Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 03:01:50 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 9 #543 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Kuk Sool Won documentary (Timothy Seitz) 2. aches and pains (freddie bishop) 3. PDX area schools (tntcombatives@attbi.com) 4. low carb (michael tomlinson) 5. Low Carb diet works for me (Charles Richards) 6. WTF TKD schools (Brian Beach) 7. Re: Tang Soo Do Hyung Origins (DD 9-541-5) (Daves MA Mail) 8. thanks for the gups (MW) 9. Master West=In Jackson, Mississippi (Ken McDonough) 10. Low Carb (Khalkee@netscape.net) 11. Sparring Drills / Combinations? (Andy Settle) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:08 -0600 From: Timothy Seitz To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Kuk Sool Won documentary Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net A big thanks to Andrew Pratt for giving us the heads up on the recent KBS documentary! If you haven't had the chance to see it yet, you can watch it on Windows Media Player off the KBS website. There is a direct link from the Kuk Sool Won web page at: http://www.kuksoolwon.or.kr The tournament was held in Gyeongju (Kyoung-Ju), not Pusan. With 1200 competitors, it was a huge success. As you may be aware, Kuk Sool sparring competition sometimes allows for take downs and hard contact. Since that was the case in Gyeonju, it explains the amount of safety gear employed. The level of competition was fierce, but always friendly and good natured. One invariably sees good sportsmanship and a spirit of community at these events. Alas, no Kuk Sool Won academy that I have ever seen actually has a swimming pool. Those shots were taken in the backyard of Master Harmon. The editing perhaps suggested that the pool was behind the dojahng, but they were at a different location entirely. 300 Kuk Sool practicioners from around the world took part in this event which was very well organized and wonderfully executed by the World Kuk Sool Association. That explains why you saw so many non-Korean judges at the tournament. In the future, we will be seeing more and more cooperation between Kuk Sool dojahngs in Korea and those around the world. Thanks again, Andrew, for bringing our attention to it. Timothy Seitz University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign > > >Message: 2 >From: "Andrew Pratt" >To: "dojang" >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:14:38 +0900 >Subject: [The_Dojang] Kuksul-won >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >This is for all the Kuksul-won practitioners on the list. > >Late last night on Korean TV, there was a documentary on Kuksul-won. The >documentary followed an American Kuksul-won club from Houston. The club was >managed by husband-and-wife team of Barry Harmon and Lee Jun-ok (please >excuse errors in the names, I have had to transcribe and guess from Hangul), >both 8th dan. The documentary focused on two mid-dans in particular, Malcolm >Dobson (3rd Dan) and David Awo (?), 2nd Dan. > >The club sent about 20 people to visit Korea. They first visited Paekdam >temple in Kangwondo for an introduction to Buddhist meditation >(interestingly one of the women in the group had earlier said that she liked >sending her children to learn Kuksul-won because it reinforced her church's >teaching on respect). Then they travelled to a couple of places for >competitions, including a major event in Pusan. > >There were various clips of patterns (empty handed and weapons) and sparing. >There wasn't too much coverage of self-defence techniques though. >Interestingly, for the sparing, the fighters wore both WTF-style hogus and >ITF-style hand and foot guards. I also noted that there were few people >watching the fights (in the stands I mean) and that quite a few round-eyes >were judging, which was a nice surprise. > >There was also one Englishman interviewed, Adrian Jackson, but it did not >say whether he was teaching in the UK or in the states. > >Oh yes, at dojang that David Awoo runs in the US was beautiful. Large, >clean, high roof, kick bag and weights, seating area, and the all-important >swimming pool at the back. I think I will revise my dojang plans accordingly >;-). > >Unfortunately, because I came across the programme while channel hopping, I >did not record the programme :-(. > >Regards, > >Andrew --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] aches and pains Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net No, I'm not whinning! I have had a really stiff neck for a week now, and I just can't shake it. Ibuprophen has been my best friend. My wife has been giving me back rubs with BenGay, which relieves the pain some but I think I need to see a chiropractor. I still plan on attending the upcoming Hapkido seminar in Fort Wayne, IN on Saturday. Master West, have you ever taught someone with limited range of motion in the neck? Thats an honest question! I can't wait to meet you in person. Should I wear my dobok, its the fold over type. I also have a 5 foot jang bong, should I bring it? Fred __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: tntcombatives@attbi.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:29:59 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] PDX area schools Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kevin, What kind of MA are you looking for? What area are you in? I know of a few good and bad...from my experience and association with them. Let me know, -- Mark Gajdostik TNT-Police Combatives Hillsboro, Oregon 503-789-1356 --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:52:03 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] low carb Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <>> again,,, Whatever!! A lot of people say it is bad, but they are wrong and mostly are trying to sell you something,, hey believe what you want,, I know better from personal experience,, Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Low Carb diet works for me Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> I was able to MAINTAIN my weight while eating anything I wanted one day a week. ( Interesting though, when I was weight training in the morning 30 minutes, three times a week I was able to lose weight and still "splurge" one or two days a week!) <> The above post motivated me to share a little. Six month before my 4th Dan exam I was 258# (6'-3"), and a size 40 waist (I hate admitting that one). At my exam I was down to 238# and loose in 38W pants. This came from a 2 hour work out 6 days a week as preparation for my exam and a low calorie diet. I also gave up caffine and that reduced my soda (sugar/carb) intake greatly. I held that weight for 18 months +/- 2# until my 2nd child was born and in 9 months returned to 252. This is the exact type of swing Dr. Atkins talks about. Two of my students started the Atkins diet and drop 20# each in the first 6-8 weeks. Which led to my wife and I trying it. During induction I ate all the meet, eggs and cheese I wanted and lost 13#. Which tells me I have a metabolism that RESISTS weight loss. After two months I was back at 230# and tight in a 36 Waist (a 22# reduction). That was my fighting weight when I won AAU Nationals. I guess I'm on what Dr. Atkins calls ongoing weight loss. If I stay focoused on low carb (not induction) I can do about 30 grams of carbs a day and drop about 1-2#/week. If I have a family eating weekend (like Thanksgiving coming up) I'll swing up as much as 5#, but loose it back in one week on induction. I have been holding around 228-230 because I now allow a one day a week splurge. I love Pizza, I can eat Dominoes thin crust and stay at the same weight. I can have a Mich. Ultra (Low Carb Beer) and not gain weight. My main splurges are taking the family out for ice cream, cheesecake, and apple pie/crisp ala mode. I also loose weight when my activity level goes up (ya think?). We've been getting ready for some Olympic Sparring at the dojang, so this morning I was 227 for the first time :-)... and I'm finding all kinds of 36 waist pants in the closet that now fit loosely :-) Looking forward to making 205-210 and a 34 waist by AAU Nationals in July. If anyone else on low carb has experince with the carbs per week budget please let me know. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan Tang Soo Do __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:58:52 -0500 From: Brian Beach To: Subject: [The_Dojang] WTF TKD schools Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Wendy, Glad you are enjoying the states, esp. the state of Maryland :). Hope you went to the inner harbor in Baltimore (Bal'mur to the locals) for some crabs and saw the aquarium. I don't have any info on TKD schools but about an hour south of Crofton is were I practice HKD in Rockville, MD feel free to come by. If not on this trip then when you return. The classes are taught by GM Jin Pal Kim. www.jinpalhapkidodc.com Brian --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Daves MA Mail" To: Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:04:07 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Tang Soo Do Hyung Origins (DD 9-541-5) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >A lot of Tang SooMasters are searching for So Rim Jang Kwon which translates to english as Shaolin Long Fist. Danny, I'm not a master, but I've been looking for examples of that form for over five years. I'd love to get a breakdown of it as I do know some fo the long fist forms and try to get a connection. Dave --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: 15 Nov 02 11:46:19 -0600 From: MW To: the_dojang Subject: [The_Dojang] thanks for the gups Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just want to say thanks to all for the quick informative replies. Just a note to sheree: I don't quite have the "mastery" down yet, at least according to Webster, but do feel I'm quite proficient. Again thanks to all at the DD. michael whalen KSWnut --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:10:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ken McDonough To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Master West=In Jackson, Mississippi Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hey Master West: I may be in Jackson next week for Labor-Management negotiations training. Will give you a shout. The McD Man __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:21:57 -0500 From: Khalkee@netscape.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Low Carb Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It's wise to pay attention to reports re: the fad of low-carbohydrate "diets". Following the natural order of our evolution, glucose is THE fuel used by ALL end-paths in physiology to produce energy. Some systems can use fats and amino acids to get glucose, but the brain needs glucose ... it cannot pull the same kinds of physio-tricks to get "new" glucose that the rest of our body's tissues pull when glucose is not available. So ... a little common sense perhaps ... especially considering the effects of increased protein consumption on the body: kidney stones and gout. Some try to counter the kidney stones by drinking extra water. I don't know if the gout can be so readily-countered. One has to ask the question: Why should I have to counter the effects of something that's supposed to be good for me? OK, so you might feel better in the short term due to modifying the intake of simple and refined starches and sugars (hint). Perhaps better would be to eliminate the crap that's not good for you and keep a good balance in the intake of complex (unrefined) carbohydrates, proteins and fats. When I studied with one of Michio Kushi's students he told me to make half of my plate rice. years later I did a detailed analysis of my food intake and discovered that it worked out about right ... combining whole grains and legumes as primary source of amino acids (protein) guided by his rough measure (half-plate) worked out perfectly in terms of meeting needs for caloric intake, amino acids and fats. Actually came up short on the fats (more seeds, avocadoes to round that out). Forget diets ... get a living plan going and see food as fuel. Take in food for what you are about to do and lifestyle habits will be easier to adjust. For example, I usually tell people "Have your largest meal(s) earlier in the day" and "Don't eat after sunset." That translates into taking in fuel and raw materials for the work ahead and not taking in fuel for the down-time of the sleep period (when all that we do is sleep and dream). Someitmes solutions are just too simple for us fancy primates to accept, 'ey? Our physiologically-determined nutritional pattern for food intake (by mass) is 60% Carbohydrates, 15% Fats/Lipids, 15% Proteins. Yeah, I know, it doesn't add up to 100%. The missing 10% is nondigestible stuff. Nobody special here, but for reference I've been extremely active for a long time and have weighed between 165 and 170 for 30 years. My wife often gets uptight when I don't take a meal after heavy workouts (no appetite). My reply: "Ever heard of wild animals that don't get to have a meal everyday? Their senses are sharper than ours and in general they're stronger than we are. We eat too often and too much!" Much of our food-related behavior is a function of social conditioning. For example, we have lunch not because we are PHYSIOLOGICALLY hungry, but because of socially-determined habit. Pseudo-hunger signals become conditioned such that the body will begin to prepare to digest a meal at the same time everyday, not because it is needed, but because of conditioning ... repeated experience. How do we escape this? Let yourself experience hunger sometimes ... real hunger. Fast for a day or two once in awhile ... 3 days and you may forget about food ... then consciously return to smaller, slower meals based on what the body really needs. Food is fuel, that's all it is. Regular fuel is carbohydrate. Fat is premium. Protein is not primarily a fuel source, but a raw materials source ... bones, skin, hair, muscle, enzymes, etc. TAke a nutrition class and get the facts. Most MDs don't know nutrition folks ... it's not a standard in medical curricula. I have a student whose personal physician told her to "stay away from bioflavonoids because [he didn't] know about that." Ai-ya!!! Oy vey!!! Good grief!!! Be well. Be well. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:34:31 +0000 From: Andy Settle To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Sparring Drills / Combinations? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Firstly - thanks to all on the advice regarding ribs, things are getting better and my diet has now more calcium. I was wondering if you could suggest some sparring drills and combinations which I could practice for a forthcoming tournament. Being new to martial arts and karate in particular I have only a limited number of moves at my 'disposal' are: o Back Fist o Snap Punch o Reverse Punch o Front Kick o Round Kick o Side Kick I would be interested to hear any suggestions. Peace. --- MAILTO: TEL: +44 (0)870 3213256 URL: http://www.journeyman.net/ FAX: +44 (0)7092 240737 WISHLIST: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/wishlist/39RV453DNHQXY/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-866-4632 FAX 719-866-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! 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