Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:17:02 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #538 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Today's Topics: 1. forms (freddie bishop) 2. Re: NA weapons (Dana Vaillancourt) 3. Veterans Day (Farral, Kim) 4. What and When to eat.... (Lasich, Mark D.) 5. KJN Hwang Kee's Texts (Cliff.Vaught@pmusa.com) 6. Vets Day books (Ray Terry) 7. Ft. Wayne HapKiDo seminar (J.R. West) 8. Gup? (MW) 9. RE: NA weapons (Kirk Lawson) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:46:12 -0800 (PST) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] forms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Who created the forms of tang soo do, was it Hwang Kee or some Okinawans? Fred __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Dana Vaillancourt" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 04:24:16 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: NA weapons Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charles. This will be quick and dirty and as such, not completely accurate! In most prehistoric contexts [prior to recorded history], wood, stone and bone tools made up the earliest indigenous tool/weapon kit. In America, the earliest context of projectile weapons appear to be worked stone tools as those used in hunting mammoth & bison (Folsom & Clovis points) c. 10,000-14, 000 BP. Later tool kits were still heavy on projectiles, but also included such things as grooved stones that were hafted, and worked stone for hatchets, etc. Europeans introduced metal trade goods and eventually, firearms. Old technologies were typically replaced, but retained in some areas for specific purposes and occasionally, relearned. This is obviously a gross over-simplification of many thousands of years of history, but practices changed over time as game, technology, and other practices did, such as the introduction of the horse. Native populations did clash with each other and I'm sure they had their own forms of Buldo Moo Sul particular to their tribes and technologies. While they could be quite brutal, things like scalping were introduced by the British and adopted for different reasons like counting coup. Hope this quick Reader's Digest version helps...it's late here!! :) Best. Dana >Dear Kirk (Mr. Lawson), > >Thank you for posting. Can you direct me to a website or ISBN that I >could research the flint tomahawk. And/or can you answer a question. >Chicken or egg....Does history show that the flint TH was an evolution >of the war hammer and later copied by european blacksmiths, or was the >flint TH copied from the euro blades often given in trading, etc...? > >Inquiring minds want to know. > >Charles Richards > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Farral, Kim" To: 'Dojang' Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:56:22 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Veterans Day Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Happy Veterans Day Shipmates and Vets... Happy Birthday Marines...Semper Fi Pil Seung! The One and Only "Tink" Kim G. Farral 5th Dan TKD ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************ --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Lasich, Mark D." To: "Dojang (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:09:32 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] What and When to eat.... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sorry for the long post, but some may benefit from this: Don Moore asked in his 'Low Carb Diet' message: >Do you have any advice as to what and when to eat to stay faithful to this way of eating? I sure felt and looked much better when I was sticking >to the low carb way of eating! My wife adopted an eating plan that is based on the theory that some foods naturally block fat, while others burn fat. Block fat in the AM, burn it in the PM! When we first read this in the "First for Women" 3/25/02 Magazine, I thought about hearing how nicotine acts as a stimulant in the morning, and a depressant in the evening, and thought why couldn't food also have similar capabilities? So, with nothing to lose (but weight), my wife decided to try this, coupled with 10-20 minutes of treadmill 4-5 times a week, and a high dose of commitment! Results: in roughly 7 months of gradual weight loss, she is now comfortably down almost 40 pounds! The "diet" does not restrict how much food to eat, but subscribes to the principle of more, smaller meals/snacks a day (like 5-7) is better than just 2-3 bigger meals. While it is not a low-carb diet, it notes: "Fat-blocking foods, which include high-fiber complex carbs, help usher fat through the digestive track"..."Fat-burning foods, which include high protein fare, produce more heat to burn more calories." Sample foods: AM Fat Blockers: Apples, Apricots, Artichokes, Asparagus, Avocado, Banana, Beans (Kidney/Lima), Beets, Breads (whole grain), Buckwheat, Chickpeas, Corn, Dried fruits: dates, figs, raisins, Green beans, Lentils, Oat bran, Oatmeal, Pancakes, Pears, Pineapple, Popcorn, Potatoes, Pretzels, Prunes, Raspberries, Rice, Waffles, Yams, Fig newtons. PM Fat Burners: Eggs, Lamb, Lean Red Meat, Peanut Butter, Pork, Skim Milk, Chicken, Turkey, Nonfat/low fat cheese, String cheese, Tofu, Nonfat Yogurt. FREE FOODS (Any time of the day/snacks/etc.)" Citrus fruits, lettuce, spinach, cucumber, watermelon, tomatoes, red and green peppers, broccoli, carrots, Coffee, tea, diet soda, water. So, Three AM Meals, Three PM Meals. Lunch? You pick, fat blocking OR fat burning! In a nutshell, Carbs in AM, Protein in PM. Noticeably lacking here? Fish. I didn't see it anywhere. BUT, since my wife doesn't really like fish, it's OK for her! Also, some foods are "reverse" of how we normally eat: Beans/Corn in the Morning???? Eggs in the Evening??? Either way, it has, and continues to work for her. She is not as strict now-a-days with what/when she eats. AND, since the summer was quite busy, the treadmill has gotten dusty. BUT she has maintained her weight exactly where she wants it now!!! Your mileage may vary, results may not be typical, and all the other disclaimers you can think of! Hope this is of help to someone! In the spirit, Mark --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Cliff.Vaught@pmusa.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:14:16 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] KJN Hwang Kee's Texts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just go out to www.soobahkdo.com and follow the links to the books. Soo Bahk!! Cliff GM Kee founded the system I study, and this inspires me. Do you have an ISBN for texts he's written? --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:12:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Vets Day books Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >From msn.com... 10 Great Books About American War Heroes Some of the most absorbing and inspiring reading deals with Americans' experiences in wartime. Whether you're looking for a detailed recounting of important historical events; a heartfelt, highly personal recollection; or just a darned exciting story, here's a collection of volumes that will make you proud to be an American--on Memorial Day, D-day, Veterans Day, or any other day. 1. Flags of Our Fathers by James Bradley James Bradley, the son of one of the marines who raised the flag at Iwo Jima, tells the story behind the most famous photograph taken during World War II. Bradley reveals the men behind the legend and the pain of their ordeal in a work that explores the meaning of heroism. 2. War Letters: Extraordinary Correspondence from American Wars edited by Andrew Carroll Editor Carroll, founder of the Legacy Project, offers an extraordinary sampling of the more than 50,000 wartime letters he has received from veterans and their loved ones across the country. Spanning the American Civil War to Somalia and the Balkans, the collection features harrowing descriptions of combat; heartfelt expressions of love; and the last letters of soldiers who never returned. 3. Faith of My Fathers by John McCain Republican senator John McCain's autobiography focuses on his unique status as the son and grandson of decorated military heroes--a circumstance he rebelled against--and recounts his own horrific Vietnam experience. Shot down over Hanoi in 1967, McCain endured years of torture in POW camps under the North Vietnamese. The details of his ordeal make edge-of-your-seat reading. 4. A Code to Keep: The True Story of America's Longest-Held Civilian POW in Vietnam by Ernest C. Brace Ernest C. Brace's memoir chronicles the author's courage as a POW in North Vietnam. A former marine, Brace flew secret supply missions to Laos as part of a CIA operation. Captured and confined to a bamboo cage, the civilian pilot nevertheless attempted to live by the military Code of Conduct, escaping and being recaptured three times. A stirring, memorable story. 5. Band of Brothers: E Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne from Normandy to Hitler's Eagle's Nest by Stephen E. Ambrose Stephen Ambrose presents the story of Easy Company, one of the toughest rifle companies in the Army during World War II, and its mission to capture Hitler's Eagle's Nest at Berchtesgaden. 6. Medal of Honor: Profiles of America's Military Heroes from the Civil War to the Present by Allen Mikaelian Mikaelian offers a stirring and patriotic look at 15 outstanding Congressional Medal of Honor winners and their amazing feats of bravery and daring. The book examines the winners' lives both before and after their awards were bestowed, and analyzes the meaning of courage. 7. Eye of the Storm by Robert Knox Sneden A Union Army private and mapmaker, Robert Knox Sneden witnessed many of the most famous battles of the Civil War. His scrapbooks and accompanying memoir, subsequently found in a Connecticut bank vault in 1994, offer firsthand accounts of the author's experiences in battle and as a prisoner at the infamous Andersonville prison camp. 8. Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War by Mark Bowden Author Mark Bowden offers an intense, up-close look at the October 1993 attempt by a U.S. Special Forces team to abduct two top lieutenants of a Somali warlord in Mogadishu, Somalia--a mission that would cost the lives of 18 American soldiers. Bowden's account, which attempts balance by offering each side's point of view, was adapted as an Academy Award-winning film. 9. Return with Honor by Scott O'Grady On June 2, 1995, U.S. Air Force captain Scott O'Grady was shot down in the skies over Bosnia. This volume recounts his amazing escape and harrowing six-day struggle for survival in a harsh landscape while evading the Bosnian Serbs who hunted him. A thrilling story of modern military adventure. 10. The Greatest Generation by Tom Brokaw In this powerful and moving tribute, NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw traces the experiences of American men and women who came of age during the Great Depression and World War II. This generation, united by common values and purpose, shaped the future of our country, and their stories of bravery and determination will inspire readers. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "J.R. West" To: "Dojang Digest" Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:41:03 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Ft. Wayne HapKiDo seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I look forward to meeting you in IN this weekend. Don't worry about a head's up, all the techniques shown will be stuff that can be absorbed by all levels of experience. I will have 4 or 5 of my assistants with me that can take extra time during any technique either aiding a neophyte, or by explaining some of the very fine angles and concepts to folks with many years of HapKiDo experience. The day will be spent in one-hour sessions covering different aspects of my art, and there will be water breaks at the end of each session to give you a chance to clear away the cobwebs. There will be a long lunch break, during which I am happy to field all questions. You will find that the HapKiDo that you will see will be very different from most, and not remotely similar to TKD, although some of the basic movements can lend themselves to TKD motion, although, admittedly, I am not a TKD person by any stretch of the imagination.....J. R. West www.hapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: 11 Nov 02 10:38:01 -0600 From: MW To: the_dojang Subject: [The_Dojang] Gup? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I study Kuk Sool Won and as far as ranking goes we only have belt colors. What exactly is a Gup? michael whalen KSWnut --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:57:00 -0500 From: Kirk Lawson Organization: Heapy Engineering To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ("THE$DOJA@SMTP {the_dojang@martialartsresource.net}") Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] NA weapons Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:14:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Charles Richards > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [The_Dojang] NA weapons > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > Dear Kirk (Mr. Lawson), > > Thank you for posting. Can you direct me to a website or ISBN that I > could research the flint tomahawk. And/or can you answer a question. > Chicken or egg....Does history show that the flint TH was an evolution > of the war hammer and later copied by european blacksmiths, or was the > flint TH copied from the euro blades often given in trading, etc...? > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > Charles Richards Apparently the use of stone Tomahawks are precolumbian. ================= from: http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0848995.html tomahawk tomahawk [from an Algonquian dialect of Virginia], hatchet generally used by Native North Americans as a hand weapon and as a missile. The earliest tomahawks were made of stone, with one edge or two edges sharpened (sometimes the stone was globe shaped). The stone was fastened to a wooden handle in various ways, such as by putting the stone into a hole through the wood, tying the stone to a handle with thongs, or splitting the handle and tying it about the stone with thongs. After the arrival of the European traders the stone implements were rapidly replaced by European-manufactured tomahawks of steel (trade tomahawks). Some tomahawks were also equipped with a pipe bowl and a hollow stem, which were used for smoking. The ceremonial tomahawk usually was richly decorated with feathers and paint. Some Native Americans had the custom of ceremonially burying a tomahawk after peace had been reached with an enemy. This custom is supposedly the origin of the colloquial phrase, Êto bury the hatchet.Ë See H. L. Peterson, American Indian Tomahawks (1965). =================== from: - http://www.geocities.com/earthwalkcreations/Hist_Tomahawk.html The term "tomahawk" is a derivation of the Algonquian words "tamahak" or "tamahakan". The earliest definitions of these words (early 1600's) applied to stone-headed implements used as tools and weapons. Subsequent references involved all manner of striking weapons; wood clubs, stone-headed axes, metal trade hatchets, etc. As the years passed a tomahawk was thought of as any Indian-owned hatchet-type instrument. That association changed somewhat as white frontiersmen (traders, trappers, explorers) came to rely on the tomahawk as standard equipment. ======================== Here are a few examples of stone tomahawks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=733189759 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=733264412 Peace favor your sword --- "In these modern times, many men are wounded for not having weapons or knowledge of their use." -Achille Marozzo, 1536 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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