focusing on breath (counting, exhalation, etc.) works for beginning stages. You must be able to relax first. Eventually, you'll go places you didn't know existed! It's the most important part of martial art practice. >>>I have a question that you may or may not be able to answer. Before class we are asked to meditate and clear our mind before starting class. I am finding that it is very hard for me to do this after leaving work, school, etc. Is there any way or do you have any suggestions on how I can do this? Should I just concentrate on breathing and not be so concerned?>>> Randall Sexton www.laughinghara.com "When you get there, there isn't any there there." Gertrude Stein --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Dunn, Danny J GARRISON" To: "'the_dojang@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:39:37 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] James Webb Knife videos Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Is anyone familiar with the James Webb knife video series from Panther? Can anyone advise as to the quality of the material presented in the videos or to Webb's credentials? Thanks. Danny Dunn --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Paul Monier" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:15:40 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] women's self defense Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In regard's to "flesh ripping" for self defense. If the technique is effective use it, there is no street fighter rule book so to survive with minimal injury is the goal. As we know you can not prevent all rape or physical attack by violent individuals, but if you can provide police with evidence such as skin ("flesh") samples even under fingernails a judicial case of rape or molestation can now be proven with genetic evidence. Hair samples and skin/flesh can provide such genetic evidence. Monier sahbum _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:31:32 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] women's self defense To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Exactly! Also do memory drills. It is a fact that people tend to only remember clearly the description of a person who is the same race they are, so we need to use drills that teach the women/anyone to remember what they see, retain that info and regurgitate it when needed. This is absolutely one of the most important aspects of training so the police can capture the individual. Jye __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:51:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Howard Lee Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > can anyone tell me of GM Howard Lee. he is now based in Dallas, but was in > Long Island/NYC for quite a while beforehand. Howard Lee may be contacted at masterstkd@msn.com. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Ron Bain" To: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:08:45 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Women's Self Defense Course Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > From: Jye nigma > Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Women's Self Defense Course > > Hi Ron. The flesh ripping sounds a little extreme but > imagine your wife working late, walking to her car > alone in a dark parking lot getting approach by a man > or multiple men. Now imagine the man's intention is to > rape your wife....now ask yourself honestly, if you > aren't there to try to help her, would you care if she > ripped some flesh, gouged eyes, etc, to stay alive and > keep her body and life sacred? I think the logical > thing would be for you to want your wife to return > home in one piece and without anyone taking her > woman-hood from her. > > Now after thinking about this, think about your > daughter if you have one, or a little child who > someone wants to molest, take that passion you have > against such nasty acts, and formulate some techniques > that are straight to the point, no flashy kicks, no > pretty techniques, just real effective fighting. > > You may need to incorporate some ground fighting > because if a woman is taken by surprise and the > assailant is on top of the woman, the woman needs to > be able to get him off of her. > > Jye > > --- Ron Bain wrote: > > Some good psychological advice here. Totally agree > > with you. Not sure about > > the flesh ripping techniques though..... ;-) Hi again Jye, I agree with your philosophy on the "Flesh Ripping" techniques you were referring to...thought you meant the Heart Ripping variety... :-) Serious question for anyone on male instructors teaching a Women's Self Defense course. You mentioned the ground training, which is a valid point. How should a Male approach teaching these techniques to an all female class? For example the Mount position (and variations). I would assume having them practice on each other....but what about initially showing the techniques if there's no other males around? Anyone know where I'm coming from here??? Ron --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Denise Lee" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Women's Self Defense Course Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:58 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Serious question for anyone on male instructors teaching a Women's Self > Defense course. You mentioned the ground training, which is a valid point. > How should a Male approach teaching these techniques to an all female class? > For example the Mount position (and variations). I would assume having them > practice on each other....but what about initially showing the techniques if > there's no other males around? Anyone know where I'm coming from here??? Ron- I absolutely understand where you're coming from & hope my comments might be of some help. Establish TRUST at the very beginning of the class. Carry yourself with a clearly non-sexual attitude & demeanor. The students must be able to trust you, as you must be able to trust them. If you establish that your focus is on their learning the skills to defend themselves (preferably of the preventive kind!) this trust will be easier to maintain. Be "business-like" (matter-of-fact) -- no sexual innuendoes, foolishness, etc. The first techniques involving touch should be wrist grabs. Have each student grab you & you demonstrate how the release(s) work, then have them work with each other & then you grab them to ensure that they can be effective. Establishes the "matter-of-factness" of the physical contact. Move from there to hair-grabbing, bearhug-type stuff & then choking. Gradually moving into the center of a person's personal space. Staying on one's feet for a long time before getting to the vulnerability of being on the ground. By the time you get to the ground-work, people should be pretty used to touching & being touched by each other. When it's time to work on the ground, find the person in your class who's shown you the most similar attitude (trust your own instincts!) & make it clear what your intentions are (that the focus is on her being successful at getting you OFF of her) as you demonstrate the techniques. Actually, again it would even be better to show her how & let her be on top & you demonstrate the escape. then let them practice with each other, then with you. When it's you on top, be absolutely cold-steel focused on her being successful in spite of the intense threat your strength & intensity pose to her. If you plan on getting into scenario-based stuff, you need more people there than just yourself -- to diffuse the intensity of the students' relationship with you & to protect you from someone who might not be as trustworthy as you hope. OK, how do I know this? I'm a woman. I've been teaching in as gender-neutral an environment as possible (creating it) for years --both in my martial arts school & in the personal safety & clinical safety (for healthcare provider) settings. Your own personal power is the key. Stay focused on your goal -- that your students believe the skill will work, that they believe that they can make it work, that they believe they are worth saving & that the skill is learned & retained. I've confronted this situation from the opposite side (female teaching males) a wholelotta times & have been able to earn & maintain the respect of my students -- most of the time. Vigilance re: your attitude is critical. Women's self-defense is a touchy subject for a LOT of women martial artists. We'd like to think that the kind of self-defense being discussed here is just personal self defense for a particular situation. Approaching it with that attitude might help, too. Anyway, again, I hope this perspective might be of some help to you. All the best- Denise --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "wild horse" To: "dojang digest" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:33:01 -0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: hamstring operations Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Jye, Thanks for enquiring. Unfortunately my knee is still dodgy. I saw the physio for 6 months and rested it during that period as well. I was told to not do any weight-bearing exercise but I've ignored that because not doing any didn't help. As a result I'm probably making it worse but you only live once so I just ignore the pain it gives me. It doesn't tend to affect my TKD training too much luckily, the only thing that really kills it is doing lots of work in back stance and the snapping kicks (eg turning, front). Bit of a long shot, but, does anyone know how to cure dodgy knees?! Thanks Wendy. Jye wrote: Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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