Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 03:01:50 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #527 - 13 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Boards for Breaking (Travis Borneman) 2. Re: Re: workable technique (Ray Terry) 3. Re: loss of martial spirit (ChunjiDo@aol.com) 4. multiple kicking techniques (Hapkido Self Defense Center) 5. Maryland Seminar (Wayne Watkins) 6. Re: Loss of Martial Spirit (Kakita Kentei) (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20D.?=) 7. Business Research (Steve Swinford) 8. MD and IN HapKiDo Seminars (J.R. West) 9. 18 skills (Andrew Pratt) 10. Vote (Ray Terry) 11. Re: Loss of Martial Spirit (John Johnson) 12. Judo Tournament Techniques that work. (FirstPe315@aol.com) 13. short cuts to flexibility (Jeremy) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Travis Borneman" To: Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:00:19 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Boards for Breaking Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The following link has some good information about the size of boards and age groups for breaking http://www.nkmaa.ca/boards.html Travis --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: workable technique To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:54:43 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Also with regards to the techniques mentioned: > Bandal-chagi - dichotomy kick > Dwi-chagi - back kick > Naeryo-chagi - downward kick (axe) > Huryo-chagi - thrashing kick > Dollyo chagi - turning kick (roundhouse) > > The Kukki-Taekwondo Textbook does not have good illustrations of the Bandal > chagi and the Huryo chagi. I have always assumed the bandal chagi is a > 45-deg roundhouse kick (halfway between front kick and roundhouse > kick). This is support by the description given in the textbook: > "This is the medium style of the ap-chagi and the dollyo-chagi. > The fore sole or the foot back delivers a kick by making a slant > circle of movement." > > The Huryo chagi sounds like a "hook kick" or "wheel kick", kind of the > opposite of the roundhouse kick, where instead of striking with the instep, > you strike with the heel or sole of the foot. Does this sound correct? Yep, you got it. Bandal Chagi is a half-front/half-roundhouse. Dwit chagi is a back kick. Nerio chagi is an Axe kick. Hurio chagi is a spinning long kick, thrashing kick, back spinning kick (all AKAs). Dollio chagi is a roundhouse kick. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:33:23 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: loss of martial spirit Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net hi erik, i think most folks hit this plateau at some point or another. mine followed the realization that my first GM was a con artist. it took me awhile to realize that this had nothing to do with the art, my love of it, and my ability to do it. i was depressed, disillusioned, and started to put on the weight. it was a huge help to keep communicating with folks on the lists as well as making connections with other martial artists via email and in person. it kept me "in the loop", so to speak, instead of totally exiling myself from martial arts. in my situation, i had no dojang since i left the hypocritical environment. i had to train on my own for awhile when i could actually bring myself to do it. i'd say first and foremost in helping me to overcome the loss of martial spirit was continuing the communication with other martial artists. i think most understand the spot youre in and will support you while gently nudging you back into your studies. of course there are others who will support you while telling you to get your a$$ back to class :) try to remember, too, that action precedes motivation. if you wait for yourself to get motivated, it just wont occur. i hate to sound like nike, but in this case its best to just do it. another consideration might be simply to perform your poomse in your head prior to going to sleep. this was something which helped me to feel like i was at least doing something...when i could/would do nothing else. if youre still comfortably affiliated with your dojang, you might want to discuss the issue with an instructor or trusted friend there. perhaps finding a training partner from the dojang with which to schedule outside practise sessions would be helpful. that's a great one for the "just do it" department since your partner is relying on you to train with him. it involves the mentality that if you cant do it for yourself right now, at least do it for your training partner. hope those thoughts are helpful. hang in there. melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy http://www.cjmaa.com Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Toll Free: 1-877-847-4072 Proud Sponsor of the 2003 Annual Show Me State Open Martial Arts Tournament --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Hapkido Self Defense Center" To: Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:21:02 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] multiple kicking techniques Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> When I put on a taekwondo white belt in 1974 back home in Houston, we spent the first two years doing 50% jumping kicks and the rest was double and triple kicking techniques. The rest of the class was forms work and we did not get to spar until later on. Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:48:55 -0600 From: "Wayne Watkins" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Maryland Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Out of lurk mode and into news mode. I am just about recovered from the great weekend of training in Hampstead, MD at the global HapKiDo academy of Joe Borucki. All I can say is WOW. Every time I do one of these seminars with Master West I am amazed at how much he knows and we learn. We had a Blackbelt class Friday night that was terrific. Master West took one technique and showed us several different ways to apply it by varying the technique slightly and the angles slightly. Talk about an eye opener. Saturday was an all day funfest of different stuff. We had five sessions during the day and during each session there were two different classes to choose from. We did everything from basic wrist seize techniques to a blackbelt class on shortstick. We got to see a lot of old friends and made some new ones. Joe Borucki is a class guy and runs a great school. He should be very proud of the job he does and the quality of his students. Thanks to all the people who traveled form all over Maryland and the surrounding states to make it such a good seminar. Everyone around Fort Wayne, IN get ready we will be there Nov. 16. at Mr. Anthony New's school. Wayne Watkins Director Technical & Career Ed. Holmes / Ridgeland 1-601-605-3313 wwatkins@holmescc.edu --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:01:30 +1100 (EST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20D.?=" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Loss of Martial Spirit (Kakita Kentei) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Eric, Don't worry - I've been there too. I trained in Hapkido for 6 years, then I took a break for my last year at school, & then time kept on flying, & sure enough it was 6 more years before I plucked up the courage to get back there! Upon my return I quickly discovered that I was now overweight, sloppy with my techniques, & generally feeling run down after every class. BUT: I have been back for 8 months now - I've been taking it a little easy, focusing on the core of my techniques, but always trying. Just recently, other students & the instructor have started complimenting me on my improvements (this is a HUGE morale boost!), & I'm preparing to go for my 1st degree early next year (hopefully!) I mean this in all seriousness - I think the key is to "underachieve". what I mean by that is not to let yourself down by quitting - but to take your achievements in little steps. Don't "overachieve", because you won't be able to sustain that level of punishment - just take it in little steps & you will be surprised at the difference in a very short period of time. Hope that helps, Mark D. http://careers.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Careers - 1,000's of jobs waiting online for you! --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Steve Swinford" To: Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:40:21 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Business Research Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I am currently looking into starting my own school. I have very little knowledge about business. I am looking for programs, books etc. that will help me start my school the right way. I want to open in August of 2003. Does anyone have any experiences with Extraordinary Marketing by Steven Oliver or the E-Myth Mastery Program by Charles Gerber? Any advice or recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Steven Swinford --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "J.R. West" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:08:43 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] MD and IN HapKiDo Seminars Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net We just returned from our HapKiDo Seminar in the Baltimore area, and had an absolutely wonderful time. Thank God for Wayne Watkins (chief assistant to the assistant chief) who taught sessions all day Saturday, did the lions share of the driving in the Stealth Van II, and generally kept me under control. Our only helper developed some sort of illness on Friday and insists that Global HapKiDo in MD has the nicest toilets he's ever thrown up in. Wayne and I will be heading up to Ft. Wayne for a seminar on the 16th of Nov., and we look forward to seeing any DD members that happen to be in the area. Accompanying us this time will be Mr. Javad Tavassoli, Dr. Dave Collipp, and Mr. Mike Humphries.......Hope to see you there...J. R. West www.hapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Andrew Pratt" To: "dojang" Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:10:11 +0900 Subject: [The_Dojang] 18 skills Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray, You asked: > >> You may be interested in watching this demonstration of Sip P'al-ki which >> will be held on the 1st and 3rd Sundays until the end of the year. > >> www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2002/11/02/200211020035.asp >Looks interesting. Will you be checking it out? I went last time and captured most of it on camcorder. I could go again and tape the bits that I missed but probably won't. Another list member, Anthony Boyd, also recorded the early part of the show but soon ran out of memory. Andrew --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:32:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Vote Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Remember that tomorrow is election day in the US. Vote early, vote often... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "John Johnson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Loss of Martial Spirit Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:50:08 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Erik, I'll answer your questions in the order you asked. 1. Have any of you had this kind of loss of martial spirit? Too many times to tell. I'm currently in a funk now. 2. If so, how did you handle it? I knew that the best answer was to get in and do it. There's a saying I've heard about situations like these. You need to go and work out and once there you will find/hear/do what you need. However, failure to do that will just prevent you from finding you desire. 3. Have any of you wanted to just walk away because something about training dissatisfied you? Currently I've been training in Hapkido in Korea for 4 years. It is vastly different from the old syle training I had in America. One major factor is the absence of sparring. My instructor lets us fight only at the tests (once a month) and then for about about a minute. Since most people don't have more than a year of training, it difficult for me to find a good partner who can keep up with my fifteen years of fighting. Dissatisfied, oh yeah. 4. I genuinely need help with knocking off this 75 extra pounds I am lugging around. Can any of you offer me advice on how to approach this? Exercise regularly. It sounds like you are going though the same thing I did earlier this year, which is hit a level of depression that nothing seems like it will get the weight off. Go through your forms, do about 200 kicks on each leg a day, incorporate some cardio stuff and see what happens. Remember, your heart has to work hard for 20 minutes BEFORE you start using your stored energy. 5. Does anyone have a training regimen I can use to get myself back into condition, but doesn't try to do it all at once, which is an issue I am having? See the above. Maybe you should start with only 100 kicks (really not difficult at all) and then move up. After a couple weeks, start some push-ups and sit-ups, then each week after that increase the number of reps you do. Also, don't think you have to do everything at once. Take your time and enjoy the exercise. Think of it as theropy. I still haven't found a better source to elliminate my stress than kicking someone in the head or throwing them to the ground. Good luck, John A. Johnson III Dan, Taekwondo independent III Dan, Korea Hapkido Federation _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp --__--__-- Message: 12 From: FirstPe315@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:00:04 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Judo Tournament Techniques that work. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 11/3/2002 3:03:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > My favorite of these techniques are uchi mata, Harai > goshi, and Ippon seonage. > Or, in my case, a left-sided Sode Tsurikomi Goshi with a little bit of Harai Goshi worked in. But, hey, maybe someday the Kodokan will include it in the Gokyu No Waza...LOL....maybe???? Jeff --__--__-- Message: 13 From: "Jeremy" To: Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:43:08 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] short cuts to flexibility Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just curious, has anyone ever tried a stretching machine? Callner --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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