Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 03:01:51 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #531 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Breaking Wood (Rudy Timmerman) 2. my website (Sun Mu Kwan) 3. RE: Re: merger (Brian Woodard) 4. RE: Bad Day at Black Rock (TINK) 5. Loss of martial spirit (Mac) 6. Question about Chi...sort of (bredfield) 7. Native American Arts (Erik Hanson) 8. Re: loss of martial spirit (Laurie S.) 9. Re: Breaking (CALLAHAN) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:38:40 -0500 From: "Rudy Timmerman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Breaking Wood Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bernard writes: > I think we use 6x10 for kids or 8x10 / 9x12 for > adults can't remember just now. Hello Bernard. The reason for cutting down the length of the board is to make is more reasonable to break for children. To cut down the width of the board as well does not make sense. A 1x12 board is planed down to 11 1/2" wide by 3/4" thick, hence you should purchase 1x12 clear pine. This means that the board is 12" wide by whatever length you wish to purchase. The grain of the wood should run the length of the board and never across. That means you cut the board to the various lengths you need. Usually 1x12 - 12" long for adults, 1x12 - 10" long for smaller persons, 1x12 - 6 or 8" long for kids. For safety sake, the ends of the long bones can be damaged, people under age 18 whose bones are still growing should not punch at boards. It is safer to use the palm strike or hammer fist. Great care should also be given to the holding of the boards. Holding a board wrong can cause major problems in addition to failure to break (which in turn negates the benefits of accomplishment and confidence). The way the board is hit also makes a difference in the way it must be held, and proper instruction should be given to all board holders in order to avoid problems and injuries. For example: If you wish to do a front kick through the board, the grain of the wood should be vertical. If it is NOT vertical, the foot and shin will scrape along the raw edge of the board. If it IS vertical, the board pieces will open due to the impact and allow the foot to pass through. If you use two people to hold the board for a front kick, there is room for the kick between the two people. If you use one person to hold the board, you must alert the holder of the possibility that he could be hit in the follow through because he is line with the path of the kick. Since the edge of planed boards are razor sharp, the board should be held with a slight angle to minimize the chance of the ball of the foot being sliced by the edge of the board (just in case the front kick rises from the bottom). In all, breaking is an art, and those who ASK people to break should know the ins and outs of safety and mechanics of breaking. IMHO, VERY few people actually take the time to learn or teach this. Sincerely, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Sun Mu Kwan To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] my website Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I updated my website. For those that are interested checkout www.ushankido.org and let me know what you think. Thanks! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Brian Woodard" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: merger Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:12 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Why not merger the styles. Then at every belt level/rank you can have 5 or 6 forms?? Try to squeeze that in to the trusty money generating 2 month time frame!!! All kidding aside I think it would be a mistake. ITF has its own flavor and it is what a lot of people want. The same can be said for WTF. I think the only merger that needs to happen is the two factions of the ITF. Quit bickering over who should run the ITF. Why not elect a council and let the council run the ITF. If you don't like the way the council runs the ITF don't re-elect them. Oh well I'm not in the ITF so what do my opinions matter. Keep debating and it will all work out. Brian TKD HKD wannabe -----Original Message----- From: Robert Martin [mailto:kickerfour1999@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:02 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: merger Watching from the ITF sidelines it appears that the ITF/WTF merger could really happen. Now it also appears that it will only be a fraction of the ITF that would merge. Choi Jung Hwa's group (General Choi's son) will not. Nor will several other groups. The North and South Koreans are talking very strongly. The person that General Choi wanted to follow him is a member of the IOC as is, of course, Dr. Kimm. These two men have met several times. What form a merger will take is anybodies guess. Robert Martin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:04:50 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "TINK" To: "Dojang" Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Bad Day at Black Rock Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ju-jistsu was a spotlighted in every movie episode of MR. MOTO starring Peter Lorre...ju-jistsu was his forte...the movie series ran from 1937 to 1939. The One and Only [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/gif] [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/gif] --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Mac" To: Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:08:23 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Loss of martial spirit Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Dude, the "no beer" and "watch out for caffeine" alone would cause me lose my martial spirit! I'm a caffaholic during the day, and I usually have one of my home brewed beers (I have a case of Oatmeal Stout and 2 cases of Hefeweizen - thinking about brewing a porter next) in the evening. I think I'd be a thirsty nervous wreck unable (and unmotivated) to work out without my caffeine during the day and having a relaxing hand crafted brew after a good workout waiting for me when I get home..... Seriously, I've had my share of being screwed, back stabbed, and let down by some former instructors I've had - didn't stop me. I kept searching for a better instructor or peers of similar interests and attitudes. They can be hard to find, but good people and students are out there. I've finally found a great bunch of like minded terrific martial artists to associate with that keep me happy and motivated. I look forward to class with my students and seminars through my association - it keeps me sane with all the daily stress, pressure, and anxiety at work during the day along with worries of layoffs, etc. What really keeps me in the game is I like helping others and being able to make a difference in their life. If it wasn't for my students (whom I consider friends and my kids), I'd spend all my time either here at my keyboard or sitting in my extremely comfy La-Z-Boy recliner in front of the TV (with one of my beers in hand of course) :-) Y'all got me thinking.... I don't have class tonight and I'm sitting here without a beer! Time to go pour me a cold one ;-) Later, Mac --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:36:36 -0500 From: bredfield Subject: [The_Dojang] Question about Chi...sort of Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >>This sort of goes back to our chi discussion from a couple of weeks back. In short, my sister-in-law was over for dinner last night, and she starts telling me about how she had a "reconstructive healing" session with her massage therapist.>> While what you are talking about does sound like Reiki, I am reminded of another healing modality that I saw at a Tang Soo Do tournament, they came and did energy work for anyone who wanted it, and they made a shushing sound as they stroked the energy field, could this be it? I will try and find out what it was called if you really want to know or maybe you can find out exactly what your sister inlaw had done, did it have a name besides "reconstructive healing" in Reiki we don't go shhhhushh, what we do is place our hands over the different chakras and organs in the energy field , if you are actually interested you can look into it by doing a search on Reiki : ) Tang Soo Bernard --__--__-- Message: 7 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: "Erik Hanson" Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:30:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Native American Arts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Does anybody have any information about Native American Fighting Arts? Particularly Sioux or Iriquois. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Laurie S." To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:38:08 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: loss of martial spirit Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Erik wrote: <<<>>> Erik, I'm glad to hear your dad will be ok. I also had cancer, and I trained the whole time (except for the surgery I mentioned earlier). Perserverance is the key :o) One of our recent promoted Black belts (from one our other schools) was talking about "time to train" to the beginners class. He said that he has 4 kids, a wife, and a business. He still went 4 days a week with the support of his wife who also trains (she is a brown belt I think). He said that it was "trying" but his heart was in martial arts (aside from his family). Now he is an instructor on top of all the other stuff. He set a goal for himself and he reached it. He too had a weight problem. He was 350 pounds when he started. He is now 160 pounds and fit. I'm glad to hear you are returning to the dojang. Don't get discouraged. Keep plugging at it. It won't be easy, but don't give up :o) Laurie High green belt TKD (5th gup TSD) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:05:53 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: CALLAHAN Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Breaking Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Why are children being taught to break? -- I was told it is not good for their joints to break. Even if it seems harmless at the moment, there could be long term effects that may not show up until later in life. If this information is true, why subject your students to this potential health risk? What's with using 1/2" boards? -- There is certainly no challenge in that. Plus, these rectangular boards are much easier to break than a square one. When did these thinner and rectangular boards become popular? -- It seems that board breaking is being modified into a task that is too easy. I don't know, maybe I'm not seeing the entire picture --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of The_Dojang Digest