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Today's Topics:

   1. Running (Miguel)
   2. Re: Question regarding Kuk Sool Books (Kevin Janisse)
   3. running (Randall Sexton)
   4. Baked Potato (Randall Sexton)
   5. Running (Randall Sexton)
   6. RE: Kuk Sool Books (Sun Mu Kwan)
   7. Yohimbe/Ginseng/Ginko (Randall Sexton)
   8. Re:yohimbe (Beungood@aol.com)
   9. Potatoes'n'stuff (Randall Sexton)
  10. medicating our training (harmonywushu@juno.com)
  11. RE>KSW books (MW)
  12. POTATO (tg dewey)
  13. Happy Thankgiving! (Hapkido Hoshinsul Dojang)

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Message: 1
From: "Miguel" <miguel@garciatkd.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:54:45 -0500
Subject: [The_Dojang] Running
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

<Now let me get this straight, IF I run too much it will actually be counter
productive to losing weight??  I guess I missed that article in the National
Enquirer.>

I'm not up on the prior dialogue on this thread but, what has helped me
understand the most about this topic is from a book by Covert Bailey -
http://www.crow-canyon.com/fitness/fitness_monthly_article.htm

snip: (Whether you're sitting or running, your muscles burn two kinds of fuel
at the same time - sugar and fat.  70% of the energy or calories that muscles
need comes from fat, while only 30% comes from sugar.  These percentages are
reversed when you are exercising very intensely, but that kind of high level
doesn't last very long so overall fat remains the predominant fuel. .....
.......Think of the enzymes that burn fat molecules as a labor union of highly
specialized workers.  This union tens to go on strike a lot, especially when
there is not enough oxygen.  Your muscles may be begging for more energy
during a fast run, but the fat-burning union, hating such stressful low-oxygen
work, goes out on strike.  The sugar-burning union just keeps humming along.
The secret of aerobic exercise is to make the fat-burning union work as hard
as possible without going on strike.  If you can find just the right level at
which the enzymes work hard bu happily, and if you can sustain that level for
a long period, THE UNION WILL HIRE MORE WORKERS.  Aerobic exercise, done just
right, stimulates the growth of fat burning enzymes so that you can burn more
fat as you exercise at higher levels of intensity. Covert Bailey SMART
EXERCISE (Burning Fat,  Getting Fit)

In short, running slow and long = lose weight; running hard and fast = maybe
not.
TKD as with most MAs is anaerobic and so can be running.

Miguel
http://garciatkd.com

[if you can't beat your computer at chess. try kickboxing]

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Message: 2
From: "Kevin Janisse" <kevin_janisse@hotmail.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:33:34 -0800
Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Question regarding Kuk Sool Books
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Dear Mr. Kwan,

I believe the red textbook was the first Kuk Sool Won literature published.
As you most likely have already noticed, there are many differences between
the latest Vol. I by GM Suh, In Hyuck and the Red book by GM Seo, In Sun.  GM
Suh produced the three volume set to get better quality control over the WKSA
since there was the Text by his brother and also one by Dr. Kimm.  Anyway, the
differences are too many to list and if you plan on joining the WKSA the red
text will be a good reference and the black book will be your guide.

Sincerely,
Kevin M. Janisse
NKMAA

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Message: 3
From: "Randall Sexton" <txhapkido@thegateway.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 00:53:07 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] running
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Actually, I was just wondering how much you run since that tends to make you
slim! I was just thinking moderation in all things that's all. I used to run
cross country myself; now I know better.

>Now let me get this straight, IF I run too much it will actually be counter
productive to losing weight??  I guess I missed that article in the National
Enquirer.
My running regime as of now is,,,, 4 miles on mon, tues, wed, and thurs,,
take off fri, run 12 miles either on sat or sun,,, and take the other day
off,, lift weights on tues, wed, fri, sat, and sunday, Hapkido on Mon. and
Thurs,, eat lots of meat and eggs, and salads,, very little fruit and hardly
no sugar or starches at all,,, I eat about an hour or more after I lift
weights,, it is always heavy protein and vegetables, and I don't really
gauge when I eat after running but it is usually quite a while afterward, I
run before I lift weights, the one thing I do is take plenty of vitaminns
and right after I lift weights I take a good dose of Yohimbe bark and
ginseng, I buy both of those herbs fresh and grind them myself, that will
really rev you up!!!

What do you guys think,, am I gonna die soon doing all of this or should I
just read another book and ponder the metabolic and physiological
ramifications of the centrifical futility of all of the mental masturbation
associated with the plethora of literary experts who have never ran further
than the proverbial ice cream truck or had to pace themselves heading for
the metaphoric elevator door closing on their lives as it heads up to the
5th floor where all the health and fitness books are in the library, I don't
know maybe I'll just drop back and punt?  I like the Zen idea of when you
think about something too much a priest slaps you across the face and tells
you to live in the NOW... IMHO doing is always better than theorizing...
                                  Michael Tomlinson>

Randall Sexton
www.LaughingHara.com

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Message: 4
From: "Randall Sexton" <txhapkido@thegateway.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 00:56:19 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] Baked Potato
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Are you from Idahoe?

<People... this is killing me... It's POTATO!!!  Not POTATOE....>

Randall Sexton
www.LaughingHara.com

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Message: 5
From: "Randall Sexton" <txhapkido@thegateway.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 01:02:16 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] Running
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Sorry, what I meant to say was how much weight loss is due to running vs your
diet plan.

 <and the fact that running may negate the effects of the diet>

Randall Sexton
www.LaughingHara.com

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 23:07:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Sun Mu Kwan <hankido2000@yahoo.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Kuk Sool Books
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

I bought my boom from Abebooks. I costed me only $50 and it was published in 1985. Its a little different than the one published in 1988. 

I seen them go for $100 plus on ebay every once and a while. I like it better than the black KSW book published by GM Suh.



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Message: 7
From: "Randall Sexton" <txhapkido@thegateway.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 01:38:46 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] Yohimbe/Ginseng/Ginko
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Of course, I have no frigging idea what ginseng and gingko are supposed to do
for me

Make sure you take plenty then!! Lot's on these herbs. To keep it short,
Ginseng used for centuries as antidepressant, aphrodisiac, soothe irritated
internal tissues and organs, diuretic, sedative. Improves concentraion,
healing, stamina, stress resistance, vigilance, work efficiency.

Ginko used for peripheral vasclar insufficiency and cerebrovascular disease,
increases mental alertness and overall brain function.


So, what's the scoop on Yohimbe?

Yohimbe has no FDA-sanctioned use in humans and has been on the USDA's unsafe
herb list since March 1977. It has been used as an aphrodisiac for a long time
in Africa (hey maybe those guys need it)and also as a hallucinogenic. Also
used for orthostatic hypotension and Clonidine (blood pressure med) overdose.
Most studies have been on male impotence.  If you use it, monitor for CNS and
cardiac effects and avoid caffeine. Some psych patients taking average daily
dose of 12.5 mg had manic reactions.


Randall Sexton
www.LaughingHara.com

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Message: 8
From: Beungood@aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:40:49 EST
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Re:yohimbe
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

In a message dated 11/26/02 9:43:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes:

> Yohimbe comes from a tree in west africa and has been used for many 
> centuries to boost the "performance stamina" of newly wed males on their 
> honeymoon nights,, anyway I read this article in an herb book once about it 
> 
> many years ago, I guess you have to take massive amounts for that to 
> happen,, let me vehemently state,,, I DON'T USE IT FOR THAT!!
> 
> 

Yeah sure we believe you Mike................................LOL

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Message: 9
From: "Randall Sexton" <txhapkido@thegateway.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 01:45:46 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] Potatoes'n'stuff
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

< What this means for the potato is that we will begin the breakdown of its
starches by chewing thoroughly to cause more saliva to flow and allow its
enzymes which digest starches to mix with the liquid potato.>

One of my teachrs said to chew each bite 40 times. It also takes your brain, I
think 20 minutes to register a full stomach so not gulping helps also.


<On Asian Nutrition.  Belief and feelings can make a difference in how we
digest a meal, but belief and feelings cannot change physiology.>

Oh, man you are so wrong...there is so much literature which suggests a
different opinion. Beliefs and feelings are one of the main reasons for many
diseases. All you psychologists feel free to take over here.


Randall Sexton
www.LaughingHara.com

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:09:15 GMT
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
From: harmonywushu@juno.com
Subject: [The_Dojang] medicating our training
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Hey Folks! 
      
While we're on the topic of herbal supplements and stuff, I wanted to point out that what a LOT of martial artists are doing these days is medicating their training. Instead of taking a disciplined approach (E.g. making yourself concentrate, train hard, get good diet/sleep and water etc), often we'll pop a pill or supplement. (Creatine will help me recover faster, so I can make it back to the gym tommorrow!). Eventually we lose our sense of inner balance. We simply become unable to make our selves "concentrate" or whatever without the supplements. I know that my teachers advocated being self reliant, instead of relying on things/or people. 

Just my two cents
Peter, a newcomer to the Dojang!





Peter Cooke
Head Instructor,
Harmony Wushu Academy
(541) 754 2372
harmonywushu@juno.com


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Message: 11
Date: 27 Nov 02 09:36:22 -0600
From: MW <whalen@natgraph.com>
To: the_dojang <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Subject: [The_Dojang] RE>KSW books
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

I have the first three volumes but know nothing about a "red volume". I do
have my feelers out to a couple of knowledgeable KSW personnel and will
respond if I find anything out. However, I only use these books for basic
reference as they sometimes are quite confusing (especially on hyungs) and I
don't think are very practical for actual learning.

michael whalen   KSWnut

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:58:31 -0800 (PST)
From: tg dewey <tgdewey@yahoo.com>
To: The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] POTATO
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

LOL... No I'm not from Idaho... Misery, I mean Missouri.

Happy (and safe) Thanksgiving to all.

 

 



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Message: 13
From: "Hapkido Hoshinsul Dojang" <hkd@fuse.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:57:36 -0500
Subject: [The_Dojang] Happy Thankgiving!
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Everyone here in the USA - have a happy and safe thanksgiving!!! Jere R.
Hilland www.hapkidoselfdefense.com


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